So me and my players have a sperate group chat for sharing random dnd memes, and recently I noticed a surplus of memes referencing how many gay people play dnd. Not in a mean way, like 'You play dnd?? WHat are you gay? loll' But more like https://i.pinimg.com/originals/cd/47/37/cd4737bfe70791251ab3fd0d2c477896.jpg this.
Anyway I thought these were kinda jokes but then I realized.
I AM A GAY MAN DMING FOR THREE LESBIANS AND TWO MORE GAY MEN!!!!!| (Well some are bi)
Obviously not everyone that plays dnd is gay, a majority is probably straight
but is there really a above average amount of gay? A gay surplus? A queer quantity?
Hi, queer enby-ish person here. I think a big part of it is that WotC have really gone out of their way to be inclusive. They still have a ways to go, but they've included gay characters in official adventures and support the idea of characters that exist outside the gender binary and so on. Other than that, I think it's similar to any other number of other niche communities--whether that's your local queer community, your comic book friends, etc. It's a place where you can be yourself (or play around with being someone else!) in a safe environment with people you trust. I think roleplaying also takes a certain amount of vulnerability, something that I feel like us queer folks tend to be kind of drawn to? Again it allows us to open that part of ourselves in a safe environment. I'm also thinking about the idea of chosen family, and how that could apply to a gaming group, or an adventuring party ...
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DM: The Cult of the Crystal Spider (Currently playing Storm King's Thunder) Player: The Knuckles of Arth - Lemire (Tiefling Rogue 5/Fighter 1)
I don't know why more people of a gay nature play D&D but I myself am straight, but more players is more players I do not care if a player is or is not gay. I will not role play any sex acts in gaming of any nature, call me a prude or whatever for myself and those I game with it is a unneeded part of the game.
Yeah saaame, sex jokes or funny flirting moments are about as far as I go. Otherwise I don't see a reason to act out those things. The sexuality never effects the game much at all actually.
I'm your typical straight white cis male, and I'm not typically the social activist type, but something about D&D really brings that out in me. I love seeing diversity in players and DMs, and I think it should be the kind of thing welcome to all. I think because, when you break it down, everyone has an imagination. And when you're dealing in imagination, it's best to get to play with a variety of backgrounds and influences to get the most out of everyone's collective imaginations.
Also, I think the spirit of D&D is cooperation. What is an adventuring party, if not a group of diverse individuals working towards a common goal? I think that's something to be celebrated.
I remember reading somewhere that something like 90% of D&D players polled at a convention identified themselves as introverts. This obviously has nothing to do with LGBTQ, but it's interesting that a socially game by nature would appeal to such a large percentage of people who admittedly shy away from social situations.
You can draw your own conclusions, but I think it speaks for the inclusiveness of the DnD community.
I think queer or LGBTQI+ persons have a lot of different reasons for enjoying D&D (and other role-playing games). Straight white cis males (like myself) also have a lot of different reasons for enjoying the game, be it storytelling, serious hardcore tactical combat or just embracing an opportunity to make funny voices.
If i were to venture a guess (and hopefully not offending anyone) i think that some queer or LBBTQ people have a fondness for some of the campiness inherent (or at least adjacent) to a lot of fantasy in the D&D vein. It took me quite a few years of playing D&D before i was able to embrace this campiness myself, but now i found that allowing for the game to be not so serious have allowed me to take it to more serious places and even use it to adress some serious issues. This approach reminds of the approach that some queer or LBGTQI+ persons i know approach campiness in queer/LGBTQI+ culture.
My thougts and thumbs up for even more inclusivity in RPGs in the future. :-)
The world has changed. It is no longer what it once was - being gay or bisexual, transgender or anything is now much more accepted. Now I am not saying that we have arrived yet, there is still along way to go, still many real world battles to fight but at least in our fantasy worlds we can be anyone we want to be - we can even be who we truly are.
No matter your race, your religion, you gender, sexually, colour or creed - you can play dungeons and dragons. D&D crosses boundaries, it breaks down walls and bridges barriers, it makes friends out of strangers and allows us all to be the hero or heroine of our own story.
