So, if it's not a discount, wouldn't that then mean that DDB and the physical PHB aren't the same thing twice?
Because if they are the same thing, and DDB is cheaper, wouldn't that be a discount? If they are different products at different prices, then DDB is just less than the physical.
And if they are completely different products at different prices, then buying one wouldn't entitle me to a discount of the other.
You're falsely assuming it is binary, that the two products must either be the same or not the same. Both are true. They are two different products with parts that are the same.
Have you seen anything that specifies that licensed content purchased via D&D Beyond carrying a different MSRP from WOTC? You can interpret "discount" vs. "less than" until you're blue in the face, but it really has no relevance at all to "fact".
I don't understand the first sentence asking the question. But yes I agree that the definition of discount is irrelevant. The things you guys choose to focus on I find surprising. Let's say both situations are correct "discounts" ... so what? I'm still just saying it should be one way because that way uses a content purchased registry which we know we all like (btw, Barbarulo's example is fitting but it misses the main thing which is use of the content purchased registry). I don't understand the opposition. Do you(plural) like that DDB does content purchased registry or not? If you do, why wouldn't you want it to be used in this case?
The opposition, is that many of us don't agree that the DDB version of the PHB should be further discounted than it already is, regardless of whether or not such a thing is possible.
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You don't OWN your books on DDB: WotC can change them any time. What do you think will happen when OneD&D comes out?
The opposition, is that many of us don't agree that the DDB version of the PHB should be further discounted than it already is, regardless of whether or not such a thing is possible.
So in Barbulo's example if there was a content purchased registry verification instead of an honor system check box, would that be against what you agree with?
And TBH I love extra discounts. I try as often as possible to win Legendary Bundles during the livestream. I just don't think I'm owed an additional discount.
And TBH I love extra discounts. I try as often as possible to win Legendary Bundles during the livestream. I just don't think I'm owed an additional discount.
It's not that I think it's owed to me. If I've bought a physical version of the content and I now want to use it with the Character sheet to me it feels like a kick in the pants to have to pay for more than just the Character Sheet. It's not illegal or out of their rights, but it still makes me feel taken advantage of.
Getting back on track though, anyone want to answer those questions from before?
Do you(plural) like that DDB does content purchased registry or not? If you do, why wouldn't you want it to be used in this case?
It's not that I think it's owed to me. If I've bought a physical version of the content and I now want to use it with the Character sheet to me it feels like a kick in the pants to have to pay for more than just the Character Sheet. It's not illegal or out of their rights, but it still makes me feel taken advantage of.
That is not what you have been asking for, as that is already provided and you have been asking for more than what is already provided.
It's not that I think it's owed to me. If I've bought a physical version of the content and I now want to use it with the Character sheet to me it feels like a kick in the pants to have to pay for more than just the Character Sheet. It's not illegal or out of their rights, but it still makes me feel taken advantage of.
That is not what you have been asking for, as that is already provided and you have been asking for more than what is already provided.
Huh? This is what I've been asking for. I've been asking for a content purchased registry so that when I want to use the PHB with the Character Sheet I can qualify for a discount for having already purchased the content in another form. That is not already provided.
How does being a product imply different parts? Plenty of things that are products are made up of only one part.
Product like multiplication.
Again focusing on interesting parts. It would be great if someone would answer something related to the following:
Do you(plural) like that DDB does content purchased registry or not? If you do, why wouldn't you want it to be used in this case?
So in Barbulo's example if there was a content purchased registry verification instead of an honor system check box, would that be against what you agree with?
It's not that I think it's owed to me. If I've bought a physical version of the content and I now want to use it with the Character sheet to me it feels like a kick in the pants to have to pay for more than just the Character Sheet. It's not illegal or out of their rights, but it still makes me feel taken advantage of.
That is not what you have been asking for, as that is already provided and you have been asking for more than what is already provided.
Huh? This is what I've been asking for. I've been asking for a content purchased registry so that when I want to use the PHB with the Character Sheet I can qualify for a discount for having already purchased the content in another form. That is not already provided.
