No. They tried it in the playtest for the 24 rules. It didn’t go anywhere after that. I guess, never say never and all. But it seems like it had its shot and failed.
Why would you want one based on Int? If you want a Int spellcaster, wouldn't the wizard be better?
Keep it as CHA based. It makes for a better hook. ambitious but dumb. Making a deal to be a warlock is inherently pretty stupid so why would an extremely intelligent humanoid want to make that deal?
Why would you want one based on Int? If you want a Int spellcaster, wouldn't the wizard be better?
Keep it as CHA based. It makes for a better hook. ambitious but dumb. Making a deal to be a warlock is inherently pretty stupid so why would an extremely intelligent humanoid want to make that deal?
Not all warlock pacts are made with evil entities, and not all warlocks are ambitious and looking for self-gain.
A Celestial Warlock might make a pact with a Unicorn in order to have the power to go save their forest.
A young friar might make a pact with a sentient weapon they found in a church so that they can go stop a terrible demon, making them a Hexblade Warlock.
An Archfey Warlock could make a pact with Titania, the Queen of the Summer Court, who advocates selfless heroism.
Warlocks come in all shapes and sizes, so it's not an unreasonable thing from a lore standpoint to suggest a Warlock might have more intellect than charisma....it just gets clunky from a mechanical standpoint to create a class identity that can have multiple stat focuses like that. If anything like this were ever to make it into the books, it would likely be in the form of a specific subclass.
Character 7706 that’s kind of like asking why would you ever want to play a dexterity fighter when strength does more damage. Some people like playing clever characters some just like options. It’s stupid and I think that warlocks should be allowed to use wis,charisma or int. also many people make bad decisions despite being clever nowadays. Sorry if any of this comes across bad don’t mean it in a negative way but I am a strong believer of choosing any of wis,int or charisma for warlocks
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And you run, and you run
To catch up with the sun, but it’s sinking
And racingaround
To come up behind you again
The sun is the same in a relative way
But you’re older
Shorter of Breath
And one day closer to death
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that’s kind of like asking why would you ever want to play a dexterity fighter when strength does more damage.
I disagree with that statement. Switching to Int or wis will in no way limit the effectiveness of a warlock spell. Your example of a dex fighter vice a str fighter is not valid. In addition a dex fighter can trade other aspects of combat pro/con points to be effective. That +/- tradeoff is not a point concerning the choice/use of int/wis/cha.
some just like options.
Agreed and we have bards/sorcerers that use CHA
Wizards that use INT, and clerics/rangers/paladins that use wis.
If someone is really keyed about using a different ability for a class main ability, that is what homebrew is all about. Talk to the DM about the change.
But having limits is also good. Following traditional paths is also a goods thing.
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Or even a "Charisma or Intelligence" option?
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No.
They tried it in the playtest for the 24 rules. It didn’t go anywhere after that. I guess, never say never and all. But it seems like it had its shot and failed.
Why would you want one based on Int? If you want a Int spellcaster, wouldn't the wizard be better?
Keep it as CHA based. It makes for a better hook. ambitious but dumb. Making a deal to be a warlock is inherently pretty stupid so why would an extremely intelligent humanoid want to make that deal?
Not all warlock pacts are made with evil entities, and not all warlocks are ambitious and looking for self-gain.
A Celestial Warlock might make a pact with a Unicorn in order to have the power to go save their forest.
A young friar might make a pact with a sentient weapon they found in a church so that they can go stop a terrible demon, making them a Hexblade Warlock.
An Archfey Warlock could make a pact with Titania, the Queen of the Summer Court, who advocates selfless heroism.
Warlocks come in all shapes and sizes, so it's not an unreasonable thing from a lore standpoint to suggest a Warlock might have more intellect than charisma....it just gets clunky from a mechanical standpoint to create a class identity that can have multiple stat focuses like that. If anything like this were ever to make it into the books, it would likely be in the form of a specific subclass.
Character 7706 that’s kind of like asking why would you ever want to play a dexterity fighter when strength does more damage. Some people like playing clever characters some just like options. It’s stupid and I think that warlocks should be allowed to use wis,charisma or int. also many people make bad decisions despite being clever nowadays. Sorry if any of this comes across bad don’t mean it in a negative way but I am a strong believer of choosing any of wis,int or charisma for warlocks
And you run, and you run
To catch up with the sun, but it’s sinking
And racing around
To come up behind you again
The sun is the same in a relative way
But you’re older
Shorter of Breath
And one day closer to death
currently in love with redesigning subclasses send me a message and I will try
I disagree with that statement. Switching to Int or wis will in no way limit the effectiveness of a warlock spell. Your example of a dex fighter vice a str fighter is not valid. In addition a dex fighter can trade other aspects of combat pro/con points to be effective. That +/- tradeoff is not a point concerning the choice/use of int/wis/cha.
Agreed and we have bards/sorcerers that use CHA
Wizards that use INT, and clerics/rangers/paladins that use wis.
If someone is really keyed about using a different ability for a class main ability, that is what homebrew is all about. Talk to the DM about the change.
But having limits is also good. Following traditional paths is also a goods thing.