I would start with 2 levels of Hexblade Warlock, so that your all your martial and spell stats can focus on just CHA. You'll also get Invocations and 2 spell slots for things like shield. And also Hexblade Curse is a nice little adder. If you're good with sword and board, just go 2 Warlock. If you want to go two-handed weapon, go 3 and pick Pact of the Blade.
THEN go Paladin. You got some really nice perks and you're not having to spread ASI points across so many stats. You'll just need a 15 strength if you want heavy armor. If you're good with medium armor, all you need is 14 DEX, a decent CON, and pump CHA.
Wrong imo, you ALWAYS start with paladin. Because of the rules of multi-classing, you would have to take a feat to get heavy armor, if you started with warlock, then went paladin. Besides which, I think proficiency in Wisdom is preferable to Constitution, since a domination or other mental manipulation of you can wipe your party. Most hexadin builds I have seen start out with at least 2 levels in paladin, before going to warlock. His ability points are better than just about any level 20 character, so having a 15 str is not a worry. He gains nothing by going warlock first, just loses the potential for heavy armor.
I would start with 2 levels of Hexblade Warlock, so that your all your martial and spell stats can focus on just CHA. You'll also get Invocations and 2 spell slots for things like shield. And also Hexblade Curse is a nice little adder. If you're good with sword and board, just go 2 Warlock. If you want to go two-handed weapon, go 3 and pick Pact of the Blade.
THEN go Paladin. You got some really nice perks and you're not having to spread ASI points across so many stats. You'll just need a 15 strength if you want heavy armor. If you're good with medium armor, all you need is 14 DEX, a decent CON, and pump CHA.
Wrong imo, you ALWAYS start with paladin. Because of the rules of multi-classing, you would have to take a feat to get heavy armor, if you started with warlock, then went paladin. Besides which, I think proficiency in Wisdom is preferable to Constitution, since a domination or other mental manipulation of you can wipe your party. Most hexadin builds I have seen start out with at least 2 levels in paladin, before going to warlock. His ability points are better than just about any level 20 character, so having a 15 str is not a worry. He gains nothing by going warlock first, just loses the potential for heavy armor.
You might have missed my subsequent post explaining I had not seen his ridiculous scores. The difference in AC between medium and heavy armor is 1. And personally, I prefer going medium armor and allocating ability points to Dex for better initiative and Dex saves, and also not being a stealth liability. I also prefer taking STR based weapons, but Warlock takes care of that.
You brought up valid reasons to prefer Paladin first, but I wouldn't want to trudge through levels of Paladin that's weak on strength, before I get the Hexblade features. My way is all about resource management, but with his stats that's a non-issue.
I would start with 2 levels of Hexblade Warlock, so that your all your martial and spell stats can focus on just CHA. You'll also get Invocations and 2 spell slots for things like shield. And also Hexblade Curse is a nice little adder. If you're good with sword and board, just go 2 Warlock. If you want to go two-handed weapon, go 3 and pick Pact of the Blade.
THEN go Paladin. You got some really nice perks and you're not having to spread ASI points across so many stats. You'll just need a 15 strength if you want heavy armor. If you're good with medium armor, all you need is 14 DEX, a decent CON, and pump CHA.
Wrong imo, you ALWAYS start with paladin. Because of the rules of multi-classing, you would have to take a feat to get heavy armor, if you started with warlock, then went paladin. Besides which, I think proficiency in Wisdom is preferable to Constitution, since a domination or other mental manipulation of you can wipe your party. Most hexadin builds I have seen start out with at least 2 levels in paladin, before going to warlock. His ability points are better than just about any level 20 character, so having a 15 str is not a worry. He gains nothing by going warlock first, just loses the potential for heavy armor.
You might have missed my subsequent post explaining I had not seen his ridiculous scores. The difference in AC between medium and heavy armor is 1. And personally, I prefer going medium armor and allocating ability points to Dex for better initiative and Dex saves, and also not being a stealth liability. I also prefer taking STR based weapons, but Warlock takes care of that.
You brought up valid reasons to prefer Paladin first, but I wouldn't want to trudge through levels of Paladin that's weak on strength, before I get the Hexblade features. My way is all about resource management, but with his stats that's a non-issue.
Sorry, if my initial comment came on strong. I wrote it late at night and hard to get tone from a post. I was saying it's wrong "imo." But everything you can do, wearing medium armor, you can do while starting as a paladin. And like I noted, I think Wis is a very good thing to have proficiency in, since charm or mental manipulation is usually a wisdom save.