Your two statements, both of which I am quoting here, are two separate requests. The top quote is provided already. The bottom one is not.
It's not that I think it's owed to me. If I've bought a physical version of the content and I now want to use it with the Character sheet to me it feels like a kick in the pants to have to pay for more than just the Character Sheet. It's not illegal or out of their rights, but it still makes me feel taken advantage of.
That is not what you have been asking for, as that is already provided and you have been asking for more than what is already provided.
Huh? This is what I've been asking for. I've been asking for a content purchased registry so that when I want to use the PHB with the Character Sheet I can qualify for a discount for having already purchased the content in another form. That is not already provided.
Your two statements, both of which I am quoting herr, are two separate requests. The top quote is provided already. The bottom one is not.
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This purchase unlocks the entire contents of the book version for use with D&D Beyond, including the adventure in digital format in the game compendium and access to all the adventure’s options in the searchable listings, character builder, and digital sheet.
The compendium is included in the purchase. The content is in the compendium. The content is in the physical book. What I'm asking for in either case is not provided.
You're repeating one of the requests, what I'm pointing out is that you replaced it with a different request that is already provided.
To be clear, this was that request:
"If I've bought a physical version of the content and I now want to use it with the Character sheet to me it feels like a kick in the pants to have to pay for more than just the Character Sheet."
You're repeating one of the requests, what I'm pointing out is that you replaced it with a different request that is already provided.
To be clear, this was that request:
"If I've bought a physical version of the content and I now want to use it with the Character sheet to me it feels like a kick in the pants to have to pay for more than just the Character Sheet."
Not in a normal quote as I'm on a phone.
How is that provided? If you want to use the Character Sheet with the contents of a book you have to pay for the contents of the book as described in my quote from the marketplace. Unless there is an option I don't know about where you can pay just to have access to content you've already purchased via the Character Sheet? (don't say homebrew because that is not what I just described)
Whether or not you choose to use the provided feature is irrelevant to the fact that it is provided. You have been given the means, it is entirely on you and not DDB or WOTC if you choose not to use it.
But that's the last I'm going to participate in this conversation again, honestly shouldn't have fed this repetitive cycle of yours in the first place.
If you want to use the character sheet provided by DDB you have to purchase the content on DDB. Curse and WotC are separate companies.
Access to the same Digital content is not provided, or guaranteed strictly from purchasing physical media with the same content. You don't get a discount on a movie purchased through Amazon if you already own the Blu-Ray. You don't get a discount on Comixology for buying physical comic books.
DDB's content registry covers their product which is digital versions (and basic automation thereof) of WotC's published DnD Material. Curse receives zero dollars from a book purchased at your local gaming chop, or any online book retailers. Why should they provide a discount?
1) DDB's PHB compendium is not discounted because of having bought the same content already though. The $500 bundle could be discounted because it is known that you bought the physical AND the digital content. It could be further discounted from the DDB compendium price for that adventure module.
2) The digital can't be a discount off the physical. To me, that's not a discount. A discount is like a senior citizen, military, family friends discount where the store recognizes you as a qualifying customer for the discount and gives you a % off the same exact transaction. What you're describing is not a discount imo.
Even still, what's the goal of all these comebacks? Are you(plural) trying to maintain the stance that you can label people getting merged here as entitled or flawed in some way because they thought the digital compendium content might be included in the purchase of the physical copy because they contain the same content? Are you trying to say that the content purchased registry is flawed (even though DDB uses it)? For example, in point 1. you focus on the truth that you don't buy the content. That doesn't change the fact that you have to have to pay for it twice. The difference between "purchasing the content" and "paying for the content" is such a pointless thing to focus on. It's true, but it doesn't refute anything. None of these comebacks do.
