Well, again, given we are in the DDB forums, yes, I expect the vast majority of people here to be people who use this site. But as for a 'desire for those specific items' again, when the demand for PDF versions is specific to them, then it begs the question, why just them? I find that question particularly significant in conjunction with the possibility I mentioned above, namely that they felt burned after the last time.
Why just them is because these options are ONLY AVAILABLE ON DDB. If there were a PDF then they would be available to EVERYONE instead of just people on DDB.
Edit: Personally, I would never expect them to release physical copies of this type of product, but to make them exclusive to DDB is the issue I have.
If this was some sort of Steam exclusive for a game available on Steam, would you have the same issue with that?
People did get annoyed at Epic when it would buy up exclusivity periods on games, and that was with the knowledge that after the period elapsed it would come to other platforms. So yes, it was the same issue. There was a big frackas about OuterWilds a while back being an epic exclusive, same with some tactics game i can't remember.
Or maybe not same, that was lesser, cause if These exclusives were timed period only before they released in other forms, I wouldn't be mad. D&D has been pen and paper for longer than i have been alive, 3rd party online for a decade and a half, and to see content gated to one specific site that was bought up and walled off is pretty irksome.
This is one of the things people were worried about when MMO monetization veterans like Chris Cao was working there, and now it has come about even though he isn't there anymore.
You are comparing a smaller DLC for a game (which is essentially what gazetteers and the like, i.e. things such as this thread is discussing, with an entire game, though.
And meanwhile, you have people out there making bank on complaining about how bad they consider 5e to be, or at least how bad they consider the newest releases all to be and yet there is simultaneously a complaint that such products are not being given wide enough distribution?
The whole situation, in context, feels far more like an excuse to complain (or perhaps to try to shame WotC into switching to easily pirate-able PDFs) than any legitimate complaint. Again, it feels too specific, too targeted.
It's less of an actual conspiracy, moreso a sharp uptick in guilty attitudes that all bad things are equally bad because they're any degree of bad, because the internet loves to do guilt by association.
I still want to know what people without the IRL conveniences of friendly affordable business spaces, non-Satanic Panic-laden community, or willing participants are supposed to do if the game has to stay pen & paper because it's tradition. Likewise, some of us do not have FUN with other stuff that exists, which is the point of a game. I don't have a choice but to use electronic Dungeons And Dragons. I've tried other stuff & not had fun. & I know I'm not the only one who's spat upon by the greater TTRPG community for being a lower-class fan.
I have never said that anything should be print only, and no one in this thread has spit on you or tried to deny you content in way that is useful to you.
I wasn't directing that at you.
You just got caught in the multi quote.
But I'm not going to stay in this thread anymore.
I'm done with TTRPG psuedo-Jimquisitionomics for a long while. It's too depressing.
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Once made Maxwell's Silver Hammer come down upon Strahd's head to make sure he was dead.
Always study & sharpen philosophical razors. They save a lot of trouble.
Well, again, given we are in the DDB forums, yes, I expect the vast majority of people here to be people who use this site. But as for a 'desire for those specific items' again, when the demand for PDF versions is specific to them, then it begs the question, why just them? I find that question particularly significant in conjunction with the possibility I mentioned above, namely that they felt burned after the last time.
Why just them is because these options are ONLY AVAILABLE ON DDB. If there were a PDF then they would be available to EVERYONE instead of just people on DDB.
Edit: Personally, I would never expect them to release physical copies of this type of product, but to make them exclusive to DDB is the issue I have.
If this was some sort of Steam exclusive for a game available on Steam, would you have the same issue with that?
People did get annoyed at Epic when it would buy up exclusivity periods on games, and that was with the knowledge that after the period elapsed it would come to other platforms. So yes, it was the same issue. There was a big frackas about OuterWilds a while back being an epic exclusive, same with some tactics game i can't remember.
Or maybe not same, that was lesser, cause if These exclusives were timed period only before they released in other forms, I wouldn't be mad. D&D has been pen and paper for longer than i have been alive, 3rd party online for a decade and a half, and to see content gated to one specific site that was bought up and walled off is pretty irksome.
This is one of the things people were worried about when MMO monetization veterans like Chris Cao was working there, and now it has come about even though he isn't there anymore.
You are comparing a smaller DLC for a game (which is essentially what gazetteers and the like, i.e. things such as this thread is discussing, with an entire game, though.
And meanwhile, you have people out there making bank on complaining about how bad they consider 5e to be, or at least how bad they consider the newest releases all to be and yet there is simultaneously a complaint that such products are not being given wide enough distribution?
The whole situation, in context, feels far more like an excuse to complain (or perhaps to try to shame WotC into switching to easily pirate-able PDFs) than any legitimate complaint. Again, it feels too specific, too targeted.
Again, Splat books and PDFs are Different, so are Printable PDFs because you can take them to other places and I am saying, the thing about this that is bad, is that it is to my knowledge, not a PDF that can be used freely, it is locked to Beyond. So no, i am not bemoaning the existence of Gazetters or splatbooks. I like those. ( If it is transferable to a PDF then I don't have a problem, and have been misinformed, and i am not about to blow a bunch of money to find out, i can't afford to right now )
Like i said in another post, platform locking is like only being able to see and use a supplement in the store i bought it at, at games run there. The platform exclusivity is what i don't like. If you want to talk "whole situation in context" you would know my position and that I make a clear distinction between "DLC" Such as platform locked exclusive content and Supplements like Splat books and other micro-material for the game, which I like. Nuance exists.
Also the people making bank about complaining about 5E being bad, are not part of this conversation and in my eyes, are idiots. I have been playing since AD&D 2nd Edition and 5E is WAY BETTER.
i don't want to play a "he smelt it delt it" but it kinda sounds like you are acting as you accuse me of doing. Looking for an argument.
