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Funny thing is, if they wouldn't have made all these terrible decisions and simply left the marketplace as it was, I would have absolutely purchased Tome of Beast I, Where Evil Lives, and Flee Mortals, even given the high priced "buy the whole thing or nothing" nature of third-party content (like I did with Tal'Dorei, Humblewood, etc). Now? I'm not buying them just on principle.

 ^^ This is me.

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I don't know if I agree with boycotting WotC altogether, but I do understand how it would come to that for some folks.  There have been a few missteps all around.  For me, I've cancelled my subscription to DDB.  Anyone who feels like they've been slighted by this latest move should do the same and encourage their friends likewise.  Make sure to cite the reason when prompted.

I will return when/if this is addressed in a satisfactory manner.  I know that satisfactory is a subjective term but I think WotC and DDB should get the point if enough of us unsubscribe.

 

 Give the app a bad review too. 

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Funny thing is, if they wouldn't have made all these terrible decisions and simply left the marketplace as it was, I would have absolutely purchased Tome of Beast I, Where Evil Lives, and Flee Mortals, even given the high priced "buy the whole thing or nothing" nature of third-party content (like I did with Tal'Dorei, Humblewood, etc). Now? I'm not buying them just on principle.

 ^^ This is me.

 I was ready to drop big money on the third parties as well as the upcoming new books. But unless they start doing some digital code that you can redeem with the alternate covers or bring back a la carte then I’m not buying anything

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Funny thing is, if they wouldn't have made all these terrible decisions and simply left the marketplace as it was, I would have absolutely purchased Tome of Beast I, Where Evil Lives, and Flee Mortals, even given the high priced "buy the whole thing or nothing" nature of third-party content (like I did with Tal'Dorei, Humblewood, etc). Now? I'm not buying them just on principle.

 ^^ This is me.

 I was ready to drop big money on the third parties as well as the upcoming new books. But unless they start doing some digital code that you can redeem with the alternate covers or bring back a la carte then I’m not buying anything

 Alt covers have only ever been available in FLGS, unless they start offering them direct from wizbro why should they offer the discount you are asking for?

 I stated before that the only conditions of me buying anything would be to either: restore à la carte entirely, pack only purchases, digital content codes with physical book purchases. Otherwise I’m not buying Jack shit

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Funny thing is, if they wouldn't have made all these terrible decisions and simply left the marketplace as it was, I would have absolutely purchased Tome of Beast I, Where Evil Lives, and Flee Mortals, even given the high priced "buy the whole thing or nothing" nature of third-party content (like I did with Tal'Dorei, Humblewood, etc). Now? I'm not buying them just on principle.

 ^^ This is me.

 I was ready to drop big money on the third parties as well as the upcoming new books. But unless they start doing some digital code that you can redeem with the alternate covers or bring back a la carte then I’m not buying anything

 Alt covers have only ever been available in FLGS, unless they start offering them direct from wizbro why should they offer the discount you are asking for?

 Read the room

 I am, and I standby my post. You are asking for way more than was lost, and something that was never offered. WotC has the right (and even the duty) to make changes like this, but to take away things after the purchase (like bundle discounts stacking and piecemeal credits on sale items) is one thing, but not offering them to new customers is another. 

While it may suck to find out what you could of had is no longer available that is a horse of another color, taking away something you were sold is another. No longer selling bundles/piecemeal (while I personally see that as a poor choice) is not something to use to try and leverage into things that were never on the table, but no longer honoring agreements made prior to the store change is something worthy of fighting for.

 

Sorry, I just see your ask as a huge overreach.

 My guy I’ve been in this chat for a month talking about some concessions or ideas on things, it was an *example* of something I’ve reiterated several times on here before. Things that would be something I’d be good with if a la carte individual items never came back. I’m not re-making the same full spiel each time. Did you see the word “demand” on there? No. But if you’re not going back to read and see the context and must know the full  sentiment behind it is “it’s pretty stupid that bundles only come in way of original cover through DDB direct Without some form of concession towards things like the return of a la carte or physical purchases getting codes, then I just won’t buy digital.”

happy?

