I know its a bit early (August 4th 2024 at time of writing) but do we have any idea as to whether or not Multiclassing between the classes of 2014 and 2024 will be available? (Obviously not mixing two versions of the same class thats not how the game is designed in the first place.)
I'm sure DM's will feel a certain way about it on a case by case basis, but i was wondering if there's something the 2024 books will say about it and on the more technical side, if DnDBeyond electronic services will allow that type of building.
The recommendation from WotC is that, if using the 2024 PHB, you use the more recent version of an option. So, the default is that if you’re using one 2024 class, the other classes would be 2024 too (Artificer being the exception, as it hasn’t been updated yet). You can use 2014 subclasses, if they haven’t been updated. Thus, if you wanted to build a, for example, Eldritch Knight/Bladesinger using the 2024 PHB, the EK would be built using the new version. The Bladesinger would use the 2024 Wizard class and Bladesinger rules from Tasha (but would gain their level 2 subclass features at level 3 instead).
However, a DM is free to choose to allow or forbid whatever they choose at their table.
Very little has been announced about how DDB will implement the introduction of the 2024 rules and options, how far 2014 options will be preserved and how the two sets will be integrated.
I'm curious about this as well. For classes that are not in the new players handbook and subclasses that are not in the new players handbook This is going to be tricky for a few of my players for example I have a monk blood hunter who wants to upgrade their monk but obviously we can't do bloodhunter unless miraculously they let Matt Mercer do a 2024 overhaul. Obviously he can build it on paper but we're trying to stay on D&D beyond if possible
I'm curious about this as well. For classes that are not in the new players handbook and subclasses that are not in the new players handbook This is going to be tricky for a few of my players for example I have a monk blood hunter who wants to upgrade their monk but obviously we can't do bloodhunter unless miraculously they let Matt Mercer do a 2024 overhaul. Obviously he can build it on paper but we're trying to stay on D&D beyond if possible
I haven't seen the new PHB but mechanically I don't see it being a problem to play a 2024 Monk multiclassed with the current Bloodhunter, the Blood hunter features are just unchanged. I suspect you could also include any tweaks to the fighting style of the bloodhunter but if this is a problem just stick to the 2014 fighting styles.
What might be more of a problem is balance, pretty much all the classes are getting a power upgrade for 2024 so Bloodhunter and Artificer might be the least powerful classes in 2024 D&D.
@Mobi, There should be no issue (technically on DDB) multiclassing a 2024 class with a class like Artificer who isn’t in the 2024 PHB. Any subclasses not in the new PHB you will follow the guidance in the book basically if you have subclass features at levels 1 or 2, you will not get those until level 3. Same for other subclass features. When the 2024 class gets a subclass feature you gain any pre-2024 subclass features of that level or lower.
Not sure about Blood Hunter, but I don’t see why not. Does the subclass come online at level 3? I’ve never read the class. If so, play it as is with the 2024 monk
Forgive the bump, but I just ran into this issue upon purchasing the new phb. Apparently if we want 2014 subclasses, we can't benefit from any of the '24 features like weapon masteries. If I select Fighter 24, then the 2014 subclasses aren't even option despite selecting those options on the initial creation page. Ridiculously frustrating when they went on a whole press run about backwards compatibility.
Please tell me I'm dumb and just can't work out how it works now.
Forgive the bump, but I just ran into this issue upon purchasing the new phb. Apparently if we want 2014 subclasses, we can't benefit from any of the '24 features like weapon masteries. If I select Fighter 24, then the 2014 subclasses aren't even option despite selecting those options on the initial creation page. Ridiculously frustrating when they went on a whole press run about backwards compatibility.
If you have the legacy toggle on, you can use all of the WotC subclasses that weren't updated. For those that were, you must use the updated versions, which means you need access tot he new PHB.
Third-party subclasses are not available. They've said they're working with their partners to make it happen. You can also use private homebrew to make it work.
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I know its a bit early (August 4th 2024 at time of writing) but do we have any idea as to whether or not Multiclassing between the classes of 2014 and 2024 will be available? (Obviously not mixing two versions of the same class thats not how the game is designed in the first place.)
I'm sure DM's will feel a certain way about it on a case by case basis, but i was wondering if there's something the 2024 books will say about it and on the more technical side, if DnDBeyond electronic services will allow that type of building.
The recommendation from WotC is that, if using the 2024 PHB, you use the more recent version of an option. So, the default is that if you’re using one 2024 class, the other classes would be 2024 too (Artificer being the exception, as it hasn’t been updated yet). You can use 2014 subclasses, if they haven’t been updated. Thus, if you wanted to build a, for example, Eldritch Knight/Bladesinger using the 2024 PHB, the EK would be built using the new version. The Bladesinger would use the 2024 Wizard class and Bladesinger rules from Tasha (but would gain their level 2 subclass features at level 3 instead).
However, a DM is free to choose to allow or forbid whatever they choose at their table.
Very little has been announced about how DDB will implement the introduction of the 2024 rules and options, how far 2014 options will be preserved and how the two sets will be integrated.
I'm curious about this as well. For classes that are not in the new players handbook and subclasses that are not in the new players handbook This is going to be tricky for a few of my players for example I have a monk blood hunter who wants to upgrade their monk but obviously we can't do bloodhunter unless miraculously they let Matt Mercer do a 2024 overhaul. Obviously he can build it on paper but we're trying to stay on D&D beyond if possible
I haven't seen the new PHB but mechanically I don't see it being a problem to play a 2024 Monk multiclassed with the current Bloodhunter, the Blood hunter features are just unchanged. I suspect you could also include any tweaks to the fighting style of the bloodhunter but if this is a problem just stick to the 2014 fighting styles.
What might be more of a problem is balance, pretty much all the classes are getting a power upgrade for 2024 so Bloodhunter and Artificer might be the least powerful classes in 2024 D&D.
@Mobi, There should be no issue (technically on DDB) multiclassing a 2024 class with a class like Artificer who isn’t in the 2024 PHB. Any subclasses not in the new PHB you will follow the guidance in the book basically if you have subclass features at levels 1 or 2, you will not get those until level 3. Same for other subclass features. When the 2024 class gets a subclass feature you gain any pre-2024 subclass features of that level or lower.
Not sure about Blood Hunter, but I don’t see why not. Does the subclass come online at level 3? I’ve never read the class. If so, play it as is with the 2024 monk
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Forgive the bump, but I just ran into this issue upon purchasing the new phb. Apparently if we want 2014 subclasses, we can't benefit from any of the '24 features like weapon masteries. If I select Fighter 24, then the 2014 subclasses aren't even option despite selecting those options on the initial creation page. Ridiculously frustrating when they went on a whole press run about backwards compatibility.
Please tell me I'm dumb and just can't work out how it works now.
If you have the legacy toggle on, you can use all of the WotC subclasses that weren't updated. For those that were, you must use the updated versions, which means you need access tot he new PHB.
Third-party subclasses are not available. They've said they're working with their partners to make it happen. You can also use private homebrew to make it work.