3) So people come here asking, "Hey I purchased the PHB book, does that include the compendium content here?" We respond "No it doesn't." but we don't add "Why would you ever think that? That's ridiculous to think it would be included. You're entitled." because if they had just asked the same question replacing PHB with $500 Waterdeep Dragon Heist Platinum Edition we would say, "Yes. Here's a link to the redemption key page." Just because they are different things from different companies they still have overlapping content so it's not ridiculous to think that a content purchased registry is in place (or should be in place) at a WotC level that would allow for a discount.
4) Again a great point but still irrelevant for me. This goes back to my confidence in the purchase. I don't think it's necessary to take it further into morality or philosophy, but I can say how that makes me feel about some of my purchases, regret. The fact that it's all legal doesn't do anything to resolve the issues. Legality is beside the point.
So I tried to combine several of your posts that generally said the same thing. I am trying to answer each one in a thoughtful manor that will make sense.
1r) We cannot know this for sure…or at all, so to sit here and argue this is a moot, speculative worthless argument and should not be used to defend or argue for any such thing as combined or discounted products just because both version are combined for purchased. For all we know, they paid full price for both the physical and redemption key from DDB and got a low cost on the other products to cover the rest or they got a discount on the physical and paid full for the DDB. It is funny how stupidly inexpensive things can get when manufactured in china.
2r) You are the one who keeps insisting it is the same content, so therefore the compendium version must have the same starting value and the same value overall. So therefore we can extrapolate that the digital compendium version does indeed cost less than the physical (and since it is the same content, it is discounted, though I respect your opinion, I feel it is wrong and that is Ok). However, I have to agree that the DDB version is not the same since it includes the tools, only the compendium version can be used in this relationship as they both have the same usefulness when compared to the character sheet. We used to label them, but we were told it is rude and offensive so we stopped and became civil so we could have an intelligent conversation. Usually it is the person getting merged who refuses to read what has been written before they got merged that may answer their question and get upset. Once again, we point out that nowhere in their purchase of the physical book did it imply, mention, offer or whatever else, that they would get the compendium or any other digital DDB version for free or at a reduced or discounted price beyond what is already advertised.
3r) Again, We actually did say that to people, but it was pointed out how rude it is so we stopped. So what you really want is for WotC to jack up the MSRP of the physical books so they can include a single use code to DDB for the same compendium product? Because that is all that this $500 Waterdeep Dragon Heist Platinum Edition is doing. And sorry, once again, it is not WotC doing it, all the company did was buy a redemption key to DDB that uses a single product code to get it. Any two vendors could do this, there is nothing special about this and does not support what you want. And besides, that $500 Waterdeep Dragon Heist Platinum Edition is ADVERTISED to have this as part of the PURCHASE, no other physical product does. Even if Amazon started doing this, it would still be a RETAILER to RETAILER relationship and not a PUBLISHER to RETAILER one. Heck, even your tiny B&M could work up a deal with DDB and include a giftcard to DDB if they wanted to include it with a purchase. But that wouldn’t mean you could go to a different B&M and demand they do the same thing or get the product cheaper there because they do not have the giftcard. Ahh, the registry… The purchase registry was developed and is being used by DDB exclusively. I really do not care that they use it since I purchase the whole book at a time, which unlocks it for me to use digitally. WotC does not care about it because they had no development of it and it is an internal proprietary software to DDB. I am sure Roll20 and FG wish they could see it, but I am certain they have a similar database that shows what their customer have purchased for use as well. So I am not sure why you are making a fuss about it in the first place. Lots of company’s use a database to track what their customers purchase. It is nothing magical or secret. And the fact that you want WotC to have this database and interfere with a separate company’s business is beyond me, this is like me wanting to control your finances and business and telling you how much you can make or spend. If WotC wants to give out a discount, that is on them and not DDB, roll20 or FG. I know you want this to happen, but i do not see it happening currently.
