You have chosen the 2024 cleric and thus it follows the 2024 cleric creation rules. You have to scroll down and select the 2014 version of the class and then the cleric domain is selectable at level 1.
Scroll down where exactly, thedragonbg? I can't find anything on my character builder >:(
The option was the Paladins Oath of Watchers. It is lo longer visible on D&D Beyond with our subscription (to 2014 phb). And there's no way of knowing up front if it will become available (as a legacy option) if we go ahead and pay up for a 2024 subscription.
Oath of the Watchers seems to be classified under “Expanded Rules”. It’s still avalible and is not yet classified as legacy. It’s from Tasha’s Cauldron of Everything. Did you have Tasha’s already?
The option was the Paladins Oath of Watchers. It is lo longer visible on D&D Beyond with our subscription (to 2014 phb). And there's no way of knowing up front if it will become available (as a legacy option) if we go ahead and pay up for a 2024 subscription.
Oath of the Watchers seems to be classified under “Expanded Rules”. It’s still avalible and is not yet classified as legacy. It’s from Tasha’s Cauldron of Everything. Did you have Tasha’s already?
Yep, we have Tasha's ... and my switch (in the Home tab) is set to accept Legacy ... but no Oath of Watchers. As I mentioned before, the only thing we don't have is the 2024 PHB. This says to me that D&D Beyond is now fully-engaged 2024 and that if you haven't bought the 2024 PHB, you can only get the free basic 2024 rules (not the 2014 rules) which doesn't let you access anything else from 2014 except the spells (and don't get me started on navigating that shipwreck!).
Yep. So I log in, go thru the campaign, select character, go to character builder and into Class. Then Class Features, then Available at Higher Levels. Scroll down to Sacred Oaths where only one option (Oath of Devotion) is offered.
I've been having the same issue of 2024 crap forcing it's way into all my "Legacy" and even after turning off all the 2024 junk me and my players are STILL getting a bunch of 2024 crap all the time. We've just said **** it and all of us cancelled our subscriptions here and are using Roll20 and pen and paper now for online and in person games now. Good job DnDBeyond and WotC, that's yet another group of customers/consumers you have ran off from your brand for your piss poor handling of the 2024 new edition. At least ******* has a 2014 version of their site and database and still has EVERY BOOK for 5e.
Yep. So I log in, go thru the campaign, select character, go to character builder and into Class. Then Class Features, then Available at Higher Levels. Scroll down to Sacred Oaths where only one option (Oath of Devotion) is offered.
Hmmm. Did you originally build the character, or did your DM/campaign owner?
I'm honestly not sure what's wrong. I'm still able to select Oath of the Watchers for both 2014 and 2024 paladin.
I will say that while the "Available at higher levels" blub does suggest 'oath of devotion' it's not limited to it, it's just a suggestion.
What mine says is: "Now you choose the Oath of Devotion detailed at the end of the class description or one from another source."
Try advancing your character to level 3, and see if the option is there.
@Bubbler3D I'm not sure you'll ever see this. I used to use google docs to create a character. Just type it in line by line. I even had all the level bonuses in there as well. You might even be able to convert a character sheet to PDF or doc. They are probably already available. I hate pencil and paper but go for it.
Yep. So I log in, go thru the campaign, select character, go to character builder and into Class. Then Class Features, then Available at Higher Levels. Scroll down to Sacred Oaths where only one option (Oath of Devotion) is offered.
Hmmm. Did you originally build the character, or did your DM/campaign owner?
I'm honestly not sure what's wrong. I'm still able to select Oath of the Watchers for both 2014 and 2024 paladin.
I will say that while the "Available at higher levels" blub does suggest 'oath of devotion' it's not limited to it, it's just a suggestion.
What mine says is: "Now you choose the Oath of Devotion detailed at the end of the class description or one from another source."
Try advancing your character to level 3, and see if the option is there.
Thanks, all, for your help.
I'll just go ahead and level up and see what happens.
@Bubbler3D I'm not sure you'll ever see this. I used to use google docs to create a character. Just type it in line by line. I even had all the level bonuses in there as well. You might even be able to convert a character sheet to PDF or doc. They are probably already available. I hate pencil and paper but go for it.
