The funny thing is all they'd need on the sheet & compendium is a 2014/2024/Both toggle, that way "Legacy" could be reserved for items obsoleted *within* an edition & there wouldn't be duplicate "Legacy" tags.

Make "2024" on by default if you wish. You're already duplicating the entries, they're still there in the books.

Just like, on/off switch for search & sheet:

Edition: 2014/2024

Sources: Core/Third Party/(Etc)

Legacy: On/Off

Helps future proof it if they print another book in 2024 they want to obsolete. Most of the searches already implement these toggles already.

If a sheet has both editions on just show the 2024 tool tip. If only 2014, show 2014 tooltips.

Looks like there will be lots of boycotting again.

Frankly, I am thoroughly unhappy about this change. I spent money to purchase a specific product. I expect that product to continue to be available to me. If you are not going to make 2014 spells (the product I paid for) available to use in the manner for which I purchased them, I expect a refund.

Others have explained why this make spells homebrew situation will not work, I want to re-iterate that there are only two viable options here:

1. Have a toggle for the 2014 version.

2. Offer refunds to all those who have bought spells that will be affected.

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Does WoTC hate DMs?  Because you run the company like you hate DMs. 

 
I know others have responded and this is a bit off-topic, but yeah. It's been my impression for a while now that the approach behind the 2024 rules is one in which the DM is a barely necessary or wanted evil; they're not considered another player, whose fun also matters, but someone there merely to roll dice for NPCs and monsters.

It's felt like WOTC and/or Hasbro has the goal of making DMs obsolete - or, at best, a luxury you don't really need to play and enjoy the game.

 Man I sure hope they are not working on some AI that DM's. That would be terrible ...RiGhT????

I dont get it so  if im not buying new 2024 books im losing  access to spells and magic items from 2014 book that i paid for?  what kind of bullshit is this?if this is true i need option to download books that I PAID FOR and use them as i want.

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Frankly, I am thoroughly unhappy about this change. I spent money to purchase a specific product. I expect that product to continue to be available to me. If you are not going to make 2014 spells (the product I paid for) available to use in the manner for which I purchased them, I expect a refund.

Others have explained why this make spells homebrew situation will not work, I want to re-iterate that there are only two viable options here:

1. Have a toggle for the 2014 version.

2. Offer refunds to all those who have bought spells that will be affected.

I completely agree. I paid for those 2014 rules with the expectation that I would be able to continue to use them on this platform. Are there any lawyers in the forum with thoughts on this?

Glad I am paying $60 a year for Master Tier only to lose content that I have already paid for. Guess we are moving back to paper...

P.S.To my post - I Demand a refund for stealing what i paid for. i will never buy a single thing from beyond. Long live john silver.

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I am doing my best to follow the advice of homebrewing, and it is very clear no one from WotC tried to follow their own advice before giving it.

Even if you homebrew all 2014 spells, you cannot remove the 2024 spells from the player sheet because there are spells baked in not only to the subclasses but to the classes themselves that we cannot change. The Ranger Primal Awareness feature grants spells. I cannot homebrew my way into changing them. The only workaround I have is to turn off that optional feature and replace it with a homebrewed feat, and just hope the player remembers that the Primeval Awareness feature their character sheet tells them they have is in fact a lie caused by Beyond's appalling choices.

It is not physically possible to keep a solely 2014 character sheet up on this site. It is not a case of DMs not being willing to put the work in, though those that are not willing are so valid for that; it is a case of WotC trying to tell us we can do something which is genuinely impossible.

Editing for spelling. Apologies, I've spent far too much time today copying homebrew and chasing yet more places the change is going to break things. Refusing to pay for anything from WotC ever again is one thing; I am beginning to wonder if it is worth my sanity to blacklist this site and never return.

 Amen.

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A lot of people seem to be misunderstanding what's happening (not all, but a lot). The 2014 versions of spells and magical items (and everything else) aren't disappearing completely. Their text will still be in their sourcebooks (the 2014 Basic Rules/PHB). What will be removed is their integration in character sheets. Which, to be clear, I think is quite a bad move for several reasons many people have covered here. The content itself, what you have spent money on, will still be accessible within the digital books that you'll still have access to; it isn't being "stolen" from anyone in that sense. But those spells and magic items won't be automatically integrated in the character sheets. Which, again, sucks real bad for people (like me) looking to still play with 2014 characters, but isn't the same as what some people seem to think it is.

 I bought this content because of this integration with tools. Without it, I would have stuck with the books or gone to other online sources for the content.

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I am doing my best to follow the advice of homebrewing, and it is very clear no one from WotC tried to follow their own advice before giving it.

Even if you homebrew all 2014 spells, you cannot remove the 2024 spells from the player sheet because there are spells baked in not only to the subclasses but to the classes themselves that we cannot change. The Ranger Primal Awareness feature grants spells. I cannot homebrew my way into changing them. The only workaround I have is to turn off that optional feature and replace it with a homebrewed feat, and just hope the player remembers that the Primeval Awareness feature their character sheet tells them they have is in fact a lie caused by Beyond's appalling choices.

