i have just received a mail that Curse media is going to be fusing with Fandom. In the mail it states you need to give consent to the migration of your account details to this new platform or either you won’t be able to acces any curse based accounts (d&d beyond being one of them.) I click the link to consent and all I get is a message that says: Opt In unsuccessful
what am I doing wrong? I don’t want to lose all my stuff I bough on D&D Beyond.
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i have just received a mail that Curse media is going to be fusing with Fandom. In the mail it states you need to give consent to the migration of your account details to this new platform or either you won’t be able to acces any curse based accounts (d&d beyond being one of them.) I click the link to consent and all I get is a message that says: Opt In unsuccessful
what am I doing wrong? I don’t want to lose all my stuff I bough on D&D Beyond.
Apologies for the inconvenience, but it looks like the first round of email messages went out with an error in the opt-in link.
The team is working to correct the issue and you should receive a new email soon.
yea i`ve got the email but for now i will ignore it. i`m not eager to share my personal info with unknown company. what next - Curse and Fandom will be bought by yet another company and share info again and again and so one? it`s to shady. and what if i will not consent? i`ll lose all that i bought?
yea i`ve got the email but for now i will ignore it. i`m not eager to share my personal info with unknown company. what next - Curse and Fandom will be bought by yet another company and share info again and again and so one? it`s to shady. and what if i will not consent? i`ll lose all that i bought?
If you choose to delete your account, we will not have any information about you or your purchases (since we would be required to delete everything).
If you keep your account, nothing will change and you can continue to use D&D Beyond as you do today.
I had no idea what it even meant at the time so I too clicked the "x". Seemed too much like a virus pop up wanting you to click through for it. Maybe next time you do the mass email and then start with the banners and popups.
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I just want to tell everyone "happy gaming" and actually mean it. Whatever your game is, just have fun with it, it is after all, just a game.
yea i`ve got the email but for now i will ignore it. i`m not eager to share my personal info with unknown company. what next - Curse and Fandom will be bought by yet another company and share info again and again and so one? it`s to shady. and what if i will not consent? i`ll lose all that i bought?
If you choose to delete your account, we will not have any information about you or your purchases (since we would be required to delete everything).
If you keep your account, nothing will change and you can continue to use D&D Beyond as you do today.
i dont want to delete my account but i also dont want to share my personal info with some shade company. i just want to use what i bought and buy some new stuff in the future without sharing info.
An issue here is for people saying you dont want to share it with Fandom is once the merger is completed curse and fandom will have the same info as they will be one company, if my understanding is correct.
Effectively there is no way for fandom not to get your data unless you delete your account. This is not due to curse giving your data to a third party it is the third party is becoming one company with the first party and they are checking if you are ok with knowing that this party will access you data as they are now one with curse.
Basically we cannot talk about fandom and curse as two seperate companies for this discusssion because they are going to be a single company. Which means you continue treating them as curse or decide to treat them as fandom.
Feel free someone more legal minded to correct this if it is incorrect.
My understanding is, with Curse & Fandom joining forces, they now represent a new legal entity and data protection regulations demand that authorisation be given to this new legal entity to retain your data.
Adam has already stated that the current D&D Beyond team, led by Adam, will remain entirely in charge of the D&D Beyond product.
Guys, hate to say it... but mergers and acquisitions work exactly like this. Marriot and Starwood (hospitality industry) merged a while back. What do you think they did? Combined all their customer data, their sleeping preferences, number of nights guests would stay, high roller guests, credit card info, security questions stored in systems, etc. That was worth over $13 billion dollars.
In the digital hosted world, you really don't own anything. The digital books we've bought, they exist so long as Curse exists. Not a moment longer, we really have no rights, just paid for privileges which are subject to change by Curse. Our subscriptions are simply assets on their balance books. Balance books now owned by Fandom.
I like the next person value my privacy. Which is why some years back I deleted my Facebook account and have never gone back. That was the only choice I could make. Anything else would leave my data in the hands of Facebook. We have no ownership of our personal data in the digital world. There really aren't any laws or regulations in the US that allow for it in a meaningful way. EU has GDPR (General Data Protection Regulations). Now interestingly, EU citizens may have a case: https://www.personneltoday.com/hr/how-does-the-gdpr-apply-to-businesses-outside-the-eu/
This would be because of Curse's work (as evidence by Dev updates) talking about international markets, translating to other languages, would qualify as "organisation “envisages” offering goods or services to data subjects in the EU". So you EU citizens could report Curse to your regulators. However, by the same reasoning, Fandom is likely also subject to GDPR before they bought Curse.
