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Why 3 books. Can’t we just have one?

why wouyld you say that????????????????????????

Wow, that's awesome, I'm preordering this one. I've been eyeing a campaign that uses interplanar travel for a while, but I didn't have the courage to dive into the old editions and do some spelunking!

Hard agree. I am hating the habit they're having of turning one small-ish book into 3 positively tiny books, in the context of D&D. How many of the illustrations in this one are going to be rehashed ones from previous editions, like with Spelljammer?

Whait whait.... This is not a planar guide, this is about Sigil and Outlands, why there is no info about planes themselves? 

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I do hope this one has some deeper lore presented. Spelljammer felt too light, and I want there to be enough info in this one build story hooks and adventures around. 

Perfect

I feel like they just mass produce books and advertise them with dnd beyond.

Time dragons!? A great wyrm time dragon in the past had a CR of 90, the highest CR in the game, ever.
I assume you're gonna nerf it hard, and I'm not sure if I like that or not.

Time dragons?  I'd like to see the old school Time Elementals make a come back.

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Nearly 50 bucks just for the digital.

Can y'all please start offering "Adventure not included" lower priced versions of these bundles.

I'm not a DM. I'd love to be able to know about the world and the new stuff I can use with characters I make without paying for an adventure where I'd be spoiling my own fun if I read it.

Bundling them all together for a higher price point is actually making you lose a sell here.

Offer them a-la-carte and you may actually make more money.

 

 

 You...do know you can buy all player options a la carte on Beyond already, right?

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What is Planescape: Adventures in the Multiverse?

A waste of money!

You can pay $70 or $80, maybe more, to get a three book pack in a nice slipcase with a GM screen. The only issue is… the books aren’t worth it. First of all, we have the first ever book for players that adds ZERO races or subclasses, as far as we can tell. Sure there’s some spells, two backgrounds, and a few feats, but I’d say we have plenty of those. Especially since they are all likely setting-specific like the ones in Ravnica, Strixhaven, or Eberron. Second, we get the glorious adventure. WotC can’t take us to 20th level in a 300 page book. How will they go from 3rd to 10th in 96 pages? And then a level jump to 17th? A unique idea, but I have a feeling that the reason it hasn’t been done before is because it’s relatively confusing for new players, and many old players (at least those I’ve met) prefer lower-level play. Finally, new monsters. I have no criticisms here, as long as they feel unique.

 It's not really a book for players, there are some material for players, but the book as a whole is for DMs. 

 It should be a book for players then. The reason Pathfinder has grown so much these past years is consistent releases of new content for everyone. There’s lore, spells, ancestries, classes, backgrounds, feats, monsters, new items, magic items, and often new rules in every single book. D&D is slowing down because we are getting less material for everyone. GMs are only getting adventures that contain little lore outside of what is immediately required for the adventure and players are getting setting-specific backgrounds and feats with a few spells or maybe a race to keep them happy. Out of the four announced books (one is this book set) there is a single new player option outside of backgrounds, and that is a barbarian subclass. Don’t even get me started on the magic items being offered, because they are, on average, significantly weaker than other items of their tier in the new books. I’ve always been an advocate for D&D because of its consistently growing material, but I can’t keep supporting this when the material isn’t very good. WotC took three fantastic settings (Spelljammer, Dragonlance, and Planescape) and turned them into adventures and, in the case of Spelljammer and Dragonlance, tiny “player/lore” and monster books. The lack of world lore is surprising considering the depth that can be found in Eberron, Theros, Ravnica, and Wildemount. Even Van Richten’s, Strixhaven, Baldur’s Gate, and Waterdeep have deeper and better lore included in them. Eberron, Wildemount, Van Richten’s, and even Ravnica still have excellent character options and good adventures too!

Honestly, I enjoy the three book format like Spelljammer. I can look at the campaign while looking at creatures and lore stuff seperately, just in case. 

Is this another anthology campaign like Radiant Citadel or Candlekeep? It makes sense for the City of Doors, but I hope its a connected campaign. 

Thanks for charging more for this than Spelljammer, WotC! I really look forward to having to spend $49.99 on this.... I really mean it

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Quote from LordPanzi >>

Why 3 books. Can’t we just have one?

 If it were 1, then can they really charge you the price of three to buy them? 

 Yeah, the sudden jump to $50 for a digital copy really makes me not want to get it. I loved playing Planescape: Torment back in the day, but money's tight, and it would've been easier for me to justify getting it at the old cost. Bumped up as it is, with no real evidence showing an increase in content to justify said cost? I'm probably gonna skip this one.

I really loved the 2nd Edition Planescape! Crossing my fingers for a good/great 5E port. Not sure how they will achieve that without destroying a lot of the old lore, or just flat out leaving it out. It seems that in the interest of making the game feel more inclusive, much of the darkness and violence of pre-existing lore has been dropped from other 5E updated products from previous editions. Planescape was by far one of the most sinister additions to 2nd Edition, and it was an absolute masterpiece. 

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If you **** this up I quit

 I 100,000% agree with you! I loved Planescape  back in the AD&D 2e days. I don't want another heartbreak like I got with 5e Spelljammer.

It's prettier for one. Four different cover arts (and alt cover arts)!

It's also easier to flip through shorter books and find what you're looking for.

And finally, it's useful to split up the content between Gazetteer/Setting Guide, Adventure Path, and Bestiary. If players want content from the book, they can review just the Sigil and the Outlands book, and just the player-facing chapters. But if they run into the DM's Guide-type chapters, it's not going to be nearly as problematic as them having the Bestiary or answers to the Adventure Path at their fingertips. So it's useful to split it all off.

Personally, I'd prefer 4 books - a Player's Guide to the Setting, a DM's Guide to the Setting, an Adventure Path, and a Setting Bestiary. But They tried that in 4e and eventually abandoned it because the player and DM books were competing with each other on the market. Even though now they're boxing these settings into single sale sets of all 3, if they split out the Player and DM information as I'd like they'd be reprinting a lot of setting information and just tweaking the wording and redacting elements from the Player's Guide. It's not that economical in terms of page count.

Finally, 3 books lets them get away with a smaller page count for the same price $50 price. Printing costs a lot, and during the pandemic there were supply chain issues and shortages that made printing more expensive and harder. That $50 has remained the same for the last decade since 5e launched, while inflation has made $50 less valuable. So having few pages lets them cut printing costs rather than increasing the price point for the already-oft-stretched-thin wallets of D&D players. And any content they cut? Easy, just release as a digital-only supplement. That's what they did with the Feywild book, and that's what they've done with Spelljammer and Dragonlance. I'd argue even Keys From the Golden Vault had content cut out of it and turned digital-only: the book is incredibly on-theme with Honor Among Thieves, and yet launched before the film, and when the film came out, D&D Beyond dropped for us free plug-in digital content that lets us run the film characters and situations in connection with Keys From the Golden Vault. I bet they were developed together as a movie-book tie in, but when it became clear the movie needed a later release date, and the book needed a page-count reduction, they just cut out the movie content to make into digital supplements.

I don't understand why Wizards thinks anyone at all wants new backgrounds! Backgrounds are the least interesting aspect of 5e and no one even really thinks about it beyond roleplaying. Where are the new subclasses? Those are what everyone really likes. Back a few years ago ton of subclasses were coming out with every book, and now all they have is stupid backgrounds.

3 books and basically no player options. Sucks.