I did see it and we're all players that have been around since 3.5 days so pen and paper, well technically pencil and paper, is far better for us than having to deal with spreadsheet and formulas for simple things like character sheets. That's just way over complicating something that's already very simple and straight forward. In case you couldn't tell, I despise and abhor spreadsheets, we're playing a game not trying to run a business. Thanks but no thanks for the spreadsheet idea.
So as far as I can tell, the expanded rules switch is not for turning off the new 2024 rule set. It is linked to any of the supplemental books like Tashas, Xanathars, and Eberron (which I personally no longer considered supplemental and treated them the same as the players handbook). This, and the fact we can turn off the Legacy features proves they already have the capability to let us turn off the new 2024 rules and are choosing not to. We can turn off everything but the new rules and I don't think that will change any time soon unfortunately.
Yeah, this new interface is hot garbage. Just got a new player to introduce into an ongoing campaign, having a headache trying to navigate them around all the new content so it's the legacy stuff that actually works with rest of the campaign. This is online so I can't just look over the shoulder and point to the things so they know what I'm talking about. This is also going to screw with the spell casters since it's either going to be them having their spells change out from under them, their spell lists will be different so some of the prepared casters may get screwed, or their going to have to deal with a massive list of "Duplicate" spells that going by DDB's usually trash tier UI probably will require manually expanding the spell and reading it to find out which version it's from. At this point I'm seriously just considering just grabbing a foundry module to scrape all the content I own out of DDB into an actual working system.
edit: Whelp new issue just reared it's head. The Feats, level restricted feats. Yeah, my subscription renewal is coming up at the end of november and I don't think I'm going to renew this garbage. I only bothered with this for the character maker because WotC strikes down every other one that pops up using anything more than the SRD info so it's the only way for me to have a digital sheet manager for online play without having everyone just pirate the content I own the physical books for (and requires me to buy that shit again). At this point, **** it, Gabe was right; it's a service issue.
I have the 2024 and 2014 PHB along with Tasha's and Xanathar's.
The Oath of the Watchers, for the 2014 rules, you have to select the 2014 Paladin to 3rd level and then the Oath of the Watchers shows in the Expanded Rules subclasses.
It shows Oath of the Watchers (TCoE) in the drop-down. It's a Tasha's subclass.
Also, make sure all of your books are synced. Just having Oath of Glory sounds like the sync is off or you disabled some of the custom toggles.
So after researching and wanting the players to keep some of the legacy rules, we have changed the level back to 1 (keep track of how much XP they have first), switched classes, deleted the old. Give it a sec, then change back to the original class, delete the fake class. Change the XP back to normal and the system will ask you to pick out the new stuff and you can not select any of the new requirements and it seems the character does just fine. I believe this will work for everyone to stay in true legacy rules. It works for us!
So after researching and wanting the players to keep some of the legacy rules, we have changed the level back to 1 (keep track of how much XP they have first), switched classes, deleted the old. Give it a sec, then change back to the original class, delete the fake class. Change the XP back to normal and the system will ask you to pick out the new stuff and you can not select any of the new requirements and it seems the character does just fine. I believe this will work for everyone to stay in true legacy rules. It works for us!
This seems way more complicated than just changing to the legacy version of the class?
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Scroll down where exactly, thedragonbg? I can't find anything on my character builder >:(
Make sure the Legacy switch is on on the Home tab under the creator…
Oath of the Watchers seems to be classified under “Expanded Rules”. It’s still avalible and is not yet classified as legacy. It’s from Tasha’s Cauldron of Everything. Did you have Tasha’s already?
Yep, we have Tasha's ... and my switch (in the Home tab) is set to accept Legacy ... but no Oath of Watchers. As I mentioned before, the only thing we don't have is the 2024 PHB. This says to me that D&D Beyond is now fully-engaged 2024 and that if you haven't bought the 2024 PHB, you can only get the free basic 2024 rules (not the 2014 rules) which doesn't let you access anything else from 2014 except the spells (and don't get me started on navigating that shipwreck!).
Do you also have expanded rules enabled?
Do you have Expanded Rules switch enabled?
Watchers is in the Expanded Rules, not Legacy.
Yep. So I log in, go thru the campaign, select character, go to character builder and into Class. Then Class Features, then Available at Higher Levels. Scroll down to Sacred Oaths where only one option (Oath of Devotion) is offered.
