I love weapons and video games inspire a lot of my takes on weapons! I made a ninja monk and worked all weapons into Japanese style i.e. Sai instead of dagger. So I really want to do a blade ring on a character, not sure the class yet but have it be entertainer (hula hoop esque) background. I'm thinking like Tira from Soul Calibur but I can't think of a weapon that this could work as :/
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I'd say it depends on whether you want to appropriate the mechanics of an existing weapon (as the monk weapons suggests), or you intend an entirely new weapon type.
For the former, the longsword treatment seems adequate: Martial (there's no "exotic", which I'd classify this as, but it's certainly not Simple), 1d8 (its blade is easily equivalent to a sword's), slashing (obviously), and Versatile 1d10 (this is trickier, but Tira's combat style seems to support the idea).
Frustratingly, this design doesn't have Finesse, which I suspect is important for the character archetype you're suggesting (and Tira's combat style, again, seems to support the idea). Sadly, there's no d8 slashing finesse in the PHB, and this is certainly no Light weapon. Slightly modifying the Rapier to slashing damage would perhaps be a better idea.
Now, if you want an entirely new weapon type, I can easily see a Martial, 1d8 Slashing, Finesse, Versatile d10. Does it break things? I don't know - no other weapon in the PHB combines those traits. Does it suit the weapon (and Tira's combat style)? Absolutely. Should you go for it? You should certainly speak with your DM/Group and let us know how it worked out. :)
I'd say it depends on whether you want to appropriate the mechanics of an existing weapon (as the monk weapons suggests), or you intend an entirely new weapon type.
For the former, the longsword treatment seems adequate: Martial (there's no "exotic", which I'd classify this as, but it's certainly not Simple), 1d8 (its blade is easily equivalent to a sword's), slashing (obviously), and Versatile 1d10 (this is trickier, but Tira's combat style seems to support the idea).
Frustratingly, this design doesn't have Finesse, which I suspect is important for the character archetype you're suggesting (and Tira's combat style, again, seems to support the idea). Sadly, there's no d8 slashing finesse in the PHB, and this is certainly no Light weapon. Slightly modifying the Rapier to slashing damage would perhaps be a better idea.
Now, if you want an entirely new weapon type, I can easily see a Martial, 1d8 Slashing, Finesse, Versatile d10. Does it break things? I don't know - no other weapon in the PHB combines those traits. Does it suit the weapon (and Tira's combat style)? Absolutely. Should you go for it? You should certainly speak with your DM/Group and let us know how it worked out. :)
THis is so wonderful! Thank you for your detailed help! I was thinking it would be finesse as well! Just couldn't find something to fit it. I will definitely ask my DM what his thoughts are on it! He's super fun and as long as it doesn't break the game he loves adding features! I will be seeing them on Tuesday so I will ask then and get back to you!
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You can take off Finesse and make Tira as a Kensei Monk, pick this weapon as one of the martial kensei weapons if you DM consider Kensei Weapon = Monk Weapon. Martial Arts let you use Dex like if the weapon has the Finesse tag
I am rather against making a weapon that is better than anything in the players handbook already. If its the same, I could work with that, but letting one person make something better just leads to everyone wanting something better and more impressive and Its something I don't want to deal with. Also someone would figure out how to make my life miserable because of it.
As a DM I would absolutely allow a weapon like this to exist in my world, though there would be stipulations. For example; You want it at character creation, give me a good background story to explain it. How did you acquire it? How did you train with it? Etc.; If you want it on a character that's already in the game I'd have you craft it. The rolls would decide the stats of the final weapon, the difficulty would be more tied to the game itself though I'd make it mildly difficult at the very least.
As for potential stats I actually agree with a lot of what has already been said here. 1D8 dmg seems entirely reasonable to me; slashing is a gimme; Versatile OR Finesse makes sense; though I might add something along the line of Special: If you are proficient with this weapon you gain +1AC. My reasoning for the last bit being that it can be looped around your body, essentially acting as a guard against incoming attack passively.
