I'm dealing with a player who likes to cheese out and break the game. She has taken path of the beast for her subclass. She was trying to get the 40000 attacks with claws/melee weapons thing but I showed her some of the previous posts, so now shes trying to argue that at third level she can attack with a great weapon, attack with her tail, and also add the 1d8 bonus to AC. (sigh) Personally I think the 1d8 bonus to ac is broken, thats way to much. It doesn't even make sense. A tail can give you as good an armor class as plate mail? Anyway, as I am a new DM I just wanted to make sure - she has no feats so she can only attack one time with the great sword OR once with the tail. Then she can use her reaction to add to her AC anyone she can see who attacks her within 10 feet. Shes also trying to say that even if she just gets one attack, that if shes uses her tail for the AC bonus that it hits the attacker because they were coming towards her. *shrug* So as I see the rules it would be
One attack - great weapon OR tail Reaction - 1d8 to AC thats it, not 1d8 to AC AND 1d8 to the attacker. Am I right?
She should only have one attack at lvl 3, ignoring feats. At lvl 5, she could attack once with both the great weapon and natural weapon in one turn. The claw is the outlier, because you can make two attacks with it once per turn when used as part of an Attack Action.
The tail's reaction is just an extra 1d8 to your AC on 1 attack roll from a seen creature within 10 f. It can be made after the roll is determined to be a hit, so you can potentially make it a miss. No retaliation damage or anything, and just against one attack roll.
Tail is already arguably the best choice of the 3 natural weapons you can choose from as the game progresses. What she's claiming it could do is outright busted. However, the 1d8 to AC on one attack per round from someone near you is not nearly as broken as you made it out to be.
I'm dealing with a player who likes to cheese out and break the game. She has taken path of the beast for her subclass. She was trying to get the 40000 attacks with claws/melee weapons thing but I showed her some of the previous posts, so now shes trying to argue that at third level she can attack with a great weapon, attack with her tail, and also add the 1d8 bonus to AC. (sigh) Personally I think the 1d8 bonus to ac is broken, thats way to much. It doesn't even make sense. A tail can give you as good an armor class as plate mail? Anyway, as I am a new DM I just wanted to make sure - she has no feats so she can only attack one time with the great sword OR once with the tail. Then she can use her reaction to add to her AC anyone she can see who attacks her within 10 feet. Shes also trying to say that even if she just gets one attack, that if shes uses her tail for the AC bonus that it hits the attacker because they were coming towards her. *shrug* So as I see the rules it would be
One attack - great weapon OR tail Reaction - 1d8 to AC thats it, not 1d8 to AC AND 1d8 to the attacker. Am I right?
You are correct. At level 5 she can do that if she likes, because she has two attacks.
I don't agree about it being broken. Only adds the AC against a single attack that hits the Barbarian, and if it used reckless attack it's with advantage.
I'm dealing with a player who likes to cheese out and break the game. She has taken path of the beast for her subclass. She was trying to get the 40000 attacks with claws/melee weapons thing but I showed her some of the previous posts, so now shes trying to argue that at third level she can attack with a great weapon, attack with her tail, and also add the 1d8 bonus to AC. (sigh) Personally I think the 1d8 bonus to ac is broken, thats way to much. It doesn't even make sense. A tail can give you as good an armor class as plate mail? Anyway, as I am a new DM I just wanted to make sure - she has no feats so she can only attack one time with the great sword OR once with the tail. Then she can use her reaction to add to her AC anyone she can see who attacks her within 10 feet. Shes also trying to say that even if she just gets one attack, that if shes uses her tail for the AC bonus that it hits the attacker because they were coming towards her. *shrug* So as I see the rules it would be
One attack - great weapon OR tail
Reaction - 1d8 to AC thats it, not 1d8 to AC AND 1d8 to the attacker.
Am I right?
You are correct.
She should only have one attack at lvl 3, ignoring feats. At lvl 5, she could attack once with both the great weapon and natural weapon in one turn. The claw is the outlier, because you can make two attacks with it once per turn when used as part of an Attack Action.
The tail's reaction is just an extra 1d8 to your AC on 1 attack roll from a seen creature within 10 f. It can be made after the roll is determined to be a hit, so you can potentially make it a miss. No retaliation damage or anything, and just against one attack roll.
Tail is already arguably the best choice of the 3 natural weapons you can choose from as the game progresses. What she's claiming it could do is outright busted. However, the 1d8 to AC on one attack per round from someone near you is not nearly as broken as you made it out to be.
You are correct. At level 5 she can do that if she likes, because she has two attacks.
I don't agree about it being broken. Only adds the AC against a single attack that hits the Barbarian, and if it used reckless attack it's with advantage.
Ok, thanks for the response fellas I appreciate the feedback.