Heck I have a 2 page pdf that explains how to adapt everything from 3.5e and 4e to 5e... using original material.. no need to redo and reprint the same stuff for 5e..
Would you be willing to share said .pdf document. Would make old bookstore stops a bit more interesting....
My personal wishlist for setting updates are, (in order):
Planescape
Darksun
Eberron
Though Im a huge FR fan and have been now running 3 5e campaigns there, I would like to expand my DMing to these 3 settings, particularly Planescape, which really is a portal to all multiverse settings ;-)
While Eberron is at the top of my list, I'd be okay with any setting besides the Realms, at this point. I've never been a fan of the setting and have refused to buy any products for it for about 25 years. I think I've been more than patient with 5E.
Heck I have a 2 page pdf that explains how to adapt everything from 3.5e and 4e to 5e... using original material.. no need to redo and reprint the same stuff for 5e..
Would you be willing to share said .pdf document. Would make old bookstore stops a bit more interesting....
I find a lot of 4e stuff (my 2nd favorite edition after 5th) is a little troublesome to convert over to 5e due to the giant differences in basically everything. Trying to make 4e Dark Sun into 5e by myself to run a game seems...overwhelming. I tried to convert 1 race and it came out kind of bad.
I've found the opposite. Which race did you try to convert?
you won't get a straight conversion, but IMO 4e is much better as a base, because it's more balanced than 5e, rather than less, while accomplishing the same goals.
So, if something gives a bonus to a skill, consider proficiency or advantage instead, for instance.
The stat boosts are easy, you just knock one down to +1.
The tricky part is the racial abilities, but I'm certain I can help you with that.
Well, it wasn't from Dark Sun specifically, but it was the 4e Gnoll from the PDF on their website. I can provide a link to my homebrew if you're interested.
Quote from nichm>>He still has all his original books, but even if he didn't, he could have picked up every single one of the setting material books on the DM's Guild.
Well, every one of the books except all three of the Planescape Monstrous Compendiums, which have still not been released on the DM's Guild.
Sorry -- I don't mean to distract from your perfectly valid point, but the continuing absence of those three PDFs in particular is a pet peeve.
Only the Forgotten Realms and Ravenloft are allowable previously existing settings. Users are specifically barred from anything else that's been previously published.
I believe that WotC has clarified that Al-Qadim (and thus presumably other Forgotten Realms subsettings like Maztica and the Horde) are also game for DM's Guild products.
My personal wishlist for setting updates are, (in order):
Planescape
Darksun
Eberron
Though Im a huge FR fan and have been now running 3 5e campaigns there, I would like to expand my DMing to these 3 settings, particularly Planescape, which really is a portal to all multiverse settings ;-)
While Eberron is at the top of my list, I'd be okay with any setting besides the Realms, at this point. I've never been a fan of the setting and have refused to buy any products for it for about 25 years. I think I've been more than patient with 5E.
Thing is my friend that you don't have to buy any FR products; you have a veritable library of products you can pick up at eBay, I just picked up the Planescape box set and a couple of supplements, and there is a ton of fan material already out there to update Planescape to 5e.
Personally, I am going to be running games in the Realms till I die, cuz thats how I role ;-)
Thing is my friend that you don't have to buy any FR products; you have a veritable library of products you can pick up at eBay, I just picked up the Planescape box set and a couple of supplements, and there is a ton of fan material already out there to update Planescape to 5e.
Personally, I am going to be running games in the Realms till I die, cuz thats how I role ;-)
Ah, but without official 5E content for those settings, DDB has nothing to sell me. I either want official 5E Eberron or the ability to add the races/classes/feats as homebrew, myself.
Also, I don't mind you playing FR. What I mind is that the intense focus on the Realms as the only supported setting is that it makes it very hard to avoid when I switch groups or when I introduce new players to the game.
Thing is my friend that you don't have to buy any FR products; you have a veritable library of products you can pick up at eBay, I just picked up the Planescape box set and a couple of supplements, and there is a ton of fan material already out there to update Planescape to 5e.
Personally, I am going to be running games in the Realms till I die, cuz thats how I role ;-)
Ah, but without official 5E content for those settings, DDB has nothing to sell me. I either want official 5E Eberron or the ability to add the races/classes/feats as homebrew, myself.
Also, I don't mind you playing FR. What I mind is that the intense focus on the Realms as the only supported setting is that it makes it very hard to avoid when I switch groups or when I introduce new players to the game.
Thank you for not minding, I do find it to be a greatly detailed world that allows me to sandbox the shit out of my stories; that said, 5e is what, 3 years old right now? I say give it a year or 2 and you'll have your wish granted, though I doubt they'll start with Eberron, more than likely they'll start with more iconic settings like Dark Sun or Greyhawk, so Im afraid you will have to continue to be patient young padawan, lol.
Until then Im happily running 3 campaigns in the FR and I can't wait for Tomb of Annihilation!!
Were I WotC and looking at ways to revive old settings in a measured way, I would consider settings anthologies. A book with say a 50-page treatment of 5 different settings, with an appendix of for mechanics related to these settings (gods, monsters, races, classes/subclasses, etc.). You don't need that much information on a setting to run with it, and this way folks who might not otherwise buy a particular setting might check it out because its in a book with setting they know and love.
Atlas of Worlds: Eberron, Greyhawk, Dark Sun, Dragonlance, and Mystara
Atlas of the Multiverse: Planescape, Spelljammer, Ravenloft, etc.