That is, of course, just my opinion. Regardless, I hope you have fun with your character. ^_^
I made a ninja monk and worked all weapons into Japanese style i.e. Sai instead of dagger.
Sai are truncheons weapons not bladed or sharp pointy weapons. I don't remeber if it passed further then the Playtesting of NEXT, but the "Oriental" Flavoring of Weapons Table re-skinned Light Hammer into Sai, as they both are blunt force weapons, can be used for two-weapon fighting and both are throwing weapons.
I made a ninja monk and worked all weapons into Japanese style i.e. Sai instead of dagger.
Sai are truncheons weapons not bladed or sharp pointy weapons. I don't remeber if it passed further then the Playtesting of NEXT, but the "Oriental" Flavoring of Weapons Table re-skinned Light Hammer into Sai, as they both are blunt force weapons, can be used for two-weapon fighting and both are throwing weapons.
Sai are swordbreakers, similar to the Italian jitte. Daggers with two prongs, one on each side of the main blade, used to catch and snap an opponent's longer sword.
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Yeah, they are sword breakers, but they aren't sharp. They are blunt, so the choice of dagger is inappropriate. Also, the Jitte isn't Italian -It is also a Japanese weapon.
Never heard of a Italian Jitte, but I have heard of the Japanese Jitte. When you have a weapon like the Sai/Jitte that are meant as blocking attacks and entrap weapons it's not the best idea to have it as a bladed weapon, you'd ruin the edge right away, and Japanese blades might be razor sharp but look at them the wrong way and they chip. That's why in kenjutsu when blocking with your sword you should never make edge-to-edge contact.
And as the pictures hows under my post, the monouchi (middle prong) is not sharp, it's usually round or faceted. Plus if it was bladed like a stiletto or dagger, you'd seriously injury yourself the way the sai is supposed to be held; close to your arms and body.
Bladed sai are a fictional product by 80's and Pop-Culture, such as Frank Miller's Elektra and the 1987 Ninja Turtles. Or being mixed up with the Indian/Thai short-handle trident (Trisula)
I was wondering if there was a similar weapon in Italy for a moment.
In either case, with D&D being a fantasy game and all, I'd like to note that if people want bladed sai a'la Rafael (the turtle, not the painter) instead of the sword-catching blunt weapons of historical accuracy, and their DMs are okay with it, they should definitely go for it.
Pop culture, after all, has colored a lot of games. Like the original post of this thread - hula hoop was never historically a bladed weapon, if memory serves. :p
Oh sure. It's all fair game as long as the DM approves. A "bladed sai" would basically be a trident without the staff part, which as far as I know is what the trisula is.
maybe not hula hoop sized, but the circle blade do look a like the Indian chakram, and fantasy do love to enlarge weapons :P Could give it the Throw property :D
Or just reflavour the scimitar. I don't know if the Versatile modifier is necessary, but you could always trade "Light" for "Versatile d8" - this would still make it similar to a rapier.
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I love weapons and video games inspire a lot of my takes on weapons! I made a ninja monk and worked all weapons into Japanese style i.e. Sai instead of dagger. So I really want to do a blade ring on a character, not sure the class yet but have it be entertainer (hula hoop esque) background. I'm thinking like Tira from Soul Calibur but I can't think of a weapon that this could work as :/
Current Character~ Anastael Lasselom, Druid of the Moon Lvl 3
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I'd say it depends on whether you want to appropriate the mechanics of an existing weapon (as the monk weapons suggests), or you intend an entirely new weapon type.
For the former, the longsword treatment seems adequate: Martial (there's no "exotic", which I'd classify this as, but it's certainly not Simple), 1d8 (its blade is easily equivalent to a sword's), slashing (obviously), and Versatile 1d10 (this is trickier, but Tira's combat style seems to support the idea).
Frustratingly, this design doesn't have Finesse, which I suspect is important for the character archetype you're suggesting (and Tira's combat style, again, seems to support the idea). Sadly, there's no d8 slashing finesse in the PHB, and this is certainly no Light weapon. Slightly modifying the Rapier to slashing damage would perhaps be a better idea.