It is not physically possible to keep a solely 2014 character sheet up on this site. It is not a case of DMs not being willing to put the work in, though those that are not willing are so valid for that; it is a case of WotC trying to tell us we can do something which is genuinely impossible.

 I'm guessing this will also apply to any class that gets an expanded spell list from Tasha's, I.e. every spellcaster I think.  It's also mentioned elsewhere that you cannot homebrew Warlock invocations, and many of them grant spells. It's looking like it'll be impossible to play using the 2014 rules.

I think the forced changes are going to push me and my group away from here, after everything it was already on thin ice, but being forced into this change has most likely done it, it's not a subtle push.

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What happens if a class feature gets changed like meta magic, Eldritch Invocations, channel divinity, etc?  Can those sorts of things be homebrewed?  

 

 Eldritch invocations cannot be homebrewed, so any that grant a spell cannot be homebrewed to use the 2014 version (and therefore you cannot play a purely 2014 warlock going forward).

Channel Divinity and Metamagic I believe are tied to the class\subclass, so I assume you'd still get the legacy version with the legacy subclass.

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Frankly, I am thoroughly unhappy about this change. I spent money to purchase a specific product. I expect that product to continue to be available to me. If you are not going to make 2014 spells (the product I paid for) available to use in the manner for which I purchased them, I expect a refund.

Others have explained why this make spells homebrew situation will not work, I want to re-iterate that there are only two viable options here:

1. Have a toggle for the 2014 version.

2. Offer refunds to all those who have bought spells that will be affected.

I completely agree. I paid for those 2014 rules with the expectation that I would be able to continue to use them on this platform. Are there any lawyers in the forum with thoughts on this?

 There is a contract lawyer who has been offering his opinions on this topic on the forums, but you would not like what he has been telling people on the forums many times today.

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Frankly, I am thoroughly unhappy about this change. I spent money to purchase a specific product. I expect that product to continue to be available to me. If you are not going to make 2014 spells (the product I paid for) available to use in the manner for which I purchased them, I expect a refund.

Others have explained why this make spells homebrew situation will not work, I want to re-iterate that there are only two viable options here:

1. Have a toggle for the 2014 version.

2. Offer refunds to all those who have bought spells that will be affected.

I completely agree. I paid for those 2014 rules with the expectation that I would be able to continue to use them on this platform. Are there any lawyers in the forum with thoughts on this?

 There is a contract lawyer who has been offering his opinions on this topic on the forums, but you would not like what he has been telling people on the forums many times today.

 can you share the link to read it? as im thinking of asking a refund because of this bs.

I pay to use DnD Beyond for easy access to content. I paid for all of the books in this platform. Surely they should have the previous version's in a legacy tab? It feels like they are taking away something we have paid for in the guise of 'updating' it.  We should have a choice!

This is poor decision coming from dndbeyond and I'm saddened this tool has gone so far off the trail of it being so user-friendly.

Wasn't tis whole bit supposed to be backwards compatible? Why are they forcing the new system onto everything then? 

I cancelled my subscription. Thanks dndbeyond!

At this point in time, it looks like it will be roll20. 

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Frankly, I am thoroughly unhappy about this change. I spent money to purchase a specific product. I expect that product to continue to be available to me. If you are not going to make 2014 spells (the product I paid for) available to use in the manner for which I purchased them, I expect a refund.

Others have explained why this make spells homebrew situation will not work, I want to re-iterate that there are only two viable options here:

1. Have a toggle for the 2014 version.

2. Offer refunds to all those who have bought spells that will be affected.

I completely agree. I paid for those 2014 rules with the expectation that I would be able to continue to use them on this platform. Are there any lawyers in the forum with thoughts on this?

 There is a contract lawyer who has been offering his opinions on this topic on the forums, but you would not like what he has been telling people on the forums many times today.

 can you share the link to read it? as im thinking of asking a refund because of this bs.

 Yes, here. Now, he is not saying 'I am a lawyer and legally this is x or y'. He does however, have a background as a contract lawyer (which he shared during the Thanos-level OGL event) that informs his opinions.

From my review of the site terms and conditions (and I very much am not a lawyer), when you signed up on this site, you agreed to the terms and conditions that let's WotC do, basically, whatever it wants with the content on the site, up to and including simply nuking the whole thing and giving you nothing but a 'thank you for the money' News Announcement. Further, this site has always been advertised as always having the most up to date 5e rules. How they choose to execute that mission to always provide the most up to date version of the rules is entirely up to WotC, with no need to gain permission from you to do it.

I am not saying that this is a good business decision, but I am saying that anyone who thinks it is a poor decision and chooses to file suit will probably do nothing but waste a lot of their own time and money, and probably just be more angry than when they started.

Also, reviewing that link that Sarahiscoffee just shared, you are getting 2024 spells for free if you previously owned the 2014 versions. That is, in my opinion, pretty neat.