Also, we need an arcane caster. We got a cleric, a pally, a monk, and a swordsman, but no wiz/lock/sorc.
Dragonborn reach maturity at age 15, but yeah... maybe lvl 18 after four years is a bit fast (being 4.5 levels a year)
I don't have a problem upping his age if it's too unrealistic (what would be more plausible?)
at the same time, there are groups like Vox Machina where they're characters are in the upper teens for levels and have been adventuring for (in game) a couple years (and the most of the characters are aged somewhere between 20-30)
I suppose the real question would be what was Shesha up to before this to grow that quickly? (still, won't argue if it's deemed that 19 years old is pushing it)
Also, we need an arcane caster. We got a cleric, a pally, a monk, and a swordsman, but no wiz/lock/sorc.
Dragonborn reach maturity at age 15, but yeah... maybe lvl 18 after four years is a bit fast (being 4.5 levels a year)
I don't have a problem upping his age if it's too unrealistic (what would be more plausible?)
at the same time, there are groups like Vox Machina where they're characters are in the upper teens for levels and have been adventuring for (in game) a couple years (and the most of the characters are aged somewhere between 20-30)
I suppose the real question would be what was Shesha up to before this to grow that quickly? (still, won't argue if it's deemed that 19 years old is pushing it)
For some classes, it makes perfect sense to be ultra-high level at a young age. I'm not entirely sure that paladin is one of them, but I'm willing to listen to any explanation you might have.
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Also, we need an arcane caster. We got a cleric, a pally, a monk, and a swordsman, but no wiz/lock/sorc.
Dragonborn reach maturity at age 15, but yeah... maybe lvl 18 after four years is a bit fast (being 4.5 levels a year)
I don't have a problem upping his age if it's too unrealistic (what would be more plausible?)
at the same time, there are groups like Vox Machina where they're characters are in the upper teens for levels and have been adventuring for (in game) a couple years (and the most of the characters are aged somewhere between 20-30)
I suppose the real question would be what was Shesha up to before this to grow that quickly? (still, won't argue if it's deemed that 19 years old is pushing it)
For some classes, it makes perfect sense to be ultra-high level at a young age. I'm not entirely sure that paladin is one of them, but I'm willing to listen to any explanation you might have.
As a member of the Church of Tyr, I'd imagine that Shesha would set out to see justice done as soon as possible and would probably have had, to some degree, the goal of joining either the Knights of the Merciful Sword or the Knights of Holy Judgment (and then potentially further recruited to the Hammers of Grimjaws). With that as a goal, add in that Dragonborn "tend to extremes," he would have gone out of his way to seek out injustices to right and following through with the Tenet of Compassion that the Oath of Devotion carries would likely have put him in the path of numerous raiding parties and other nefarious groups. So, if he spent those four years after leaving the church where he was raised in near constant combat with the world's injustice, it could be plausible that he'd reach level 18 in four years.
But, if that's not quite enough, we can tweak it or, like I said earlier, I have no issue aging him up some more (maybe mid-twenties/early-thirties?)
Also, we need an arcane caster. We got a cleric, a pally, a monk, and a swordsman, but no wiz/lock/sorc.
Dragonborn reach maturity at age 15, but yeah... maybe lvl 18 after four years is a bit fast (being 4.5 levels a year)
I don't have a problem upping his age if it's too unrealistic (what would be more plausible?)
at the same time, there are groups like Vox Machina where they're characters are in the upper teens for levels and have been adventuring for (in game) a couple years (and the most of the characters are aged somewhere between 20-30)
I suppose the real question would be what was Shesha up to before this to grow that quickly? (still, won't argue if it's deemed that 19 years old is pushing it)
For some classes, it makes perfect sense to be ultra-high level at a young age. I'm not entirely sure that paladin is one of them, but I'm willing to listen to any explanation you might have.
As a member of the Church of Tyr, I'd imagine that Shesha would set out to see justice done as soon as possible and would probably have had, to some degree, the goal of joining either the Knights of the Merciful Sword or the Knights of Holy Judgment (and then potentially further recruited to the Hammers of Grimjaws). With that as a goal, add in that Dragonborn "tend to extremes," he would have gone out of his way to seek out injustices to right and following through with the Tenet of Compassion that the Oath of Devotion carries would likely have put him in the path of numerous raiding parties and other nefarious groups. So, if he spent those four years after leaving the church where he was raised in near constant combat with the world's injustice, it could be plausible that he'd reach level 18 in four years.
