I have been working on several builds that all revolve around charisma. These include both Paladin/Sorcerer and Paladin/Bard. I’ve heard great things about the Aura of protection at level 6, but I know changing your physical attacks to Charisma is a very effective (and probably overused) strategy. So I decided to leave it up to the forms: which do I take?
For context, my Strength is at 15 but my Charisma ends up at 20, so Charisma is indeed the higher stat. My Bard is one of Lore and would get Dominate Monster if leveled up. My Sorcerer is a Divine Soul and would get Holy Aura.
if you have any other questions about my build intentions please feel free to ask in the comments, and I will try to answer ASAP.
When it comes to paladin multiclassing, at least as far as 6 levels are concerned, your best choices are either warlock or sorcerer. If you're wanting to multiclass bard, you'd be better going with two levels of paladin, and going with swords bard.
What are you wanting to accomplish, exactly? What do you want to get out of multiclassing?
I do have a Conquest 6/ Hexblade 14 build already. My Conquest/Divine Soul was 6/14 before I got the Hexblade level idea, same with the Conquest 6/Lore 14.
i read somewhere sword bards weren’t that good, but i have no idea if they take multiclassing into consideration. Which class would I start with? It would be nice to have the armror from the start as a Paladin, but I would already have to wait on getting a second attack at level 6! Are there any feats that help compensate for this, such as what Great Weapon Master does for Paladin/Warlock?
i guess I just really like the idea of GISH characters and like to experiment. My “main” plan right now is a Divine Soul 18/ Hexblade 2 based on the figure I had printed a while ago. It won’t really look the part when i get armor, but at this rate by then maybe I’ll have a new one available.Anyway, it too is more of a blaster obviously and I wanted to see what I could come up with more i dependently rather than just from online builds directly. I know 3 classes in 1 is a little messy, but it just seemed like a good optimization of my 17+ charisma score as opposed to my 15 strength.
Swords bard, as a purebred with no multiclassing, is kinda bad as a gish because it really can't do the melee marital part all too well because it lacks good weapon and armor proficiencies. For that reason, you'll often see swords bard paired with multiclass options that shore up that weakness, and that notably includes hexblade 1/ swords bard X. With the hexblade dip, the swords bard now attacks with CHA, can wear shields, use the Shield spell and can potentially select a blade cantrip such as booming blade or green flame blade which in turn shores up the weakness of lacking extra attack until total level 7.
Other swords bard options include starting as paladin or fighter. The former requires 2 levels to work, since that's when you get your smites and you basically become a paladin that gets spell slots much more quickly at the cost of your aura of protection. However, the latter only requires one level, as you're mainly interested in the proficiencies for weapons, armors, and CON saving throws, and keeping progression delay to an absolute minimum. It should be noted that both these options are also delaying extra attack to total level 7 without any inherent ways to compensate, so you may want to consider building these as High Elves to access Booming Blade for aforementioned reasons. Now, since these are MAD by wanting both high STR and CHA, you can possibly build these as focused on STR because more than enough spells that don't rely on spell DC exist at every single spell level, granted, you will be inherently limited on selection.But at least it works, and effectively at that.
In either case, you look to have the right idea with your current builds.
Interesting, I had not considered taking non-damaging spells for my Paladin/Bard to focus on Strength, but that does make a lot of sense. i would consider doing the Warlock/Bard, but I already have a Sorcerer/Warlock “main” and am trying to branch out. Same goes for fighter with my artificer/fighter. Still, thank you for your input! I’ll be sure to review it and take it into consideration with my build.
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I have been working on several builds that all revolve around charisma. These include both Paladin/Sorcerer and Paladin/Bard. I’ve heard great things about the Aura of protection at level 6, but I know changing your physical attacks to Charisma is a very effective (and probably overused) strategy. So I decided to leave it up to the forms: which do I take?
For context, my Strength is at 15 but my Charisma ends up at 20, so Charisma is indeed the higher stat. My Bard is one of Lore and would get Dominate Monster if leveled up. My Sorcerer is a Divine Soul and would get Holy Aura.
if you have any other questions about my build intentions please feel free to ask in the comments, and I will try to answer ASAP.
When it comes to paladin multiclassing, at least as far as 6 levels are concerned, your best choices are either warlock or sorcerer. If you're wanting to multiclass bard, you'd be better going with two levels of paladin, and going with swords bard.
What are you wanting to accomplish, exactly? What do you want to get out of multiclassing?
I do have a Conquest 6/ Hexblade 14 build already. My Conquest/Divine Soul was 6/14 before I got the Hexblade level idea, same with the Conquest 6/Lore 14.
i read somewhere sword bards weren’t that good, but i have no idea if they take multiclassing into consideration. Which class would I start with? It would be nice to have the armror from the start as a Paladin, but I would already have to wait on getting a second attack at level 6! Are there any feats that help compensate for this, such as what Great Weapon Master does for Paladin/Warlock?
i guess I just really like the idea of GISH characters and like to experiment. My “main” plan right now is a Divine Soul 18/ Hexblade 2 based on the figure I had printed a while ago. It won’t really look the part when i get armor, but at this rate by then maybe I’ll have a new one available.Anyway, it too is more of a blaster obviously and I wanted to see what I could come up with more i dependently rather than just from online builds directly. I know 3 classes in 1 is a little messy, but it just seemed like a good optimization of my 17+ charisma score as opposed to my 15 strength.
Swords bard, as a purebred with no multiclassing, is kinda bad as a gish because it really can't do the melee marital part all too well because it lacks good weapon and armor proficiencies. For that reason, you'll often see swords bard paired with multiclass options that shore up that weakness, and that notably includes hexblade 1/ swords bard X. With the hexblade dip, the swords bard now attacks with CHA, can wear shields, use the Shield spell and can potentially select a blade cantrip such as booming blade or green flame blade which in turn shores up the weakness of lacking extra attack until total level 7.
Other swords bard options include starting as paladin or fighter. The former requires 2 levels to work, since that's when you get your smites and you basically become a paladin that gets spell slots much more quickly at the cost of your aura of protection. However, the latter only requires one level, as you're mainly interested in the proficiencies for weapons, armors, and CON saving throws, and keeping progression delay to an absolute minimum. It should be noted that both these options are also delaying extra attack to total level 7 without any inherent ways to compensate, so you may want to consider building these as High Elves to access Booming Blade for aforementioned reasons. Now, since these are MAD by wanting both high STR and CHA, you can possibly build these as focused on STR because more than enough spells that don't rely on spell DC exist at every single spell level, granted, you will be inherently limited on selection. But at least it works, and effectively at that.
In either case, you look to have the right idea with your current builds.
Interesting, I had not considered taking non-damaging spells for my Paladin/Bard to focus on Strength, but that does make a lot of sense.
i would consider doing the Warlock/Bard, but I already have a Sorcerer/Warlock “main” and am trying to branch out. Same goes for fighter with my artificer/fighter.
Still, thank you for your input! I’ll be sure to review it and take it into consideration with my build.