Now, if you want an entirely new weapon type, I can easily see a Martial, 1d8 Slashing, Finesse, Versatile d10. Does it break things? I don't know - no other weapon in the PHB combines those traits. Does it suit the weapon (and Tira's combat style)? Absolutely. Should you go for it? You should certainly speak with your DM/Group and let us know how it worked out. :)
For balance reasons, I would rule that you could either give it finesse OR versatile, but not both.
I'd call it a battleaxe and call it a day. I agree about it either being finesse OR versatile.
Current Character~ Anastael Lasselom, Druid of the Moon Lvl 3
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You can take off Finesse and make Tira as a Kensei Monk, pick this weapon as one of the martial kensei weapons if you DM consider Kensei Weapon = Monk Weapon. Martial Arts let you use Dex like if the weapon has the Finesse tag
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Special: Versatile 1d10; if used one-handed, apply Finesse property.
Alternatively, throw in the Heavy property.
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I am rather against making a weapon that is better than anything in the players handbook already. If its the same, I could work with that, but letting one person make something better just leads to everyone wanting something better and more impressive and Its something I don't want to deal with. Also someone would figure out how to make my life miserable because of it.
As a DM I would absolutely allow a weapon like this to exist in my world, though there would be stipulations. For example; You want it at character creation, give me a good background story to explain it. How did you acquire it? How did you train with it? Etc.; If you want it on a character that's already in the game I'd have you craft it. The rolls would decide the stats of the final weapon, the difficulty would be more tied to the game itself though I'd make it mildly difficult at the very least.
As for potential stats I actually agree with a lot of what has already been said here. 1D8 dmg seems entirely reasonable to me; slashing is a gimme; Versatile OR Finesse makes sense; though I might add something along the line of Special: If you are proficient with this weapon you gain +1AC. My reasoning for the last bit being that it can be looped around your body, essentially acting as a guard against incoming attack passively.
That is, of course, just my opinion. Regardless, I hope you have fun with your character. ^_^
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Yeah, they are sword breakers, but they aren't sharp. They are blunt, so the choice of dagger is inappropriate. Also, the Jitte isn't Italian -It is also a Japanese weapon.
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Never heard of a Italian Jitte, but I have heard of the Japanese Jitte. When you have a weapon like the Sai/Jitte that are meant as blocking attacks and entrap weapons it's not the best idea to have it as a bladed weapon, you'd ruin the edge right away, and Japanese blades might be razor sharp but look at them the wrong way and they chip. That's why in kenjutsu when blocking with your sword you should never make edge-to-edge contact.
And as the pictures hows under my post, the monouchi (middle prong) is not sharp, it's usually round or faceted. Plus if it was bladed like a stiletto or dagger, you'd seriously injury yourself the way the sai is supposed to be held; close to your arms and body.
Bladed sai are a fictional product by 80's and Pop-Culture, such as Frank Miller's Elektra and the 1987 Ninja Turtles. Or being mixed up with the Indian/Thai short-handle trident (Trisula)
I was wondering if there was a similar weapon in Italy for a moment.
In either case, with D&D being a fantasy game and all, I'd like to note that if people want bladed sai a'la Rafael (the turtle, not the painter) instead of the sword-catching blunt weapons of historical accuracy, and their DMs are okay with it, they should definitely go for it.
Pop culture, after all, has colored a lot of games. Like the original post of this thread - hula hoop was never historically a bladed weapon, if memory serves. :p
Oh sure. It's all fair game as long as the DM approves. A "bladed sai" would basically be a trident without the staff part, which as far as I know is what the trisula is.
maybe not hula hoop sized, but the circle blade do look a like the Indian chakram, and fantasy do love to enlarge weapons :P Could give it the Throw property :D
Or just reflavour the scimitar. I don't know if the Versatile modifier is necessary, but you could always trade "Light" for "Versatile d8" - this would still make it similar to a rapier.
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