4r) I will admit, this is where I will probably lose you if i have not already, and honestly, I may get in trouble and if I do, I apologize, that is not my intent. I want to say this as nicely, but as bluntly as I can so we both understand what I am about to say with no hard feelings or misinterpretations. Your confidence in your purchases is a personal thing, it really only matters to one person, you. Therefore, I could not care less about your confidence in your purchases or if you have regrets about it. Usually when I hear that, all I can think of is that either the buyer was not informed and understood how a product is used, or they decided later that they changed their mind on what they wanted. I assure you, I also have had regrets and decided to become a better informed buyer. I still make mistakes because of impulse buys, however, I purchased into DDB with my eyes wide open because I read here on the forums and asked to make sure I knew how it worked. I know that at any point, DDB could go belly up and I will lose my investment 100%, I know that I may sit at a table and have to worry about offline use, or WotC could come out with D&D 6e in the next year making it all useless. I still bought in knowing what the product is, how it works, and how I could use it for my gaming. This matters nothing to anyone else but me. If you have that low of confidence of WotC being around, of a new version being released, or of DDB being around, then this may not be the hobby for you, and this medium is defiantly is not the one for you. just fyi, Roll20 and FG could suffer the same things. So no, I do not want to hear about your confidence in your purchase. I have confidence in mine and these guys as well.
If you are still with me I thank you, and now I would like to present to you a different line of thought. All I ask is that you keep an open mind and think it through. Since you cannot purchase the content and we both agree that it is indeed the same content on both mediums, then instead let’s focus on the medium. You bought the paper at price X, now you are purchasing the digital at price Y. the difference is the medium and the hard work each product had go into it and that is what you are buying, the content is only licensed for personal use either way. So in my example i will use Amazon's price since that is the lowest physical book cost at $29.99. Of that, lets say that the book costs $19.99 and you are paying a $10.00 license fee to reach this price point, but to keep it simple and not have everyone argue, we just say it is $29.99. Now DDB's cost is $19.99, of that, you are paying $9.99 for the digital medium and again $10.00 for the license...but how do we know that? for all we know, DDB is saying that the cost should be $29.99, but we are removing the $10 license fee since most of the folks probably already have the physical book anyways and just charge you the $19.99 it cost to make it? There is your discount because as agreed the content is the same so therefore the value must be the same and you do not pay for content, only license it. If you want the addon to use it with the character sheet, then that add on is $10, but instead of just stating it that way, we will bundle it and show it as a price of $29.99, which gives you a heck of a lot more for the same price of the physical. Honestly there is no way to argue this, same as the $500 bundle as no one knows the terms of the agreements or true costs. you can speculate all you want, but you just as well fart in the wind for all the good it will do. you will get the same result.
You're repeating one of the requests, what I'm pointing out is that you replaced it with a different request that is already provided.
To be clear, this was that request:
"If I've bought a physical version of the content and I now want to use it with the Character sheet to me it feels like a kick in the pants to have to pay for more than just the Character Sheet."
Not in a normal quote as I'm on a phone.
How is that provided? If you want to use the Character Sheet with the contents of a book you have to pay for the contents of the book as described in my quote from the marketplace. Unless there is an option I don't know about where you can pay just to have access to content you've already purchased via the Character Sheet? (don't say homebrew because that is not what I just described)
I agree it is not provided how you want, but no where does it say in your physical book that you would have access to it either. So to use it, you will have to pay an extra $19.99 on top of the $10 cost of the tools to buy the digital version of the book and then everything just works.
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I just want to tell everyone "happy gaming" and actually mean it. Whatever your game is, just have fun with it, it is after all, just a game.
So, if it's not a discount, wouldn't that then mean that DDB and the physical PHB aren't the same thing twice?
Because if they are the same thing, and DDB is cheaper, wouldn't that be a discount? If they are different products at different prices, then DDB is just less than the physical.
And if they are completely different products at different prices, then buying one wouldn't entitle me to a discount of the other.
You're falsely assuming it is binary, that the two products must either be the same or not the same. Both are true. They are two different products with parts that are the same.
Have you seen anything that specifies that licensed content purchased via D&D Beyond carrying a different MSRP from WOTC? You can interpret "discount" vs. "less than" until you're blue in the face, but it really has no relevance at all to "fact".
