So I used the manual role method of abilities determination and (after 4th attempt) received 17, 16, 15, 15, 14, 13. Will DMs accept a lvl 1 character with such an advantage or should I re-roll using a standard array or point buy?
Is everyone else in the group rolling, and will they get 4 tries to get a good set of stats? The answer to those questions, and whether you should keep the character are probably the same.
It's not cheating on its own, but it's absolutely crucial that everybody is doing it the same way, and really the DM should be present to see the rolls and decide whether a re-roll is warranted or not.
Personally I'm not a fan of rolling stats at all; while it can create greater variation, it can also just mean some characters are simply better than others, and will get more opportunity to take feats (fewer ability scores need increasing) etc.
Point buy or standard array are generally a lot more fair as everyone has the same start. That said, I would prefer if point buy went down to 6 and up to 16 for a greater range.
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I agree with all the above. The rules imply if you are rolling for stats you get 1 attempt. As an extreme example if you roll 24 ones then you character has 3 in every ability (plus racial modifiers). Many DMs house rule ifyou roll poorly, allowing either a rerool, or you to use standard array or point buy.
If you can reroll until you get something you are happy with why stop at 4 attempts get the computer to roll until you get 18 in everything!
If a DM says to roll (once) for stats but does not check the roll the stats "rolled" by the players average significantly higher than if the DM does check. Being told to roll for stats, without being told you can make multiple attempts, and rolling 4 times until you get something significantly above average is cheating (and is the like cause of the previous statement)
IMHO I think you should be allowed to roll for scores but if your point total is over 90 or under 70 you should reroll, and if one person’s using rolling, everyone does.
edit: I’m not taking racial ASIs into account in this
2nd edit: also you could reduce your total by a set amount. Normally if I get too many high rolls, I just reduce a score by like 5 or something
So I used the manual role method of abilities determination and (after 4th attempt) received 17, 16, 15, 15, 14, 13. Will DMs accept a lvl 1 character with such an advantage or should I re-roll using a standard array or point buy?
Is everyone else in the group rolling, and will they get 4 tries to get a good set of stats? The answer to those questions, and whether you should keep the character are probably the same.
It's not cheating on its own, but it's absolutely crucial that everybody is doing it the same way, and really the DM should be present to see the rolls and decide whether a re-roll is warranted or not.
Personally I'm not a fan of rolling stats at all; while it can create greater variation, it can also just mean some characters are simply better than others, and will get more opportunity to take feats (fewer ability scores need increasing) etc.
Point buy or standard array are generally a lot more fair as everyone has the same start. That said, I would prefer if point buy went down to 6 and up to 16 for a greater range.
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I agree with all the above. The rules imply if you are rolling for stats you get 1 attempt. As an extreme example if you roll 24 ones then you character has 3 in every ability (plus racial modifiers). Many DMs house rule ifyou roll poorly, allowing either a rerool, or you to use standard array or point buy.
If you can reroll until you get something you are happy with why stop at 4 attempts get the computer to roll until you get 18 in everything!
If a DM says to roll (once) for stats but does not check the roll the stats "rolled" by the players average significantly higher than if the DM does check. Being told to roll for stats, without being told you can make multiple attempts, and rolling 4 times until you get something significantly above average is cheating (and is the like cause of the previous statement)
IMHO I think you should be allowed to roll for scores but if your point total is over 90 or under 70 you should reroll, and if one person’s using rolling, everyone does.
edit: I’m not taking racial ASIs into account in this
2nd edit: also you could reduce your total by a set amount. Normally if I get too many high rolls, I just reduce a score by like 5 or something
Also, no one should have a 20 in a score at lv1. 19, maybe, if you’re extremely lucky, but no 20s