I like the idea of a single entity. A pet or summoned creature. I hate the idea of a "swarm of zombies" or "swarm of skeletons" It creates a dissonance in my mind that breaks the enjoyment of the game. Sure, I get it, it is a representation of a mass of undead. But other than 'that is just how it works' why are all my undead clumped together and unable to move independently?
The size of a swarm also causes issues. A swarm of tiny creatures works because they are tiny and take up less space so a 10' swarm makes sense. A 10' swarm of zombies doesn't and if you make it bigger than that, then it becomes so unwieldy to fit anywhere that it becomes useless.
A single creature under the Necromancer's control that can be buffed or an emanation of spirits works best in my opinion. If we can't have that, then I prefer what has been presented in this UA.
I like the idea of a single entity. A pet or summoned creature. I hate the idea of a "swarm of zombies" or "swarm of skeletons" It creates a dissonance in my mind that breaks the enjoyment of the game. Sure, I get it, it is a representation of a mass of undead. But other than 'that is just how it works' why are all my undead clumped together and unable to move independently?
Because they're being controlled by a single necromancer and don't have free will?
Honestly, I would make it so commanding a pet (any pet) costs you a bonus action, and you can give the same identical command to multiple pets, but you cannot give them individual orders without additional actions. Or if you want minimal changes to existing rules, don't set an action cost but do state that you can only give one command per turn.
Necromancer seems like the perfect opportunity to codify some sort of minion rules for 5e
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Active characters:
Edoumiaond Willegume "Eddie" Podslee, Vegetanian scholar (College of Spirits bard) Lan Kidogo, mapach archaeologist and treasure hunter (Knowledge cleric) Mardan Ferres, elven private investigator (Assassin rogue) Peter "the Pied Piper" Hausler, human con artist/remover of vermin (Circle of the Shepherd druid) Xhekhetiel, halfling survivor of a Betrayer Gods cult (Runechild sorcerer/fighter)
Conjuration seems a bit insane, gets an ability to give all summons temp hit points and resistance to everything and then can summon 2 at once but at 1/2 hit points. Those summons are crazy powerful 2 of them would be insane and with resistance and temp hit points each is more powerful than anyone else's summons.
Necromancer, i don't want that many things on the field, maybe the swarm idea im seeing in this thread is a good idea. I am glad they got rid of the dominate any undead power, that was super OP.
Enchanter: I like moving back towards 2014 abilities, but the once per long rest or use a spell limit all over the place is lame imo as the abilities are not as good as a 1st level spell. luckily its just cast, not burn but still. Instinctive charm was niche as a 6th level ability, making it worse and 10th is not a great choice.(at least the work on people immune to charm so that is good, but have have it work against all the creatures attacks that round at least otherwise shield is far better almost always) Alter memories, dude stop stop with the always prepared crap. create unique abilities even if they are similar to a spell. The old alter memories was far better.
Transmuter, nah don't make them better at wild shape than the druid. But hey lets go with giant ape..... seriously limit it to cr creatures 1/4 wizard level or something
Still overall I think most the ideas are okay, just needs some tuning. I do wish they had thrown in some warlock ones, as warlock needs the most love out of the arcane casters imo. Though I think they need more invocation support and more spells they can access even if they gatekeep it with pact of the tome.
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I like the idea of a single entity. A pet or summoned creature. I hate the idea of a "swarm of zombies" or "swarm of skeletons" It creates a dissonance in my mind that breaks the enjoyment of the game. Sure, I get it, it is a representation of a mass of undead. But other than 'that is just how it works' why are all my undead clumped together and unable to move independently?
The size of a swarm also causes issues. A swarm of tiny creatures works because they are tiny and take up less space so a 10' swarm makes sense. A 10' swarm of zombies doesn't and if you make it bigger than that, then it becomes so unwieldy to fit anywhere that it becomes useless.
A single creature under the Necromancer's control that can be buffed or an emanation of spirits works best in my opinion. If we can't have that, then I prefer what has been presented in this UA.
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Because they're being controlled by a single necromancer and don't have free will?
Honestly, I would make it so commanding a pet (any pet) costs you a bonus action, and you can give the same identical command to multiple pets, but you cannot give them individual orders without additional actions. Or if you want minimal changes to existing rules, don't set an action cost but do state that you can only give one command per turn.
Necromancer seems like the perfect opportunity to codify some sort of minion rules for 5e
Active characters:
Edoumiaond Willegume "Eddie" Podslee, Vegetanian scholar (College of Spirits bard)
Lan Kidogo, mapach archaeologist and treasure hunter (Knowledge cleric)
Mardan Ferres, elven private investigator (Assassin rogue)
Peter "the Pied Piper" Hausler, human con artist/remover of vermin (Circle of the Shepherd druid)
Xhekhetiel, halfling survivor of a Betrayer Gods cult (Runechild sorcerer/fighter)
There is some good and bad in there.
Conjuration seems a bit insane, gets an ability to give all summons temp hit points and resistance to everything and then can summon 2 at once but at 1/2 hit points. Those summons are crazy powerful 2 of them would be insane and with resistance and temp hit points each is more powerful than anyone else's summons.
Necromancer, i don't want that many things on the field, maybe the swarm idea im seeing in this thread is a good idea. I am glad they got rid of the dominate any undead power, that was super OP.
Enchanter: I like moving back towards 2014 abilities, but the once per long rest or use a spell limit all over the place is lame imo as the abilities are not as good as a 1st level spell. luckily its just cast, not burn but still. Instinctive charm was niche as a 6th level ability, making it worse and 10th is not a great choice.(at least the work on people immune to charm so that is good, but have have it work against all the creatures attacks that round at least otherwise shield is far better almost always) Alter memories, dude stop stop with the always prepared crap. create unique abilities even if they are similar to a spell. The old alter memories was far better.
Transmuter, nah don't make them better at wild shape than the druid. But hey lets go with giant ape..... seriously limit it to cr creatures 1/4 wizard level or something
Still overall I think most the ideas are okay, just needs some tuning. I do wish they had thrown in some warlock ones, as warlock needs the most love out of the arcane casters imo. Though I think they need more invocation support and more spells they can access even if they gatekeep it with pact of the tome.