Atlas of the Realms: Maztica, Kara-Tur, Al-Qadim, and the non-Sword Coast bits of Faerun
Were I WotC and looking at ways to revive old settings in a measured way, I would consider settings anthologies. A book with say a 50-page treatment of 5 different settings, with an appendix of for mechanics related to these settings (gods, monsters, races, classes/subclasses, etc.). You don't need that much information on a setting to run with it, and this way folks who might not otherwise buy a particular setting might check it out because its in a book with setting they know and love.
Atlas of Worlds: Eberron, Greyhawk, Dark Sun, Dragonlance, and Mystara
Atlas of the Multiverse: Planescape, Spelljammer, Ravenloft, etc.
Atlas of the Realms: Maztica, Kara-Tur, Al-Qadim, and the non-Sword Coast bits of Faerun
That is a great idea, but what about those of us who want exactly one of those settings?
Rollback Post to RevisionRollBack
"Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both" -- allegedly Benjamin Franklin
That is a great idea, but what about those of us who want exactly one of those settings?
That definitely is the issue with a single book that dedicates significant portions of its page count to different settings, some folks will only really be interested in a small number of them (such as myself; info on Mystara, Eberron, and Birthright I'd use, but all the other settings in the WotC catalog I've got no interest in new material for) so they'll be viewing the price point - determined primarily by the page-count - as being much higher than they'd like.
And with WotC's statements on trying to make it so that what books they do release actually see use at the table, rather than just sitting on shelves, I think that compounds the issue.
Of course, it might just be that Tales from the Yawning Portal is an attempt at testing the waters for more compilation-style works.
I've put forth the idea of having some sort of compendium of multiple worlds, before, and would be accepting of the idea (I'd rather see a SCAG-type book for just Khorvaire, but will take what I can get). I'd envisioned a full-length hardback, though, with more than 10 pages per setting.
Unless, of course, @Osgood was suggesting 50 pages per setting, rather than 50 pages for 5 settings. In which case, I'm totally down with the idea. Not ideal, but we've been relegated to scraps, at this point.
I agree with your ideas. But I also want Nentir Vale in that book.
This is the biggest thing I feel like I missed out on by not playing much 4E. It looked like a very cool setting. I really wish they'd done something similar (i.e. from-scratch) for 5E.
Unless, of course, @Osgood was suggesting 50 pages per setting, rather than 50 pages for 5 settings. In which case, I'm totally down with the idea. Not ideal, but we've been relegated to scraps, at this point.
Yes, I was suggesting a 250 or so page book, with 50ish pages dedicated to each setting. If it was a 10-page treatment, I'd say they could include the entire catalog of settings!
I'd love to see a book of that size dedicated to say Eberron, but I think this minimizes the risk for WotC. The average gamer wouldn't buy five different setting books if they only really care about one or two, but more people are likely to buy a book that has a respectable write up on them along with materiel they are less interested in... and since they have the other settings, they might read them and get interested or at least find ideas to steal.
While I get that the "sampler" book might irritate some folks, I think it adds some value.
I'd probably buy, say, Dark Sun, just to vote with my dollar. It's possible I might not, though, because I know I'm not going to play it. If there are several settings bundled, I have zero objection to getting the book as long as it has at least one setting I actually do want.
It might the only way to get me to buy another D&D book, too. I'm not sure I'll buy Xanadu's Guide to Everything (yes, I'll mock the name every chance I get) even if the title is the only reference to the Realms in the whole thing.
Rollback Post to RevisionRollBack
To post a comment, please login or register a new account.
"Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both" -- allegedly Benjamin Franklin
Tooltips (Help/aid)
Pain Heals, Chicks Dig Scars, Glory Lasts Forever!
See if this works..., from wizards.com
DnD_Conversions
We do bones, motherf***ker!
Well, it wasn't from Dark Sun specifically, but it was the 4e Gnoll from the PDF on their website. I can provide a link to my homebrew if you're interested.
Pain Heals, Chicks Dig Scars, Glory Lasts Forever!
Forever Dungeon Master & Storyteller
Forever Dungeon Master & Storyteller
Were I WotC and looking at ways to revive old settings in a measured way, I would consider settings anthologies. A book with say a 50-page treatment of 5 different settings, with an appendix of for mechanics related to these settings (gods, monsters, races, classes/subclasses, etc.). You don't need that much information on a setting to run with it, and this way folks who might not otherwise buy a particular setting might check it out because its in a book with setting they know and love.
"Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both" -- allegedly Benjamin Franklin
Tooltips (Help/aid)
I've put forth the idea of having some sort of compendium of multiple worlds, before, and would be accepting of the idea (I'd rather see a SCAG-type book for just Khorvaire, but will take what I can get). I'd envisioned a full-length hardback, though, with more than 10 pages per setting.
Unless, of course, @Osgood was suggesting 50 pages per setting, rather than 50 pages for 5 settings. In which case, I'm totally down with the idea. Not ideal, but we've been relegated to scraps, at this point.
I agree with your ideas. But I also want Nentir Vale in that book.
Time fades even legend...
While I get that the "sampler" book might irritate some folks, I think it adds some value.
I'd probably buy, say, Dark Sun, just to vote with my dollar. It's possible I might not, though, because I know I'm not going to play it. If there are several settings bundled, I have zero objection to getting the book as long as it has at least one setting I actually do want.
It might the only way to get me to buy another D&D book, too. I'm not sure I'll buy Xanadu's Guide to Everything (yes, I'll mock the name every chance I get) even if the title is the only reference to the Realms in the whole thing.