I don't understand the first sentence asking the question. But yes I agree that the definition of discount is irrelevant. The things you guys choose to focus on I find surprising. Let's say both situations are correct "discounts" ... so what? I'm still just saying it should be one way because that way uses a content purchased registry which we know we all like (btw, Barbarulo's example is fitting but it misses the main thing which is use of the content purchased registry). I don't understand the opposition. Do you(plural) like that DDB does content purchased registry or not? If you do, why wouldn't you want it to be used in this case?
So that makes them different as any part that is not the same makes them inheritable different and even though parts of them are the same, you can still charge for the difference which is what DDB is doing, in this case, the fact that the medium is different. IF you want to argue, go ask RedHat how they can charge for an OS based on the OPGL.
as I stated before, i do not care about the 'content purchased registry' aka database. What does that have to do with anything? a ton of companies use them, so what? In what case do you want it to be used? by WotC so they can tell other companies how to run their business, fine, let me run your financial accounts for you and see if you like it.
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I just want to tell everyone "happy gaming" and actually mean it. Whatever your game is, just have fun with it, it is after all, just a game.
You're falsely assuming it is binary, that the two products must either be the same or not the same. Both are true. They are two different products with parts that are the same.
I don't understand the first sentence asking the question. But yes I agree that the definition of discount is irrelevant. The things you guys choose to focus on I find surprising. Let's say both situations are correct "discounts" ... so what? I'm still just saying it should be one way because that way uses a content purchased registry which we know we all like (btw, Barbarulo's example is fitting but it misses the main thing which is use of the content purchased registry). I don't understand the opposition. Do you(plural) like that DDB does content purchased registry or not? If you do, why wouldn't you want it to be used in this case?
The opposition, is that many of us don't agree that the DDB version of the PHB should be further discounted than it already is, regardless of whether or not such a thing is possible.
You don't OWN your books on DDB: WotC can change them any time. What do you think will happen when OneD&D comes out?
So in Barbulo's example if there was a content purchased registry verification instead of an honor system check box, would that be against what you agree with?
Similar parts is irrelevant. They are different products.
And TBH I love extra discounts. I try as often as possible to win Legendary Bundles during the livestream. I just don't think I'm owed an additional discount.
The word product implies that it is made up of different parts. I think they are relevant. But this puts us in a "nuh uh" "yuh huh" situation.
It's not that I think it's owed to me. If I've bought a physical version of the content and I now want to use it with the Character sheet to me it feels like a kick in the pants to have to pay for more than just the Character Sheet. It's not illegal or out of their rights, but it still makes me feel taken advantage of.
Getting back on track though, anyone want to answer those questions from before?
That is not what you have been asking for, as that is already provided and you have been asking for more than what is already provided.
How does being a product imply different parts? Plenty of things that are products are made up of only one part.
Huh? This is what I've been asking for. I've been asking for a content purchased registry so that when I want to use the PHB with the Character Sheet I can qualify for a discount for having already purchased the content in another form. That is not already provided.
Product like multiplication.
Again focusing on interesting parts. It would be great if someone would answer something related to the following:
Your two statements, both of which I am quoting here, are two separate requests. The top quote is provided already. The bottom one is not.
From the marketplace
The compendium is included in the purchase. The content is in the compendium. The content is in the physical book. What I'm asking for in either case is not provided.
You're repeating one of the requests, what I'm pointing out is that you replaced it with a different request that is already provided.
To be clear, this was that request:
"If I've bought a physical version of the content and I now want to use it with the Character sheet to me it feels like a kick in the pants to have to pay for more than just the Character Sheet."
Not in a normal quote as I'm on a phone.
How is that provided? If you want to use the Character Sheet with the contents of a book you have to pay for the contents of the book as described in my quote from the marketplace. Unless there is an option I don't know about where you can pay just to have access to content you've already purchased via the Character Sheet? (don't say homebrew because that is not what I just described)
Whether or not you choose to use the provided feature is irrelevant to the fact that it is provided. You have been given the means, it is entirely on you and not DDB or WOTC if you choose not to use it.
