Maths and build help

Basically I’ve got a campaign soon and I made a bet with my friend about who can do most damage in a nova round(don’t worry the dm knows)

Could someone help me with the Maths what is the average damage of a samurai 5/hexblade 1 with Elven accuracy and hexblades curse up(assume action surge and the typical gwm/greatsword)?

thanks to anyone that can help

I'll assume you need to roll a ten to hit. With Elven Accuracy you have a 90ish% hit chance, or 66ish% with the minus 5 GWM penalty. That maths out to about 63-64 damage, not counting crits.

Including crits:

you have a 34.3% miss chance

38.7% normal hit chance

27ish% hit chance.

I believe this equals around 70 damage.

I might be totally off about this.

Thanks for the time. I don’t really know how difficult the campaign will be or the AC as the first session is soonwill try and say after

Thanks so much. Sounds a little but like a monster against a boss ;)

This sounds like a 2014 ruleset game.

If you want to play around with the numbers, RPGBot's DPR Calculator can handle Elven Accuracy.

If you are facing a CR 6 encounter as a level 6 character, you typically need an 8 to hit, this is the default setting. If you have a +1 weapon, you will need a 7. You will need to also change the requirement for a crit to 19.

How do you have both Great Weapon Mastery and Elven Accuracy as a level 6 character while still being an elf or half-elf to qualify for Elven Accuracy? You shouldn't get a second feat until you reach 8 in Fighter or 4 in Warlock.

Are you going to have Hex up in addition to your Hexblade's Curse?

You will miss 4.29% of the time, hit 68.61% of the time, and crit 27.1% of the time. If you have a +1 weapon, you will miss 2.7% of the time, hit 70.2% of the time, and crit 27.1% of the time. With Elven Accuracy, the +1 weapon doesn't help as much as normal. If you have a +3 stat bonus and no magic weapon, you chance to hit will be worse than expected and you will need a 9 to hit.

With a standard 8 to hit, no +1 weapon, and no Hex, and an 18 attribute, I show that Action Surge + Bonus Action is 5 attacks for 76.48 DPR. With Hex, it's 97.97 per round. Unfortunately, that would require a Bonus Action for Hex, Hexblade's Curse, and the Great Weapon Master's Bonus Attack. If you do all of that and take the -5 to hit for the +10 damage, that's 123.40 average damage per round (each hit will be doing 2D6+4+3+10+1D6 or 4D6 + 2D6 + 17 on a crit).

Edit: If you do want to keep improving DPR, a Vicious Weapon will be better than a +X weapon.

Quote from SunIsGettingRealLow96589 >>

Elven accuracy is basically 3d20, so thats a 15% chance to crit, which is 7 * 1.30 = 9.1+5 = 14 dmg per attack

hexblade curse changes your crit range from a 20 to a 19-20, which is a 30% chance to crit, 7 * 1.60 = 11.2 + 5 = 17 dmg per attack

To calculate the chance to crit with those effects, take the chance to not crit (expressed as a decimal from 0 - 1 where 0 is no chance and 1.00 is 100%). Multiply that times the number of rolls you get to make. Then subtract the result from 1.00 and multiply by 100%

• A normal non-crit chance is 0.95 (5% crit chance), with advantage that becomes 0.9025 (9.75% crit chance), and with elven advantage that becomes 0.8145 (18.55% crit chance).
• Hexblade's Curse makes that 0.90 (10% crit chance), 0.81 (19% crit chance), 0.729 (27.1% crit chance).

27.1% might be sufficiently close to 30% for "napkin math", but I wanted to add the actual numbers.

Quote from SmiteMakesRight_3_5 >>

This sounds like a 2014 ruleset game.

If you want to play around with the numbers, RPGBot's DPR Calculator can handle Elven Accuracy.

If you are facing a CR 6 encounter as a level 6 character, you typically need an 8 to hit, this is the default setting. If you have a +1 weapon, you will need a 7. You will need to also change the requirement for a crit to 19.

