Monstrous Compendium Vol. 1: Spelljammer Creatures
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This feature CAN dish out a large amount of damage. This feature CAN be used twice per round with clever play.
There's only one question I have:
Why is it limited to attacks with finesse or ranged weapons specifically instead of generalizing to attacks using Dexterity like the 2024/5.5e Barbarian uses attacks using Strength?
The only real effect this has is allowing Barbarian-Rogues and inhibiting Monk-Rogues. I don't speak for anyone but myself, but I speak honestly when I say: I'd rather be able to sneak attack with a punch than rage as a rogue.
How can cleaver play get a thief to do sneak attack twice in a round?
Aren't finesse and range weapons dex based?
Why should any ability of a class be designed for promoting multi classing character?
By attacking again on someone else's turn. The most obvious way to do this is via an Opportunity Attack, but there are various other ways.
Ranged weapons are. Finesse weapons can use either Strength or Dexterity. This person's specific complaint is that not referencing Dexterity-based attacks specifically means they can't use Sneak Attack on Unarmed Strikes even if (as a Monk) they could make those using Dexterity.
They shouldn't.
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You could still use Sneak Attack with your Monk, you would just need to use a Finesse weapon instead of your fists. Limiting the weapon type actually allows for a wider range of possible multi-class options than it would if it just required Dexterity-based attacks (which for anyone other than a Monk, means a Finesse or ranged weapon anyways).
Monk 1/Rogue X would be an incredibly potent multi-class if you could Sneak Attack on Dex-based attacks. You could Bonus Action punch/Sneak Attack, then Ready your Action for another punch/Sneak Attack. While this isn't the only way to achieve the double Sneak Attack, it would definitely be one of the simplest and come online the fastest. Unarmed also has a lot of useful control options - consider that Lupin with Street Brawler, Grappler, Slasher and Tavern Brawler.
In contrast, being able to Sneak Attack using Strength is effectively worthless since Cunning/Devious Strikes is Dex-based. Strength is also a very weak stat even when you've got full access to Strength-based weapons and armor. If you're building a Strength-based character who only uses Finesse/Ranged weapons and full Stealth armors, you're going to be a lot weaker than a comparable Dex-based character.