If you don't like this acquisition, then speak with your wallet. Shut down your accounts, forget you bought anything and walk away as you are NOT owed anything. Curse as far I can tell has not one customer liability on its books (not even pre-order promises right now). As for me, I want to play D&D and prefer the convenience of online books, searching, and character management offered by Curse/Fandom. As long as the quality continues to improve and the offering expand, I'm staying. If not, like I said, take my wallet and walk away.
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You realise they are not adding ads right? And the campaign mangement tools we have seen being developed (2 dev updates back we got shown wireframes for the encounter buildiers). Nor are they dealing away information to third parties fandom is merging hence why they get the data its not going anywhere else, there are no third parties involved.
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Loex - A Lizardfolk Lvl 4/6/4 Hexblade Profane Blood Hunter/ Battlesmith Artificer/ Cleric of the Forge Arborea - A Warforged Lvl 1 Hexblade Warlock
I genuinely hoped that D&D Beyond would have the time to develop into an all-inclusive DM tool platform before becoming another money-grabbing, advertisement intensive, 3rd-party customer information dealer. I'm just going to follow Envaris' advice & walk away. I enjoyed having the rules on-hand in an online form, but I have the books & I can look up things as I go. Sad to see it go this way so quickly, they haven't even delivered on decent DM tools for campaign design.
If you have already invested in the content here, why walk away before seeing what actually comes next?
If you cancel your account now or in 6 months they would be still bound to delete all the information they have on you, so why not wait and see if the change can actually be a positive one instead? As things stand now none of us can know for sure what is going to happen, none of us know the extent or details of the deal Fandom has done with Curse, none of us can know if it will indeed become a "money-grabbing, advertisement intensive, 3rd-party customer information dealer". If anything, the previous structure had even more parties involved (Curse -> Twitch -> Amazon) as far as I understand it.
Not trying to tell you what to do with your time/personal info/life, but it seems to be that you are kind of running to conclusions before actually having any proof of your fears being right.
(All of the above is just my opinion, do with it what you will)
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i have just received a mail that Curse media is going to be fusing with Fandom. In the mail it states you need to give consent to the migration of your account details to this new platform or either you won’t be able to acces any curse based accounts (d&d beyond being one of them.) I click the link to consent and all I get is a message that says: Opt In unsuccessful
what am I doing wrong? I don’t want to lose all my stuff I bough on D&D Beyond.
Apologies for the inconvenience, but it looks like the first round of email messages went out with an error in the opt-in link.
The team is working to correct the issue and you should receive a new email soon.
Thanks!
UPDATE: In the meantime, feel free to browse the full details that here: https://curseweb.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360013682854-Curse-Media-and-Fandom-are-joining-forces-
I have yet to see this email. So what is this Fandom and why the merge?
I just want to tell everyone "happy gaming" and actually mean it. Whatever your game is, just have fun with it, it is after all, just a game.
Adam covered it in the most recent dev update:
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/348564609
There's also this thread on reddit where Adam answered questions.
https://www.reddit.com/r/dndnext/comments/a5p5e0/fandom_formerly_known_as_wikia_just_bought_curse/
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perfect! Thank you for the fast response!
yea i`ve got the email but for now i will ignore it. i`m not eager to share my personal info with unknown company. what next - Curse and Fandom will be bought by yet another company and share info again and again and so one? it`s to shady.
and what if i will not consent? i`ll lose all that i bought?
ugh.... My subscription is up at the first of the year, decisions decisions....
I just want to tell everyone "happy gaming" and actually mean it. Whatever your game is, just have fun with it, it is after all, just a game.
Forcing me to click "Awesome" is NOT awesome. I know it doesn't mean anything, but still.
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If you choose to delete your account, we will not have any information about you or your purchases (since we would be required to delete everything).
If you keep your account, nothing will change and you can continue to use D&D Beyond as you do today.
I purposely clicked the "x" in the corner of the pop-up instead of "Awesome!"
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I had no idea what it even meant at the time so I too clicked the "x". Seemed too much like a virus pop up wanting you to click through for it. Maybe next time you do the mass email and then start with the banners and popups.
I just want to tell everyone "happy gaming" and actually mean it. Whatever your game is, just have fun with it, it is after all, just a game.
i dont want to delete my account but i also dont want to share my personal info with some shade company. i just want to use what i bought and buy some new stuff in the future without sharing info.
An issue here is for people saying you dont want to share it with Fandom is once the merger is completed curse and fandom will have the same info as they will be one company, if my understanding is correct.