But that's the last I'm going to participate in this conversation again, honestly shouldn't have fed this repetitive cycle of yours in the first place.
It's not about choice, it's about matching the description or not which it doesn't.
Still waiting for anyone to answer the questions.
If you want to use the character sheet provided by DDB you have to purchase the content on DDB. Curse and WotC are separate companies.
Access to the same Digital content is not provided, or guaranteed strictly from purchasing physical media with the same content. You don't get a discount on a movie purchased through Amazon if you already own the Blu-Ray. You don't get a discount on Comixology for buying physical comic books.
DDB's content registry covers their product which is digital versions (and basic automation thereof) of WotC's published DnD Material. Curse receives zero dollars from a book purchased at your local gaming chop, or any online book retailers. Why should they provide a discount?
So I tried to combine several of your posts that generally said the same thing. I am trying to answer each one in a thoughtful manor that will make sense.
1r) We cannot know this for sure…or at all, so to sit here and argue this is a moot, speculative worthless argument and should not be used to defend or argue for any such thing as combined or discounted products just because both version are combined for purchased. For all we know, they paid full price for both the physical and redemption key from DDB and got a low cost on the other products to cover the rest or they got a discount on the physical and paid full for the DDB. It is funny how stupidly inexpensive things can get when manufactured in china.
2r) You are the one who keeps insisting it is the same content, so therefore the compendium version must have the same starting value and the same value overall. So therefore we can extrapolate that the digital compendium version does indeed cost less than the physical (and since it is the same content, it is discounted, though I respect your opinion, I feel it is wrong and that is Ok). However, I have to agree that the DDB version is not the same since it includes the tools, only the compendium version can be used in this relationship as they both have the same usefulness when compared to the character sheet.
We used to label them, but we were told it is rude and offensive so we stopped and became civil so we could have an intelligent conversation. Usually it is the person getting merged who refuses to read what has been written before they got merged that may answer their question and get upset. Once again, we point out that nowhere in their purchase of the physical book did it imply, mention, offer or whatever else, that they would get the compendium or any other digital DDB version for free or at a reduced or discounted price beyond what is already advertised.
3r) Again, We actually did say that to people, but it was pointed out how rude it is so we stopped. So what you really want is for WotC to jack up the MSRP of the physical books so they can include a single use code to DDB for the same compendium product? Because that is all that this $500 Waterdeep Dragon Heist Platinum Edition is doing. And sorry, once again, it is not WotC doing it, all the company did was buy a redemption key to DDB that uses a single product code to get it. Any two vendors could do this, there is nothing special about this and does not support what you want. And besides, that $500 Waterdeep Dragon Heist Platinum Edition is ADVERTISED to have this as part of the PURCHASE, no other physical product does. Even if Amazon started doing this, it would still be a RETAILER to RETAILER relationship and not a PUBLISHER to RETAILER one. Heck, even your tiny B&M could work up a deal with DDB and include a giftcard to DDB if they wanted to include it with a purchase. But that wouldn’t mean you could go to a different B&M and demand they do the same thing or get the product cheaper there because they do not have the giftcard.
Ahh, the registry… The purchase registry was developed and is being used by DDB exclusively. I really do not care that they use it since I purchase the whole book at a time, which unlocks it for me to use digitally. WotC does not care about it because they had no development of it and it is an internal proprietary software to DDB. I am sure Roll20 and FG wish they could see it, but I am certain they have a similar database that shows what their customer have purchased for use as well. So I am not sure why you are making a fuss about it in the first place. Lots of company’s use a database to track what their customers purchase. It is nothing magical or secret. And the fact that you want WotC to have this database and interfere with a separate company’s business is beyond me, this is like me wanting to control your finances and business and telling you how much you can make or spend. If WotC wants to give out a discount, that is on them and not DDB, roll20 or FG. I know you want this to happen, but i do not see it happening currently.