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He/Him. Loooooooooong time Player. The Dark days of the THAC0 system are behind us.
"Hope is a fire that burns in us all If only an ember, awaiting your call To rise up in triumph should we all unite The spark for change is yours to ignite." Kalandra - The State of the World
Can these supplements be transferred into PDFs that i can share with my table? Some friends have told me it can't but others here have suggested it can. If anyone has, tell me, because then the problem is gone. Like i said in another post, i don't have the money to waste if it is indeed platform locked.
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He/Him. Loooooooooong time Player. The Dark days of the THAC0 system are behind us.
"Hope is a fire that burns in us all If only an ember, awaiting your call To rise up in triumph should we all unite The spark for change is yours to ignite." Kalandra - The State of the World
Can these supplements be transferred into PDFs that i can share with my table? Some friends have told me it can't but others here have suggested it can. If anyone has, tell me, because then the problem is gone. Like i said in another post, i don't have the money to waste if it is indeed platform locked.
Other than printing each webpage to PDF and then combining the files, no. D&D Beyond does not (and never has had) a way to "transfer" books on the site to PDF. The only native PDF support DDB offers is
Can these supplements be transferred into PDFs that i can share with my table? Some friends have told me it can't but others here have suggested it can. If anyone has, tell me, because then the problem is gone. Like i said in another post, i don't have the money to waste if it is indeed platform locked.
Other than printing each webpage to PDF and then combining the files, no. D&D Beyond does not (and never has had) a way to "transfer" books on the site to PDF. The only native PDF support DDB offers is
Character sheet exports
UA downloads
Book supplements and handouts
I will be careful about how I say this. The idea of trying to preserve a local copy of anything on DDB is either super impractical or against the ToS. Caveat emptor.
Can these supplements be transferred into PDFs that i can share with my table? Some friends have told me it can't but others here have suggested it can. If anyone has, tell me, because then the problem is gone. Like i said in another post, i don't have the money to waste if it is indeed platform locked.
Other than printing each webpage to PDF and then combining the files, no. D&D Beyond does not (and never has had) a way to "transfer" books on the site to PDF. The only native PDF support DDB offers is
Character sheet exports
UA downloads
Book supplements and handouts
I will be careful about how I say this. The idea of trying to preserve a local copy of anything on DDB is either super impractical or against the ToS. Caveat emptor.
The aforementioned "print to PDF" is really not that impractical (For me, File->export to PDF, for each chapter you need for local reference. For the PDF-only books, that's not many, because they're small.)
Combining the pdfs into one file is trickier, but much less important for use in offline play.
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I wasn't directing that at you.
You just got caught in the multi quote.
But I'm not going to stay in this thread anymore.
I'm done with TTRPG psuedo-Jimquisitionomics for a long while. It's too depressing.
DM, player & homebrewer(Current homebrew project is an unofficial conversion of SBURB/SGRUB from Homestuck into DND 5e)
Once made Maxwell's Silver Hammer come down upon Strahd's head to make sure he was dead.
Always study & sharpen philosophical razors. They save a lot of trouble.
For what it is worth, I am sorry you live in a place where you are unable to play with other like minded people.
She/Her Player and Dungeon Master
Again, Splat books and PDFs are Different, so are Printable PDFs because you can take them to other places and I am saying, the thing about this that is bad, is that it is to my knowledge, not a PDF that can be used freely, it is locked to Beyond. So no, i am not bemoaning the existence of Gazetters or splatbooks. I like those.
( If it is transferable to a PDF then I don't have a problem, and have been misinformed, and i am not about to blow a bunch of money to find out, i can't afford to right now )
Like i said in another post, platform locking is like only being able to see and use a supplement in the store i bought it at, at games run there. The platform exclusivity is what i don't like. If you want to talk "whole situation in context" you would know my position and that I make a clear distinction between "DLC" Such as platform locked exclusive content and Supplements like Splat books and other micro-material for the game, which I like. Nuance exists.
Also the people making bank about complaining about 5E being bad, are not part of this conversation and in my eyes, are idiots. I have been playing since AD&D 2nd Edition and 5E is WAY BETTER.
i don't want to play a "he smelt it delt it" but it kinda sounds like you are acting as you accuse me of doing. Looking for an argument.
He/Him. Loooooooooong time Player.
The Dark days of the THAC0 system are behind us.
"Hope is a fire that burns in us all If only an ember, awaiting your call
To rise up in triumph should we all unite
The spark for change is yours to ignite."
Kalandra - The State of the World
Actually imma just Straight out and ask it.
Can these supplements be transferred into PDFs that i can share with my table? Some friends have told me it can't but others here have suggested it can.
If anyone has, tell me, because then the problem is gone. Like i said in another post, i don't have the money to waste if it is indeed platform locked.
He/Him. Loooooooooong time Player.
The Dark days of the THAC0 system are behind us.
"Hope is a fire that burns in us all If only an ember, awaiting your call
To rise up in triumph should we all unite
The spark for change is yours to ignite."
Kalandra - The State of the World
Other than printing each webpage to PDF and then combining the files, no. D&D Beyond does not (and never has had) a way to "transfer" books on the site to PDF. The only native PDF support DDB offers is
Find my D&D Beyond articles here
I will be careful about how I say this. The idea of trying to preserve a local copy of anything on DDB is either super impractical or against the ToS. Caveat emptor.
The aforementioned "print to PDF" is really not that impractical (For me, File->export to PDF, for each chapter you need for local reference. For the PDF-only books, that's not many, because they're small.)
Combining the pdfs into one file is trickier, but much less important for use in offline play.