Hi all, I’m not really shooting for sensational or ranting at this debacle. There are more eloquent people here who have clearly voiced the issues and concerns. I can’t see a reason to retread them. Wotc ha made clear what their direction and intent is. They will strangle the creative freedom if they can to control and keep the growth of the IP to themselves. This in the hope that they solely will profit long term. The idea that we have “won” anything seems to ring false to me. No one at Wotc is so dense they don’t already know what the community demand. Leave OGL1.a in place and intact. If they want to lock down 6e so be it. Stop trying to define products that they don’t own eg. vet’s and the comedically foolish animation clauses.
They have seen the drop in subscription and backlash and yet they persist.
so… not as individual but as a group of DM’s and player should we not be seeking better systems run by organizations that have, to date, proven more trustworthy?
Piazo and pathfinder is just one of the excellent choices out there. If we as DM’s migrate and our players follow then the creators, YouTubers and platform will as well. So if not now when? And if not now what more insult to injury is required to make it clear it’s the right choice?
An object at rest tends to stay at rest unless acted upon, etc etc. I still have all my (rather expensive!) books, and I still think they're cool and useful and beautiful. I have enough to play for a very long time without buying anything new. I haven't bought anything new since Tasha's, not out of protest, but because I simply don't need to.
The benefit of getting all my friends to convert to another game would be pretty impersonal. We'd contribute to a broad movement, in a small way. But the cost would be quite personal indeed. We'd have to convert or end ongoing campaigns, learn new rules, and buy new products. It's a hard sell.
I think the switch happens slowly, as people gradually exhaust their surplus material and experience that desire for new stuff more and more strongly. Some of them won't hold true to a boycott and will return to Wizards. The rest will subdivide according to their preferences into other fandoms. That's just how it goes.
My two regular groups have already switched actually, I'm just lingering for the principle and to see how things shake out. I was really excited for D&D this summer, had plans to make my own adventure and release it and everything, now I'm just pissed at WotC for pulling all of this nonsense.
I know for some they invest a lot of money into gaming, but for most of my friends we tend to buy over time and we already had VtM and Cyberpunk 2077 books, we just tended to prefer D&D because it was really easy to play and there's a lot of online resources for it ~ but it's also not like it's going to be hard or even cost exorbitant for us to switch to other game systems. I'm not sure if I ever actually will play D&D again at this rate, all the proprietary stuff really grinds my gears ever since Adobe screwed me over in college and switched to their whole 'cloud' model, like I want to be paying every freakin' month just to access a program that I used to own outright. Absolute insanity.
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Hi all, I’m not really shooting for sensational or ranting at this debacle. There are more eloquent people here who have clearly voiced the issues and concerns. I can’t see a reason to retread them. Wotc ha made clear what their direction and intent is. They will strangle the creative freedom if they can to control and keep the growth of the IP to themselves. This in the hope that they solely will profit long term. The idea that we have “won” anything seems to ring false to me. No one at Wotc is so dense they don’t already know what the community demand. Leave OGL1.a in place and intact. If they want to lock down 6e so be it. Stop trying to define products that they don’t own eg. vet’s and the comedically foolish animation clauses.
They have seen the drop in subscription and backlash and yet they persist.
so… not as individual but as a group of DM’s and player should we not be seeking better systems run by organizations that have, to date, proven more trustworthy?
Piazo and pathfinder is just one of the excellent choices out there. If we as DM’s migrate and our players follow then the creators, YouTubers and platform will as well.
So if not now when? And if not now what more insult to injury is required to make it clear it’s the right choice?
An object at rest tends to stay at rest unless acted upon, etc etc. I still have all my (rather expensive!) books, and I still think they're cool and useful and beautiful. I have enough to play for a very long time without buying anything new. I haven't bought anything new since Tasha's, not out of protest, but because I simply don't need to.
The benefit of getting all my friends to convert to another game would be pretty impersonal. We'd contribute to a broad movement, in a small way. But the cost would be quite personal indeed. We'd have to convert or end ongoing campaigns, learn new rules, and buy new products. It's a hard sell.
I think the switch happens slowly, as people gradually exhaust their surplus material and experience that desire for new stuff more and more strongly. Some of them won't hold true to a boycott and will return to Wizards. The rest will subdivide according to their preferences into other fandoms. That's just how it goes.
My two regular groups have already switched actually, I'm just lingering for the principle and to see how things shake out. I was really excited for D&D this summer, had plans to make my own adventure and release it and everything, now I'm just pissed at WotC for pulling all of this nonsense.
I know for some they invest a lot of money into gaming, but for most of my friends we tend to buy over time and we already had VtM and Cyberpunk 2077 books, we just tended to prefer D&D because it was really easy to play and there's a lot of online resources for it ~ but it's also not like it's going to be hard or even cost exorbitant for us to switch to other game systems. I'm not sure if I ever actually will play D&D again at this rate, all the proprietary stuff really grinds my gears ever since Adobe screwed me over in college and switched to their whole 'cloud' model, like I want to be paying every freakin' month just to access a program that I used to own outright. Absolute insanity.