I currently have Chaos bolt but thinking of switching out for Ice Knife next level. Mostly cause the dex save for Ice could be paired with Earthen Grasp and some others nicely. Any thoughts?
Both those spells are fairly average, you may be better off sticking to your cantrips and saving the spell slot for an emergency Shield or Absorb Elements or if you are in the Level 1-2 range I would suggest using Sleep instead. But if you are dead set on using your level 1 spell slot to do damage then I would suggest Burning Hands. It has shorter range but a cone has a better chance of hitting multiple enemies compared to Ice Knife which requires them to be within 5 ft of each other. The advantage Burning Hands has over Chaos Bolt is that its guaranteed to do some damage as opposed to nothing if it misses.
If you are more adventurous then I would recommend Tasha's Caustic Brew, which kinda sucks if they make the save but if they don't they take damage at the start of every turn unless they waste an Action to scrap it off. The 30 ft long 5 ft wide line also makes hitting multiple enemies easier than Ice Knife.
Yeah I am lvl 3 now, planning to make change at 4. gotcha. Oh so just scrap the lvl 1 spells? I have shield there as well which I need. My lvl 2s are earthen grasp and nathairs mischief. Cantrips are fire bolt, minor illusion, mind sliver and infestation (that I plan to lose and replace with chill touch maybe).
Yeah Web and Suggestion are very good spells to pickup. If your CHA is odd I would suggest taking the Fey Touched feat to grab Misty Step that way instead. And definitely keep Shield, that spell WILL save your life on more than one occasion lol. I am curious as to what subclass you are playing, I am assuming Draconic because I don't see Mage Armor.
Thanks for fey pointer. No I am human. dumb to not have mage armor too? At my level now it adds 3. most of the time I’m hiding behind a minor illusion in battle because I am a young sorcerer who’s afraid to tell my mates that I have magic. Something to play in these early stages until I accept my full power and break out.
By odd CHA I mean is it a odd number eg. 15, 17, 19 etc as a feat like Fey Touched could then round it up to a even number and increase the modifier for the stat. And I am actually asking about your Sorcerer subclass not your race.
It really depends on what your party needs from you, Caustic Brew is a solid spell but if your party needs more control then something like Web becomes the better choice. Also you can still take Fey Touched if you want but it just means you will max your CHA slower but on the flip side you can take another CHA half feat like Shadow Touched to round up your CHA. But you might feel a little molested from so many touches :P
With CHA at 16 i would recommend Metamagic adept as your feat. 4 Metamagic options and 6 Sorcery points at level 4 is too good to pass by....
As an Attack spell, that you can keep for a long time i would recommend Tasha's mind whip. The damage is not good, but the save and the damage type is. And you are here for the additional effect. Restricting monsters in their action economy is pretty powerful. A smart group can use this spell to great effectivness.
like the mind whip and caustic brew ideas, but leaning towards Web and suggestion and metamagic adept. Or maybe web and one of those tasha’s. then maybe do the other half feats at lvl 8 I think it is?
Hmm it does occur to me though that Nathairs Mischief which I already have and the randomness really blends well with my wild magic backstory, is essentially and area control spell right? So maybe a look at some damage or buffs is what I should do…
There is no such thing that you "should" do, maybe except for don't pick something, that you don't like. If you are drawn to Web and Suggestion, just pick those spells. If you are drawn to damage spells, pick those ones.
You CAN consider what abilities your other partymembers bring to the table and try to complement those skills. But be aware of your limited spell selection and only make choices that will add to your character.
I currently have Chaos bolt but thinking of switching out for Ice Knife next level. Mostly cause the dex save for Ice could be paired with Earthen Grasp and some others nicely. Any thoughts?
Both those spells are fairly average, you may be better off sticking to your cantrips and saving the spell slot for an emergency Shield or Absorb Elements or if you are in the Level 1-2 range I would suggest using Sleep instead. But if you are dead set on using your level 1 spell slot to do damage then I would suggest Burning Hands. It has shorter range but a cone has a better chance of hitting multiple enemies compared to Ice Knife which requires them to be within 5 ft of each other. The advantage Burning Hands has over Chaos Bolt is that its guaranteed to do some damage as opposed to nothing if it misses.
If you are more adventurous then I would recommend Tasha's Caustic Brew, which kinda sucks if they make the save but if they don't they take damage at the start of every turn unless they waste an Action to scrap it off. The 30 ft long 5 ft wide line also makes hitting multiple enemies easier than Ice Knife.
Hope this helps.
Wait scratch that you have Earthen Grasp already that means you are level 3+ replace Chaos Bolt with a level 2 or higher spell instead.
Yeah I am lvl 3 now, planning to make change at 4.
gotcha. Oh so just scrap the lvl 1 spells? I have shield there as well which I need. My lvl 2s are earthen grasp and nathairs mischief. Cantrips are fire bolt, minor illusion, mind sliver and infestation (that I plan to lose and replace with chill touch maybe).
Lvl 2s I have my eye on
web
suggestion
enhance ability
misty step
And yeah, I wish I had grabbed sleep earlier, sounds fun, but I guess too late now…
Yeah Web and Suggestion are very good spells to pickup. If your CHA is odd I would suggest taking the Fey Touched feat to grab Misty Step that way instead. And definitely keep Shield, that spell WILL save your life on more than one occasion lol. I am curious as to what subclass you are playing, I am assuming Draconic because I don't see Mage Armor.
Thanks for fey pointer.
No I am human. dumb to not have mage armor too?
At my level now it adds 3.
most of the time I’m hiding behind a minor illusion in battle because I am a young sorcerer who’s afraid to tell my mates that I have magic. Something to play in these early stages until I accept my full power and break out.
What did you mean by cha odd? It’s def the stat I’m building
And planning metamagic adept at lvl 4 too
By odd CHA I mean is it a odd number eg. 15, 17, 19 etc as a feat like Fey Touched could then round it up to a even number and increase the modifier for the stat. And I am actually asking about your Sorcerer subclass not your race.
Oh sorry. Wildmagic
Ah and I see, getting fey touched would be great
My CHA is 16 though at the moment
Going into lvl 4 do you no longer recommend caustic brew? Sounds good.
It really depends on what your party needs from you, Caustic Brew is a solid spell but if your party needs more control then something like Web becomes the better choice. Also you can still take Fey Touched if you want but it just means you will max your CHA slower but on the flip side you can take another CHA half feat like Shadow Touched to round up your CHA. But you might feel a little molested from so many touches :P
With CHA at 16 i would recommend Metamagic adept as your feat.
4 Metamagic options and 6 Sorcery points at level 4 is too good to pass by....
As an Attack spell, that you can keep for a long time i would recommend Tasha's mind whip. The damage is not good, but the save and the damage type is. And you are here for the additional effect. Restricting monsters in their action economy is pretty powerful. A smart group can use this spell to great effectivness.
Haha yeah
so many choices!
like the mind whip and caustic brew ideas, but leaning towards Web and suggestion and metamagic adept. Or maybe web and one of those tasha’s.
then maybe do the other half feats at lvl 8 I think it is?
thanks for the help!
Hmm it does occur to me though that Nathairs Mischief which I already have and the randomness really blends well with my wild magic backstory, is essentially and area control spell right? So maybe a look at some damage or buffs is what I should do…
There is no such thing that you "should" do, maybe except for don't pick something, that you don't like.
If you are drawn to Web and Suggestion, just pick those spells. If you are drawn to damage spells, pick those ones.
You CAN consider what abilities your other partymembers bring to the table and try to complement those skills. But be aware of your limited spell selection and only make choices that will add to your character.