This is a good thing and wizards have went out of their way to make sure that the greatest game in the world, really is for everyone.
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I thought this was a good start to finally be said in the 5e Players Handbook:
"You can play a male or female character without gaining any special benefits or hindrances. Think about how your character does or does not conform to the broader culture’s expectations of sex, gender, and sexual behavior. For example, a male drow cleric defies the traditional gender divisions of drow society, which could be a reason for your character to leave that society and come to the surface.
You don’t need to be confined to binary notions of sex and gender. The elf god Corellon Larethian is often seen as androgynous or hermaphroditic, for example, and some elves in the multiverse are made in Corellon’s image. You could also play a female character who presents herself as a man, a man who feels trapped in a female body, or a bearded female dwarf who hates being mistaken for a male. Likewise, your character’s sexual orientation is for you to decide."
It might be because your gaming group is gay/lesbian/bi, that you all find and post and relate more to memes centered on those lifestyles
EDIT: This just seemed like the logical conclusion. My friend watches a lot of anime, so they find and post a lot of anime memes. I realize that watching anime is less serious than a person's identity/passion/sexuality, but the comparison I think can still be made in this case
EDIT 2: In my haste to reply I misread and misunderstood the point of the post. I'm not sure of the reason, but I'm digging how inclusive the game seems to be
i don't care what or who are you are, we can all sit and enjoy a game of DND as long as it isn't pushed onto anyone else or have it be announced every 5 minutes.
as for if there are? i have no idea as i do not make it a habit to poll every table i sat at, lol
Could i have suspected? sure, but it is not my place to question and possibly ruin someones fun by making them feel uncomfortable.
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I just want to tell everyone "happy gaming" and actually mean it. Whatever your game is, just have fun with it, it is after all, just a game.
as for if there are? i have no idea as i do not make it a habit to poll every table i sat at, lol
This is perhaps the point. It doesn't matter one way or the other and unless someone wants to specifically talk about it, then why would it even come up.
Like you, I don't think we need to know the ins and outs of somebodies life just to have fun playing together and so I don't even bother asking because it's none of my business in the first place.
We are after all, fellow.gamers and not the social police.
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But there is a long tradition of being Murder Hobos in D&D, standing right next to Monty Haul once everything is dead. please do not discriminate against Murder Hobos they like all others need our acceptance of them. lol
I think I have totally misunderstood this. I thought it was asking why d&d is so popular amongst gay people. To which I answered "because in d&d they can be themselves and that is good" but it seems that this was asking a different question and I don't have the answer to that.
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I think I have totally misunderstood this. I thought it was asking why d&d is so popular amongst gay people. To which I answered "because in d&d they can be themselves and that is good" but it seems that this was asking a different question and I don't have the answer to that.
you nailed it right on the nose, but we are just wandering our answers all over the place as we all suffer from a form of attention deficit disorder. But it is all ok we like Garlic Bread.
I remember reading somewhere that something like 90% of D&D players polled at a convention identified themselves as introverts. This obviously has nothing to do with LGBTQ, but it's interesting that a socially game by nature would appeal to such a large percentage of people who admittedly shy away from social situations.
You can draw your own conclusions, but I think it speaks for the inclusiveness of the DnD community.
I think this makes sense because you are playing someone else so it's not 'your' opinion/actions/etc, its the characters. You're not expected to make small talk, find common interests, act like you care what the other people are talking about. You just play your character.
I think this is the same lines of why the LGBT community fits in. It doesn't matter who your partner is, it matters that you get a high roll on the dice. :-P I also think that D&D players tend to be more 'nerds'/social outcasts and are therefore more accepting of others that don't tend to fit in.
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So me and my players have a sperate group chat for sharing random dnd memes, and recently I noticed a surplus of memes referencing how many gay people play dnd. Not in a mean way, like 'You play dnd?? WHat are you gay? loll' But more like
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/cd/47/37/cd4737bfe70791251ab3fd0d2c477896.jpg
this.
Anyway I thought these were kinda jokes but then I realized.