How do you have both Great Weapon Mastery and Elven Accuracy as a level 6 character while still being an elf or half-elf to qualify for Elven Accuracy? You shouldn't get a second feat until you reach 8 in Fighter or 4 in Warlock.

Are you going to have Hex up in addition to your Hexblade's Curse?

You will miss 4.29% of the time, hit 68.61% of the time, and crit 27.1% of the time. If you have a +1 weapon, you will miss 2.7% of the time, hit 70.2% of the time, and crit 27.1% of the time. With Elven Accuracy, the +1 weapon doesn't help as much as normal. If you have a +3 stat bonus and no magic weapon, you chance to hit will be worse than expected and you will need a 9 to hit.

With a standard 8 to hit, no +1 weapon, and no Hex, and an 18 attribute, I show that Action Surge + Bonus Action is 5 attacks for 76.48 DPR. With Hex, it's 97.97 per round. Unfortunately, that would require a Bonus Action for Hex, Hexblade's Curse, and the Great Weapon Master's Bonus Attack. If you do all of that and take the -5 to hit for the +10 damage, that's 123.40 average damage per round (each hit will be doing 2D6+4+3+10+1D6 or 4D6 + 2D6 + 17 on a crit).

Edit: If you do want to keep improving DPR, a Vicious Weapon will be better than a +X weapon.

Quote from SunIsGettingRealLow96589 >>

Elven accuracy is basically 3d20, so thats a 15% chance to crit, which is 7 * 1.30 = 9.1+5 = 14 dmg per attack

hexblade curse changes your crit range from a 20 to a 19-20, which is a 30% chance to crit, 7 * 1.60 = 11.2 + 5 = 17 dmg per attack

To calculate the chance to crit with those effects, take the chance to not crit (expressed as a decimal from 0 - 1 where 0 is no chance and 1.00 is 100%). Multiply that times the number of rolls you get to make. Then subtract the result from 1.00 and multiply by 100%

• A normal non-crit chance is 0.95 (5% crit chance), with advantage that becomes 0.9025 (9.75% crit chance), and with elven advantage that becomes 0.8145 (18.55% crit chance).
• Hexblade's Curse makes that 0.90 (10% crit chance), 0.81 (19% crit chance), 0.729 (27.1% crit chance).

27.1% might be sufficiently close to 30% for "napkin math", but I wanted to add the actual numbers.

 Starting feat from Dm, variant lineage and then a feat at lvl 4(yes our dm is very generous but he can deal with it)

Quote from EagerestSnow207 >>

Starting feat from Dm, variant lineage and then a feat at lvl 4(yes our dm is very generous but he can deal with it)

Play the game you enjoy. :D

Good luck with your bet.

Quote from SmiteMakesRight_3_5 >>

Quote from EagerestSnow207 >>

Starting feat from Dm, variant lineage and then a feat at lvl 4(yes our dm is very generous but he can deal with it)

Play the game you enjoy. :D

Good luck with your bet.

 Thanks same at you

Assuming 2014 Rules:

Baseline chance to hit is 65%, with the -5 penalty from GWM this decreases to 40%. With Advantage and Elven Accuracy we calculate it as : P(hit) = 1 - P(miss) = 1 - (1- P(hit))^3 = 78.4%

Probability of a Crit rolling one die with Hexblade's Curse = 10%, with Advantage and Elven Accuracy this increases to 27.1%

Damage on a hit : 2d6 (Greatsword) + 3 (Strength) + 3 (HexBladeCurse) + 1d8 (Hex) + 10 (GWM) = 27.5

Critical Extra Damage : 2d6 + 1d8 = 11.5

Expected damage per attack = 0.784*27.5 + 0.271*11.5 = 24.7

Multiply by 2 attacks per Action times 2 actions from Action Surge = 98.7 Nova Damage.

Thanks sounds very nasty 

Quote from Agilemind >>

Damage on a hit : 2d6 (Greatsword) + 3 (Strength) + 3 (HexBladeCurse) + 1d8 (Hex) + 10 (GWM) = 27.5

Hex is 1D6. It shouldn't have a large impact though.