4r) I will admit, this is where I will probably lose you if i have not already, and honestly, I may get in trouble and if I do, I apologize, that is not my intent. I want to say this as nicely, but as bluntly as I can so we both understand what I am about to say with no hard feelings or misinterpretations.
Your confidence in your purchases is a personal thing, it really only matters to one person, you. Therefore, I could not care less about your confidence in your purchases or if you have regrets about it. Usually when I hear that, all I can think of is that either the buyer was not informed and understood how a product is used, or they decided later that they changed their mind on what they wanted.
I assure you, I also have had regrets and decided to become a better informed buyer. I still make mistakes because of impulse buys, however, I purchased into DDB with my eyes wide open because I read here on the forums and asked to make sure I knew how it worked. I know that at any point, DDB could go belly up and I will lose my investment 100%, I know that I may sit at a table and have to worry about offline use, or WotC could come out with D&D 6e in the next year making it all useless. I still bought in knowing what the product is, how it works, and how I could use it for my gaming. This matters nothing to anyone else but me. If you have that low of confidence of WotC being around, of a new version being released, or of DDB being around, then this may not be the hobby for you, and this medium is defiantly is not the one for you. just fyi, Roll20 and FG could suffer the same things. So no, I do not want to hear about your confidence in your purchase. I have confidence in mine and these guys as well.
If you are still with me I thank you, and now I would like to present to you a different line of thought. All I ask is that you keep an open mind and think it through. Since you cannot purchase the content and we both agree that it is indeed the same content on both mediums, then instead let’s focus on the medium. You bought the paper at price X, now you are purchasing the digital at price Y. the difference is the medium and the hard work each product had go into it and that is what you are buying, the content is only licensed for personal use either way.
So in my example i will use Amazon's price since that is the lowest physical book cost at $29.99. Of that, lets say that the book costs $19.99 and you are paying a $10.00 license fee to reach this price point, but to keep it simple and not have everyone argue, we just say it is $29.99. Now DDB's cost is $19.99, of that, you are paying $9.99 for the digital medium and again $10.00 for the license...but how do we know that? for all we know, DDB is saying that the cost should be $29.99, but we are removing the $10 license fee since most of the folks probably already have the physical book anyways and just charge you the $19.99 it cost to make it? There is your discount because as agreed the content is the same so therefore the value must be the same and you do not pay for content, only license it. If you want the addon to use it with the character sheet, then that add on is $10, but instead of just stating it that way, we will bundle it and show it as a price of $29.99, which gives you a heck of a lot more for the same price of the physical. Honestly there is no way to argue this, same as the $500 bundle as no one knows the terms of the agreements or true costs. you can speculate all you want, but you just as well fart in the wind for all the good it will do. you will get the same result.
I just want to tell everyone "happy gaming" and actually mean it. Whatever your game is, just have fun with it, it is after all, just a game.
I agree it is not provided how you want, but no where does it say in your physical book that you would have access to it either. So to use it, you will have to pay an extra $19.99 on top of the $10 cost of the tools to buy the digital version of the book and then everything just works.
I just want to tell everyone "happy gaming" and actually mean it. Whatever your game is, just have fun with it, it is after all, just a game.
So that makes them different as any part that is not the same makes them inheritable different and even though parts of them are the same, you can still charge for the difference which is what DDB is doing, in this case, the fact that the medium is different. IF you want to argue, go ask RedHat how they can charge for an OS based on the OPGL.
as I stated before, i do not care about the 'content purchased registry' aka database. What does that have to do with anything? a ton of companies use them, so what? In what case do you want it to be used? by WotC so they can tell other companies how to run their business, fine, let me run your financial accounts for you and see if you like it.
I just want to tell everyone "happy gaming" and actually mean it. Whatever your game is, just have fun with it, it is after all, just a game.
No one here is going to change Kreakdude's mind. They have decided they want X, and nothing less.
You don't OWN your books on DDB: WotC can change them any time. What do you think will happen when OneD&D comes out?