I AM A GAY MAN DMING FOR THREE LESBIANS AND TWO MORE GAY MEN!!!!!|
(Well some are bi)
Obviously not everyone that plays dnd is gay, a majority is probably straight
but is there really a above average amount of gay? A gay surplus? A queer quantity?
Why do gay people like dragons so much?
This is important science.
Hi, queer enby-ish person here. I think a big part of it is that WotC have really gone out of their way to be inclusive. They still have a ways to go, but they've included gay characters in official adventures and support the idea of characters that exist outside the gender binary and so on. Other than that, I think it's similar to any other number of other niche communities--whether that's your local queer community, your comic book friends, etc. It's a place where you can be yourself (or play around with being someone else!) in a safe environment with people you trust. I think roleplaying also takes a certain amount of vulnerability, something that I feel like us queer folks tend to be kind of drawn to? Again it allows us to open that part of ourselves in a safe environment. I'm also thinking about the idea of chosen family, and how that could apply to a gaming group, or an adventuring party ...
DM: The Cult of the Crystal Spider (Currently playing Storm King's Thunder)
Player: The Knuckles of Arth - Lemire (Tiefling Rogue 5/Fighter 1)
I don't know why more people of a gay nature play D&D but I myself am straight, but more players is more players I do not care if a player is or is not gay. I will not role play any sex acts in gaming of any nature, call me a prude or whatever for myself and those I game with it is a unneeded part of the game.
Yeah saaame, sex jokes or funny flirting moments are about as far as I go. Otherwise I don't see a reason to act out those things. The sexuality never effects the game much at all actually.
Have you listened to this podcast? Straight guy here who would fall over himself twice to play with people who can have fun like this:
https://queensofadventure.com
More players is more players.
As long as they're not murder hobbos.
"Sooner or later, your Players are going to smash your railroad into a sandbox."
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"real life is a super high CR."
-OboeLauren
"............anybody got any potatoes? We could drop a potato in each hole an' see which ones get viciously mauled by horrible monsters?"
-Ilyara Thundertale
I'm your typical straight white cis male, and I'm not typically the social activist type, but something about D&D really brings that out in me. I love seeing diversity in players and DMs, and I think it should be the kind of thing welcome to all. I think because, when you break it down, everyone has an imagination. And when you're dealing in imagination, it's best to get to play with a variety of backgrounds and influences to get the most out of everyone's collective imaginations.
Also, I think the spirit of D&D is cooperation. What is an adventuring party, if not a group of diverse individuals working towards a common goal? I think that's something to be celebrated.
I remember reading somewhere that something like 90% of D&D players polled at a convention identified themselves as introverts. This obviously has nothing to do with LGBTQ, but it's interesting that a socially game by nature would appeal to such a large percentage of people who admittedly shy away from social situations.
You can draw your own conclusions, but I think it speaks for the inclusiveness of the DnD community.
I like to point to this article from the Analog Game Studies: Out of the dungeons representations of queer sexuality in rpg source books to show how far RPGs have moved in a positive direction on this topic.
I think queer or LGBTQI+ persons have a lot of different reasons for enjoying D&D (and other role-playing games). Straight white cis males (like myself) also have a lot of different reasons for enjoying the game, be it storytelling, serious hardcore tactical combat or just embracing an opportunity to make funny voices.
If i were to venture a guess (and hopefully not offending anyone) i think that some queer or LBBTQ people have a fondness for some of the campiness inherent (or at least adjacent) to a lot of fantasy in the D&D vein. It took me quite a few years of playing D&D before i was able to embrace this campiness myself, but now i found that allowing for the game to be not so serious have allowed me to take it to more serious places and even use it to adress some serious issues. This approach reminds of the approach that some queer or LBGTQI+ persons i know approach campiness in queer/LGBTQI+ culture.
My thougts and thumbs up for even more inclusivity in RPGs in the future. :-)
The world has changed. It is no longer what it once was - being gay or bisexual, transgender or anything is now much more accepted. Now I am not saying that we have arrived yet, there is still along way to go, still many real world battles to fight but at least in our fantasy worlds we can be anyone we want to be - we can even be who we truly are.