I have been with D&D Beyond since the beginning and I plan to keep using the service until something better comes along.  That said, I am extremely disappointed in the removal of a la carte purchases.  I am a disabled vet and live on a fixed income.  I can't afford to purchase full books at the prices they charge, especially if all I am going to use out of the book is a couple of background options.  I have purchased quite a few things a la carte over the years, and I would have continued to do so.  I hope that they can pull their collective heads out soon.  I'm guessing the recent rash of book sales in their marketplace is due to the crash of sales since the changes.

I've always enjoyed making new PCs but It is now an extremely frustrating experience as I have to try to re-create the race I don't own instead of just giving wotc $2. I'm not gonna buy multiverse of monsters as a player. I can only hope that enough people feel the same way. But as we keep seeing, user experience doesn't matter anymore. All that matters is appeasing shareholders. Either way, they won't get any more of my money until a la carte is back. Mostly because it is the only reason I'd ever buy anything in the first place. I'll fight through the accessibility issues and just do pen and paper instead.

Hugely sucks, especially as a DM who's regularly creating new characters and who's interested in creating weird builds. Does anyone have good recs for dndbeyond alternatives for character creation? 

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Hugely sucks, especially as a DM who's regularly creating new characters and who's interested in creating weird builds. Does anyone have good recs for dndbeyond alternatives for character creation? 

 Are you looking for just character sheets, a VTT or something more? The first thing that comes to mind is the MPMB character sheets.

Mostly, I just like to build my NPCs in the dnd beyond character creator, because it makes them easier to manage--especially for spellcasters. Then I usually just keep the sheet up at the table so I can track HP, spells, etc. Ideally something that will let me continue to pull from all the rules for the character creation (I was trying to quickly build a school of necromancy wizard with the metamagic adept feat, which would have cost me like sixty dollars for those two features alone), but will also offer tools for tracking resources during combat.

I'm looking into MPMB now--thank you!

Don't forget yall, dndbeyond has a twitch community livestream from 5-5:45 pm Eastern time tomorrow

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Don't forget yall, dndbeyond has a twitch community livestream from 5-5:45 pm Eastern time tomorrow

 i don't know anything about twitch livestreams. is this a regular community thing or is there some sort of announcement?

This is me as well--I haven't posted in the past because the OGL business didn't have an impact on my use of dndbeyond as a tool. I DM for a table of five--all dndbeyond users and monthly subscribers--and we're trying out some dndbeyond alternatives now. This massively reduces functionality for me and the people I play with regularly.

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Don't forget yall, dndbeyond has a twitch community livestream from 5-5:45 pm Eastern time tomorrow

 i don't know anything about twitch livestreams. is this a regular community thing or is there some sort of announcement?

 Probably some crap about upcoming 6e crap, someone will post about what it said.

I was here and commented on the OGL issue, same as I am here now commenting and curious as to what is to become of the 5e character builder? Will it still support 5e character building, or will it be changed to accommodate 6e builds? Will we be able to select which builder we would like to use?

I think the staff can pass that question on to someone who has the authority to format a response in a timely manner.

If you wouldn’t mind?

  I agree.

Will we still be able to use the 5E builder or will we be forced to switch to 6E to keep using the builder.

My solution would be to copy(or make new) a whole new builder and essentially a new website just for 6E.
It would be easier for the programmers since they would not have to integrate old and new rules on the same builder. Internet traffic would stay just about the same since it would only change with a significant uptick in users. Even the sales porthole could stay the same for the old (piecemeal)5E and changed for the new 6E.

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Discourse is the best course, in the thread about epic boons I had an apifiny due to the discourse, and I feel like I now understand why piecemeal was removed, I also feel it makes sense in that without piecemeal we can not pick and choose the parts of the new rule books that address the longstanding shortcomings we may feel via parts of the books might address without having to buy the entire book, thus artificially inflating the success of the new books, ie if the bulk of buyers only bought the piecemeal that addressed the parts of the books that solved the perceived problems they wanted addressed the books as a whole may not sell as well as if we get the option to only buy the parts they may find beneficial to fix the issues any individual/group may have with the 2014 ruleset without buying the entire 2024 books. I may, and am likely wrong about this, but it makes sense to me, especially since I would only consider piecemeal purchases of the new ruleset for my personal reasons which are both varied and many. Either way it is wizbro's choice to do so, and I find no wrongdoing in this methodology if it happens to be true. I still think the removal of piecemeal purchases is a bad choice, though it is still their choice to make.