But, if that's not quite enough, we can tweak it or, like I said earlier, I have no issue aging him up some more (maybe mid-twenties/early-thirties?)
It works.
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"Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both" -- allegedly Benjamin Franklin
Also, we need an arcane caster. We got a cleric, a pally, a monk, and a swordsman, but no wiz/lock/sorc.
Dragonborn reach maturity at age 15, but yeah... maybe lvl 18 after four years is a bit fast (being 4.5 levels a year)
I don't have a problem upping his age if it's too unrealistic (what would be more plausible?)
at the same time, there are groups like Vox Machina where they're characters are in the upper teens for levels and have been adventuring for (in game) a couple years (and the most of the characters are aged somewhere between 20-30)
I suppose the real question would be what was Shesha up to before this to grow that quickly? (still, won't argue if it's deemed that 19 years old is pushing it)
For some classes, it makes perfect sense to be ultra-high level at a young age. I'm not entirely sure that paladin is one of them, but I'm willing to listen to any explanation you might have.
As a member of the Church of Tyr, I'd imagine that Shesha would set out to see justice done as soon as possible and would probably have had, to some degree, the goal of joining either the Knights of the Merciful Sword or the Knights of Holy Judgment (and then potentially further recruited to the Hammers of Grimjaws). With that as a goal, add in that Dragonborn "tend to extremes," he would have gone out of his way to seek out injustices to right and following through with the Tenet of Compassion that the Oath of Devotion carries would likely have put him in the path of numerous raiding parties and other nefarious groups. So, if he spent those four years after leaving the church where he was raised in near constant combat with the world's injustice, it could be plausible that he'd reach level 18 in four years.
But, if that's not quite enough, we can tweak it or, like I said earlier, I have no issue aging him up some more (maybe mid-twenties/early-thirties?)
Still... An 18 year old being more trained then say - maybe even a commander who is 40 something. That is NOT logical. Also, a 14 year old level 1 paladin? How do you not get instantly murdered and dropped at the side of the road. No, it doesn't work. At all.
Also, we need an arcane caster. We got a cleric, a pally, a monk, and a swordsman, but no wiz/lock/sorc.
Dragonborn reach maturity at age 15, but yeah... maybe lvl 18 after four years is a bit fast (being 4.5 levels a year)
I don't have a problem upping his age if it's too unrealistic (what would be more plausible?)
at the same time, there are groups like Vox Machina where they're characters are in the upper teens for levels and have been adventuring for (in game) a couple years (and the most of the characters are aged somewhere between 20-30)
I suppose the real question would be what was Shesha up to before this to grow that quickly? (still, won't argue if it's deemed that 19 years old is pushing it)
For some classes, it makes perfect sense to be ultra-high level at a young age. I'm not entirely sure that paladin is one of them, but I'm willing to listen to any explanation you might have.
As a member of the Church of Tyr, I'd imagine that Shesha would set out to see justice done as soon as possible and would probably have had, to some degree, the goal of joining either the Knights of the Merciful Sword or the Knights of Holy Judgment (and then potentially further recruited to the Hammers of Grimjaws). With that as a goal, add in that Dragonborn "tend to extremes," he would have gone out of his way to seek out injustices to right and following through with the Tenet of Compassion that the Oath of Devotion carries would likely have put him in the path of numerous raiding parties and other nefarious groups. So, if he spent those four years after leaving the church where he was raised in near constant combat with the world's injustice, it could be plausible that he'd reach level 18 in four years.
But, if that's not quite enough, we can tweak it or, like I said earlier, I have no issue aging him up some more (maybe mid-twenties/early-thirties?)
Still... An 18 year old being more trained then say - maybe even a commander who is 40 something. That is NOT logical. Also, a 14 year old level 1 paladin? How do you not get instantly murdered and dropped at the side of the road. No, it doesn't work. At all.
First, who says the 40-year old Commander isn't a 20th-level Battle Master fighter?
Second, dragonborn age faster than humans.
Third, you PCs were called to fulfill a grand purpose and are therefore heroically exceptional.
As a Dragonborn, they start walking hours after hatching, are basically as developed as a Human 10-year-old at the age of 3 and reach maturity at the age of 15. I'd imagine that anyone who's on the path of becoming a Paladin would start receiving some degree of training as soon as they were capable of holding a sword. So, assuming he started training around the same time he'd be developmentally the same as a normal human (probably around 5 for Dragonborn) upon reaching 15 there'd be a solid 10 years of training, so it's not like he would've become an adult and gone "I'm gonna be a Paladin" and set off with no training and a rusty sword.