No matter your race, your religion, you gender, sexually, colour or creed - you can play dungeons and dragons. D&D crosses boundaries, it breaks down walls and bridges barriers, it makes friends out of strangers and allows us all to be the hero or heroine of our own story.
This is a good thing and wizards have went out of their way to make sure that the greatest game in the world, really is for everyone.
I am an online author and sci-fi lover who plays table too roleplaying games in his free time. See all my character concepts at: Character Bios – Jays Blog (jaytelford.me)
I thought this was a good start to finally be said in the 5e Players Handbook:
"You can play a male or female character without gaining any special benefits or hindrances. Think about how your character does or does not conform to the broader culture’s expectations of sex, gender, and sexual behavior. For example, a male drow cleric defies the traditional gender divisions of drow society, which could be a reason for your character to leave that society and come to the surface.
You don’t need to be confined to binary notions of sex and gender. The elf god Corellon Larethian is often seen as androgynous or hermaphroditic, for example, and some elves in the multiverse are made in Corellon’s image. You could also play a female character who presents herself as a man, a man who feels trapped in a female body, or a bearded female dwarf who hates being mistaken for a male. Likewise, your character’s sexual orientation is for you to decide."
It might be because your gaming group is gay/lesbian/bi, that you all find and post and relate more to memes centered on those lifestyles
EDIT: This just seemed like the logical conclusion. My friend watches a lot of anime, so they find and post a lot of anime memes. I realize that watching anime is less serious than a person's identity/passion/sexuality, but the comparison I think can still be made in this case
EDIT 2: In my haste to reply I misread and misunderstood the point of the post. I'm not sure of the reason, but I'm digging how inclusive the game seems to be
I know what you're thinking: "In that flurry of blows, did he use all his ki points, or save one?" Well, are ya feeling lucky, punk?
i don't care what or who are you are, we can all sit and enjoy a game of DND as long as it isn't pushed onto anyone else or have it be announced every 5 minutes.
as for if there are? i have no idea as i do not make it a habit to poll every table i sat at, lol
Could i have suspected? sure, but it is not my place to question and possibly ruin someones fun by making them feel uncomfortable.
I just want to tell everyone "happy gaming" and actually mean it. Whatever your game is, just have fun with it, it is after all, just a game.
This is perhaps the point. It doesn't matter one way or the other and unless someone wants to specifically talk about it, then why would it even come up.
Like you, I don't think we need to know the ins and outs of somebodies life just to have fun playing together and so I don't even bother asking because it's none of my business in the first place.
We are after all, fellow.gamers and not the social police.
I am an online author and sci-fi lover who plays table too roleplaying games in his free time. See all my character concepts at: Character Bios – Jays Blog (jaytelford.me)
I don't know, but what I do know is that I am totally gay for D&D.
"Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation."
― Oscar Wilde.
But there is a long tradition of being Murder Hobos in D&D, standing right next to Monty Haul once everything is dead. please do not discriminate against Murder Hobos they like all others need our acceptance of them. lol
I think I have totally misunderstood this. I thought it was asking why d&d is so popular amongst gay people. To which I answered "because in d&d they can be themselves and that is good" but it seems that this was asking a different question and I don't have the answer to that.
I am an online author and sci-fi lover who plays table too roleplaying games in his free time. See all my character concepts at: Character Bios – Jays Blog (jaytelford.me)
you nailed it right on the nose, but we are just wandering our answers all over the place as we all suffer from a form of attention deficit disorder. But it is all ok we like Garlic Bread.
A tradition that deserves to be burned with fire.
No. No they do not require acceptance; they require persecution of the highest order!
"Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation."
― Oscar Wilde.
I think this makes sense because you are playing someone else so it's not 'your' opinion/actions/etc, its the characters. You're not expected to make small talk, find common interests, act like you care what the other people are talking about. You just play your character.
I think this is the same lines of why the LGBT community fits in. It doesn't matter who your partner is, it matters that you get a high roll on the dice. :-P I also think that D&D players tend to be more 'nerds'/social outcasts and are therefore more accepting of others that don't tend to fit in.