I've been having the same issue of 2024 crap forcing it's way into all my "Legacy" and even after turning off all the 2024 junk me and my players are STILL getting a bunch of 2024 crap all the time. We've just said **** it and all of us cancelled our subscriptions here and are using Roll20 and pen and paper now for online and in person games now. Good job DnDBeyond and WotC, that's yet another group of customers/consumers you have ran off from your brand for your piss poor handling of the 2024 new edition. At least ******* has a 2014 version of their site and database and still has EVERY BOOK for 5e.
Hmmm. Did you originally build the character, or did your DM/campaign owner?
I'm honestly not sure what's wrong. I'm still able to select Oath of the Watchers for both 2014 and 2024 paladin.
I will say that while the "Available at higher levels" blub does suggest 'oath of devotion' it's not limited to it, it's just a suggestion.
What mine says is: "Now you choose the Oath of Devotion detailed at the end of the class description or one from another source."
Try advancing your character to level 3, and see if the option is there.
@Bubbler3D I'm not sure you'll ever see this. I used to use google docs to create a character. Just type it in line by line. I even had all the level bonuses in there as well. You might even be able to convert a character sheet to PDF or doc. They are probably already available. I hate pencil and paper but go for it.
We are all in danger!
Thanks, all, for your help.
I'll just go ahead and level up and see what happens.
I did see it and we're all players that have been around since 3.5 days so pen and paper, well technically pencil and paper, is far better for us than having to deal with spreadsheet and formulas for simple things like character sheets. That's just way over complicating something that's already very simple and straight forward. In case you couldn't tell, I despise and abhor spreadsheets, we're playing a game not trying to run a business. Thanks but no thanks for the spreadsheet idea.
So as far as I can tell, the expanded rules switch is not for turning off the new 2024 rule set. It is linked to any of the supplemental books like Tashas, Xanathars, and Eberron (which I personally no longer considered supplemental and treated them the same as the players handbook). This, and the fact we can turn off the Legacy features proves they already have the capability to let us turn off the new 2024 rules and are choosing not to. We can turn off everything but the new rules and I don't think that will change any time soon unfortunately.
Yeah, this new interface is hot garbage. Just got a new player to introduce into an ongoing campaign, having a headache trying to navigate them around all the new content so it's the legacy stuff that actually works with rest of the campaign. This is online so I can't just look over the shoulder and point to the things so they know what I'm talking about. This is also going to screw with the spell casters since it's either going to be them having their spells change out from under them, their spell lists will be different so some of the prepared casters may get screwed, or their going to have to deal with a massive list of "Duplicate" spells that going by DDB's usually trash tier UI probably will require manually expanding the spell and reading it to find out which version it's from. At this point I'm seriously just considering just grabbing a foundry module to scrape all the content I own out of DDB into an actual working system.
edit: Whelp new issue just reared it's head. The Feats, level restricted feats. Yeah, my subscription renewal is coming up at the end of november and I don't think I'm going to renew this garbage. I only bothered with this for the character maker because WotC strikes down every other one that pops up using anything more than the SRD info so it's the only way for me to have a digital sheet manager for online play without having everyone just pirate the content I own the physical books for (and requires me to buy that shit again). At this point, **** it, Gabe was right; it's a service issue.
I have the 2024 and 2014 PHB along with Tasha's and Xanathar's.
The Oath of the Watchers, for the 2014 rules, you have to select the 2014 Paladin to 3rd level and then the Oath of the Watchers shows in the Expanded Rules subclasses.
It shows Oath of the Watchers (TCoE) in the drop-down. It's a Tasha's subclass.
Also, make sure all of your books are synced. Just having Oath of Glory sounds like the sync is off or you disabled some of the custom toggles.
This is completely true and extremely annoying!
So after researching and wanting the players to keep some of the legacy rules, we have changed the level back to 1 (keep track of how much XP they have first), switched classes, deleted the old. Give it a sec, then change back to the original class, delete the fake class. Change the XP back to normal and the system will ask you to pick out the new stuff and you can not select any of the new requirements and it seems the character does just fine. I believe this will work for everyone to stay in true legacy rules. It works for us!
This seems way more complicated than just changing to the legacy version of the class?