Would it hopelessly break the Bard Class if Vicious Mockery were available as a Bonus Action?
I am thinking of the sword battle between The Man in Black and Inigo Montoya. Using the rapier to go pokey-pokey while also using my verbal and charismatic skills in battle sounds like the bomb.
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Would it hopelessly break the Bard Class if Vicious Mockery were available as a Bonus Action?
I am thinking of the sword battle between The Man in Black and Inigo Montoya. Using the rapier to go pokey-pokey while also using my verbal and charismatic skills in battle sounds like the bomb.
I recently brought this to my DM & he is allowing it at the cost of a Bardic Inspiration slot.
Would it hopelessly break the Bard Class if Vicious Mockery were available as a Bonus Action?
I am thinking of the sword battle between The Man in Black and Inigo Montoya. Using the rapier to go pokey-pokey while also using my verbal and charismatic skills in battle sounds like the bomb.
Hopelessly break i don't know, but unbalancing for sure as most classes don't have scaling bonus action damaging cantrip.
Vicious Mockery is a good debuff spell despite its low damage. Changing it's casting time would be a major boon.
Would it hopelessly break the Bard Class if Vicious Mockery were available as a Bonus Action?
I am thinking of the sword battle between The Man in Black and Inigo Montoya. Using the rapier to go pokey-pokey while also using my verbal and charismatic skills in battle sounds like the bomb.
I recently brought this to my DM & he is allowing it at the cost of a Bardic Inspiration slot.
That is an interesting proposal. Thanks for sharing.
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So, in a game I'm running I gave the Bard a magic rapier called the "Rapier of Wit" that allowed her to cast Vicious Mockery as a bonus action, but only after taking the attack action and she can only target the same person who she just attacked with the rapier. I gave it to her partly because she regularly shouts out insults in-game while casting other spells or taking other actions and laments that she can't do vicious mockery in the process, and becuase, despite not being one of the melee-focused bard subclasses, she still regularly runs headlong into danger.
Overall I don't know how unbalancing it is. She uses it much less than I thought she would, and I'd imagine it would be totally busted if giving to a Swords or Valor bard, but so far it hasn't unbalanced the game and, at the very least, gives her a magic weapon for challenges that involve resistance to non-magical attacks.
For my game once I made a CHOCKER OF INSULTS. It alowed you to cast cast it as a if you used a attack action that round. I also made a spell Vicious Mockery Light (need better name). This spell is a bounces action that does no damage and when it scales it adds different targets so at level 5 you can cast it at can give 1 or 2 targets disadvantage but not the same target more then one time.
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Would it hopelessly break the Bard Class if Vicious Mockery were available as a Bonus Action?
I am thinking of the sword battle between The Man in Black and Inigo Montoya. Using the rapier to go pokey-pokey while also using my verbal and charismatic skills in battle sounds like the bomb.
Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt
I recently brought this to my DM & he is allowing it at the cost of a Bardic Inspiration slot.
Hopelessly break i don't know, but unbalancing for sure as most classes don't have scaling bonus action damaging cantrip.
Vicious Mockery is a good debuff spell despite its low damage. Changing it's casting time would be a major boon.
That is an interesting proposal. Thanks for sharing.
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I think Plagescarred has a point.
Perhaps making the boon more costly could be a possibility. A feat perhaps, something like:
Mocking retort
Prerequisite -Vicious Mockery spell
Your caustic wit and humor are on a hair trigger.
You gain +1 to your Charisma score to a maximum of 20.
You gain the ability to cast only Vicious Mockery as a bonus action a number of times equal to your charisma modifier per long rest (minimum 1).
So, in a game I'm running I gave the Bard a magic rapier called the "Rapier of Wit" that allowed her to cast Vicious Mockery as a bonus action, but only after taking the attack action and she can only target the same person who she just attacked with the rapier. I gave it to her partly because she regularly shouts out insults in-game while casting other spells or taking other actions and laments that she can't do vicious mockery in the process, and becuase, despite not being one of the melee-focused bard subclasses, she still regularly runs headlong into danger.
Overall I don't know how unbalancing it is. She uses it much less than I thought she would, and I'd imagine it would be totally busted if giving to a Swords or Valor bard, but so far it hasn't unbalanced the game and, at the very least, gives her a magic weapon for challenges that involve resistance to non-magical attacks.
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For my game once I made a CHOCKER OF INSULTS. It alowed you to cast cast it as a if you used a attack action that round. I also made a spell Vicious Mockery Light (need better name). This spell is a bounces action that does no damage and when it scales it adds different targets so at level 5 you can cast it at can give 1 or 2 targets disadvantage but not the same target more then one time.
I spell Goodly.