But, if his age is really going to be that much of an issue, I'll raise it (really not a big deal and doesn't really affect what I had in mind for his character). Age in D&D really has no major affect on gameplay, far as I'm aware, so it's kind of a meaningless number in terms of gameplay. If anything, age is more important for the roleplaying aspect and how you play the character.
I know the DM already said it's fine, but I'd like to try to avoid any issues with the rest of the party before the story even begins (unless that adds to the story, then maybe it's fine?)
As a Dragonborn, they start walking hours after hatching, are basically as developed as a Human 10-year-old at the age of 3 and reach maturity at the age of 15. I'd imagine that anyone who's on the path of becoming a Paladin would start receiving some degree of training as soon as they were capable of holding a sword. So, assuming he started training around the same time he'd be developmentally the same as a normal human (probably around 5 for Dragonborn) upon reaching 15 there'd be a solid 10 years of training, so it's not like he would've become an adult and gone "I'm gonna be a Paladin" and set off with no training and a rusty sword.
But, if his age is really going to be that much of an issue, I'll raise it (really not a big deal and doesn't really affect what I had in mind for his character). Age in D&D really has no major affect on gameplay, far as I'm aware, so it's kind of a meaningless number in terms of gameplay. If anything, age is more important for the roleplaying aspect and how you play the character.
I know the DM already said it's fine, but I'd like to try to avoid any issues with the rest of the party before the story even begins (unless that adds to the story, then maybe it's fine?)
In other words, he was about as highly trained as a 3rd- or 4th-level paladin by the time he reached adulthood?
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As a Dragonborn, they start walking hours after hatching, are basically as developed as a Human 10-year-old at the age of 3 and reach maturity at the age of 15. I'd imagine that anyone who's on the path of becoming a Paladin would start receiving some degree of training as soon as they were capable of holding a sword. So, assuming he started training around the same time he'd be developmentally the same as a normal human (probably around 5 for Dragonborn) upon reaching 15 there'd be a solid 10 years of training, so it's not like he would've become an adult and gone "I'm gonna be a Paladin" and set off with no training and a rusty sword.
But, if his age is really going to be that much of an issue, I'll raise it (really not a big deal and doesn't really affect what I had in mind for his character). Age in D&D really has no major affect on gameplay, far as I'm aware, so it's kind of a meaningless number in terms of gameplay. If anything, age is more important for the roleplaying aspect and how you play the character.
I know the DM already said it's fine, but I'd like to try to avoid any issues with the rest of the party before the story even begins (unless that adds to the story, then maybe it's fine?)
In other words, he was about as highly trained as a 3rd- or 4th-level paladin by the time he reached adulthood?
Yeah, we could probably argue that. I'd assume there'd be some degree of real world experience thrown into the training and that it wouldn't all be just swinging at practice dummies or using practice swords. There'd arguably be some sort of "Hey, A, B and C. Go with this experienced superior out into the woods and help them hunt X." kind of thing, yeah?
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Oh okay, thanks! I scrolled through and tried counting, didn't see your post.
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Actually, Matthias, do you have space for another? I want to introduce my Italian friend to DnD and I feel this will help him.
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DM already said it works, so
Well, you do have a point. It IS a game after all...
BUT REALISM GUYS
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If it makes you feel better, his deity knew he was going to grow up to be an important hero, and meddled a little to make it happen.
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Doesn't help, I'll just accept the fact it's a game.
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As a Dragonborn, they start walking hours after hatching, are basically as developed as a Human 10-year-old at the age of 3 and reach maturity at the age of 15. I'd imagine that anyone who's on the path of becoming a Paladin would start receiving some degree of training as soon as they were capable of holding a sword. So, assuming he started training around the same time he'd be developmentally the same as a normal human (probably around 5 for Dragonborn) upon reaching 15 there'd be a solid 10 years of training, so it's not like he would've become an adult and gone "I'm gonna be a Paladin" and set off with no training and a rusty sword.
But, if his age is really going to be that much of an issue, I'll raise it (really not a big deal and doesn't really affect what I had in mind for his character). Age in D&D really has no major affect on gameplay, far as I'm aware, so it's kind of a meaningless number in terms of gameplay. If anything, age is more important for the roleplaying aspect and how you play the character.
I know the DM already said it's fine, but I'd like to try to avoid any issues with the rest of the party before the story even begins (unless that adds to the story, then maybe it's fine?)
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