ALSO, this is nothing more than WILD SPECULATION on MY PART!

 

  I think you might just be correct.

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Discourse is the best course, in the thread about epic boons I had an apifiny due to the discourse, and I feel like I now understand why piecemeal was removed, I also feel it makes sense in that without piecemeal we can not pick and choose the parts of the new rule books that address the longstanding shortcomings we may feel via parts of the books might address without having to buy the entire book, thus artificially inflating the success of the new books, ie if the bulk of buyers only bought the piecemeal that addressed the parts of the books that solved the perceived problems they wanted addressed the books as a whole may not sell as well as if we get the option to only buy the parts they may find beneficial to fix the issues any individual/group may have with the 2014 ruleset without buying the entire 2024 books. I may, and am likely wrong about this, but it makes sense to me, especially since I would only consider piecemeal purchases of the new ruleset for my personal reasons which are both varied and many. Either way it is wizbro's choice to do so, and I find no wrongdoing in this methodology if it happens to be true. I still think the removal of piecemeal purchases is a bad choice, though it is still their choice to make.

ALSO, this is nothing more than WILD SPECULATION on MY PART!

 

 I can certainly see why they wouldn't want to make core rulebook items a la carte.  Thing is...they don't have to.  They could totally decide that the new core rulebooks a full purchase only and still have a la carte for other official content.  I wouldn't even be mad about that becasue it makes sense.  

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So, I reached out to customer support for a discount code on a book I'd made previously purchases for.

It took T E N days for CS to get me the code. That was after I made two follow up messages and lodged a second ticket. 

Finally, I get the code. I go to marketplace, add item to cart. Add the coupon code and ... Coupon could not be applied to this purchase. 

I think I'm done with DnDBeyond. They've broken all trust... Community managers are being thrown to the wolves to face our anger, and customer support are as useful as a white crayon in the Australian summer. 

 So does this mean that you can't both get a price reduction, based on the parts that you have already purchased And take advantage of Sales, when those are offered?  

I hope it doesn't mean that.

 I want to feel excited about the new edition that is coming out (not feel conflated, or icky when/if I make future purchases).   D&D feels weirdly personal and it would be nice just to feel generally good about all of it, including the company behind it (it feels to me like that is getting harder to do).

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Don't forget yall, dndbeyond has a twitch community livestream from 5-5:45 pm Eastern time tomorrow

 i don't know anything about twitch livestreams. is this a regular community thing or is there some sort of announcement?

 Probably some crap about upcoming 6e crap, someone will post about what it said.

I was here and commented on the OGL issue, same as I am here now commenting and curious as to what is to become of the 5e character builder? Will it still support 5e character building, or will it be changed to accommodate 6e builds? Will we be able to select which builder we would like to use?

I think the staff can pass that question on to someone who has the authority to format a response in a timely manner.

If you wouldn’t mind?

 you know, i got an email just a few days ago from roll20 that says their version of the digital d&d character sheet is going into alpha on the 18th. even more pertinent to this conversation, "the new [roll20] character sheet will be fully compatible with both 2014 and 2024 core rulebooks."

i've previously hesitated to mention competing entities but this is important: dndbeyond isn't improving and soon what dndbeyond provides won't be at all unique. THAT's some germane feedback for the feedback forums. and we're still this much engaged, devs! it usually costs big bucks to get eyeballs this consistent, doesn't it? what are you doing with your position while you have it? show us what you're made of!

I posted this on another thread:

From a ticket to support: The discount system for the D&D Beyond Marketplace is optimized to provide customers with the best discount for their purchases. At this time, discounts and offers in the Marketplace cannot be combined. If in a future sale the discount on Tomb of Annihilation was larger than the discount provided by the unique code, that is the price that would display. 

This disincentivizes me from purchasing modules I have bought a la carte in the past, because I am now paying more overall than a customer buying one now on sale does. I used to by spells/backgrounds/feats a la carte, then buy the book on sale closer to when I needed that content. The discount stacked for years. Not anymore...

I guess filling up my back catalog isn't gonna happen.