Effectively there is no way for fandom not to get your data unless you delete your account. This is not due to curse giving your data to a third party it is the third party is becoming one company with the first party and they are checking if you are ok with knowing that this party will access you data as they are now one with curse.
Basically we cannot talk about fandom and curse as two seperate companies for this discusssion because they are going to be a single company. Which means you continue treating them as curse or decide to treat them as fandom.
Feel free someone more legal minded to correct this if it is incorrect.
Loex - A Lizardfolk Lvl 4/6/4 Hexblade Profane Blood Hunter/ Battlesmith Artificer/ Cleric of the Forge
Arborea - A Warforged Lvl 1 Hexblade Warlock
DM - "Malign Intelligence"
Pretty much.
My understanding is, with Curse & Fandom joining forces, they now represent a new legal entity and data protection regulations demand that authorisation be given to this new legal entity to retain your data.
Adam has already stated that the current D&D Beyond team, led by Adam, will remain entirely in charge of the D&D Beyond product.
Pun-loving nerd | She/Her/Hers | Profile art by Becca Golins
If you need help with homebrew, please post on the homebrew forums, where multiple staff and moderators can read your post and help you!
"We got this, no problem! I'll take the twenty on the left - you guys handle the one on the right!"🔊
Guys, hate to say it... but mergers and acquisitions work exactly like this. Marriot and Starwood (hospitality industry) merged a while back. What do you think they did? Combined all their customer data, their sleeping preferences, number of nights guests would stay, high roller guests, credit card info, security questions stored in systems, etc. That was worth over $13 billion dollars.
In the digital hosted world, you really don't own anything. The digital books we've bought, they exist so long as Curse exists. Not a moment longer, we really have no rights, just paid for privileges which are subject to change by Curse. Our subscriptions are simply assets on their balance books. Balance books now owned by Fandom.
I like the next person value my privacy. Which is why some years back I deleted my Facebook account and have never gone back. That was the only choice I could make. Anything else would leave my data in the hands of Facebook. We have no ownership of our personal data in the digital world. There really aren't any laws or regulations in the US that allow for it in a meaningful way. EU has GDPR (General Data Protection Regulations). Now interestingly, EU citizens may have a case: https://www.personneltoday.com/hr/how-does-the-gdpr-apply-to-businesses-outside-the-eu/
This would be because of Curse's work (as evidence by Dev updates) talking about international markets, translating to other languages, would qualify as "organisation “envisages” offering goods or services to data subjects in the EU". So you EU citizens could report Curse to your regulators. However, by the same reasoning, Fandom is likely also subject to GDPR before they bought Curse.
If you don't like this acquisition, then speak with your wallet. Shut down your accounts, forget you bought anything and walk away as you are NOT owed anything. Curse as far I can tell has not one customer liability on its books (not even pre-order promises right now). As for me, I want to play D&D and prefer the convenience of online books, searching, and character management offered by Curse/Fandom. As long as the quality continues to improve and the offering expand, I'm staying. If not, like I said, take my wallet and walk away.
Want to see Virtual Table Top like no other before it built within DnDBeyond.com? Upvote the feature request. It's 2nd highest voted so far:
https://dndbeyond.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/115008597088-Virtual-Tabletop-Gameboard
NOTE: You will need to setup a zendesk account (which is not your DnDBeyond.com account, the team uses this 3rd party software). It's easy to do and your votes are needed!
You realise they are not adding ads right? And the campaign mangement tools we have seen being developed (2 dev updates back we got shown wireframes for the encounter buildiers). Nor are they dealing away information to third parties fandom is merging hence why they get the data its not going anywhere else, there are no third parties involved.
Loex - A Lizardfolk Lvl 4/6/4 Hexblade Profane Blood Hunter/ Battlesmith Artificer/ Cleric of the Forge
Arborea - A Warforged Lvl 1 Hexblade Warlock
DM - "Malign Intelligence"
If you have already invested in the content here, why walk away before seeing what actually comes next?
If you cancel your account now or in 6 months they would be still bound to delete all the information they have on you, so why not wait and see if the change can actually be a positive one instead?
As things stand now none of us can know for sure what is going to happen, none of us know the extent or details of the deal Fandom has done with Curse, none of us can know if it will indeed become a "money-grabbing, advertisement intensive, 3rd-party customer information dealer".
If anything, the previous structure had even more parties involved (Curse -> Twitch -> Amazon) as far as I understand it.
Not trying to tell you what to do with your time/personal info/life, but it seems to be that you are kind of running to conclusions before actually having any proof of your fears being right.
(All of the above is just my opinion, do with it what you will)
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