Sorry, if my initial comment came on strong. I wrote it late at night and hard to get tone from a post. I was saying it's wrong "imo." But everything you can do, wearing medium armor, you can do while starting as a paladin. And like I noted, I think Wis is a very good thing to have proficiency in, since charm or mental manipulation is usually a wisdom save.
That's alright it happens. I consider many of these things on the fly, and I've never played a Paladin or Warlock, so insight from those who have is welcome. And yeah, you could make it work. Go 16 Dex and 16 Cha, start with Paladin, and go Rapier & Shield until you dip into Warlock. After your attack rolls are converted to Charisma, the high Dex doesn't feel like a waste because Dex is always useful.
That's not to say Strength builds aren't useful. It will give you 1 additional AC, and if you want to go Shield Master you'll want a high strength. Just - Hexblade really diminishes the importance of strength because you can sling any weapon with your charisma (if you take Warlock to 3).
Sorry, if my initial comment came on strong. I wrote it late at night and hard to get tone from a post. I was saying it's wrong "imo." But everything you can do, wearing medium armor, you can do while starting as a paladin. And like I noted, I think Wis is a very good thing to have proficiency in, since charm or mental manipulation is usually a wisdom save.
That's alright it happens. I consider many of these things on the fly, and I've never played a Paladin or Warlock, so insight from those who have is welcome. And yeah, you could make it work. Go 16 Dex and 16 Cha, start with Paladin, and go Rapier & Shield until you dip into Warlock. After your attack rolls are converted to Charisma, the high Dex doesn't feel like a waste because Dex is always useful.
That's not to say Strength builds aren't useful. It will give you 1 additional AC, and if you want to go Shield Master you'll want a high strength. Just - Hexblade really diminishes the importance of strength because you can sling any weapon with your charisma (if you take Warlock to 3).
Yeah, I can see the advantage of going Dex, medium armor and shield. That +3 to AC can make up for a lot of heavy armor! Not to mention...Stealth checks would no longer be at a disadvantage! If the party is going to fail a stealth check, it's very likely because of the paladin! lol
Wrong imo, you ALWAYS start with paladin. Because of the rules of multi-classing, you would have to take a feat to get heavy armor, if you started with warlock, then went paladin. Besides which, I think proficiency in Wisdom is preferable to Constitution, since a domination or other mental manipulation of you can wipe your party. Most hexadin builds I have seen start out with at least 2 levels in paladin, before going to warlock. His ability points are better than just about any level 20 character, so having a 15 str is not a worry. He gains nothing by going warlock first, just loses the potential for heavy armor.
You might have missed my subsequent post explaining I had not seen his ridiculous scores. The difference in AC between medium and heavy armor is 1. And personally, I prefer going medium armor and allocating ability points to Dex for better initiative and Dex saves, and also not being a stealth liability. I also prefer taking STR based weapons, but Warlock takes care of that.
You brought up valid reasons to prefer Paladin first, but I wouldn't want to trudge through levels of Paladin that's weak on strength, before I get the Hexblade features. My way is all about resource management, but with his stats that's a non-issue.
Sorry, if my initial comment came on strong. I wrote it late at night and hard to get tone from a post. I was saying it's wrong "imo." But everything you can do, wearing medium armor, you can do while starting as a paladin. And like I noted, I think Wis is a very good thing to have proficiency in, since charm or mental manipulation is usually a wisdom save.
That's alright it happens. I consider many of these things on the fly, and I've never played a Paladin or Warlock, so insight from those who have is welcome. And yeah, you could make it work. Go 16 Dex and 16 Cha, start with Paladin, and go Rapier & Shield until you dip into Warlock. After your attack rolls are converted to Charisma, the high Dex doesn't feel like a waste because Dex is always useful.
That's not to say Strength builds aren't useful. It will give you 1 additional AC, and if you want to go Shield Master you'll want a high strength. Just - Hexblade really diminishes the importance of strength because you can sling any weapon with your charisma (if you take Warlock to 3).
Yeah, I can see the advantage of going Dex, medium armor and shield. That +3 to AC can make up for a lot of heavy armor! Not to mention...Stealth checks would no longer be at a disadvantage! If the party is going to fail a stealth check, it's very likely because of the paladin! lol