Just wanting to check if my reasoning is correct in this situation:
The Lion in the 2024 PHB can Roar at one creature within 15 ft. That creature must take a DC 11 WIS save or be Frightened.
Saving throw DCs are normally calculated as 8+PB+(Ability Modifier). The Lion’s PB is +2, so the ability modifier is +1. Its only ability modifier that matches that is Wisdom.
When Wildshaping, Druids continue to use their Intelligence, Wisdom and Charisma scores. Thus, can the Druid recalculate the saving throw DC of the Lion’s Roar using their own Wisdom modifier?
Just wanting to check if my reasoning is correct in this situation:
The Lion in the 2024 PHB can Roar at one creature within 15 ft. That creature must take a DC 11 WIS save or be Frightened.
Saving throw DCs are normally calculated as 8+PB+(Ability Modifier). The Lion’s PB is +2, so the ability modifier is +1. Its only ability modifier that matches that is Wisdom.
When Wildshaping, Druids continue to use their Intelligence, Wisdom and Charisma scores. Thus, can the Druid recalculate the saving throw DC of the Lion’s Roar using their own Wisdom modifier?
RAW, they can't recalculate. But I actually allow it. It's more fun for the player and it's not going to break the game in any way.
Thanks both. I suspected that might be the answer. I had been approaching it from the perspective of having readjusted DCs when levelling up Sidekicks. (It’s the only stat block in the new PHB where this possible situation arose.)
Thanks both. I suspected that might be the answer. I had been approaching it from the perspective of having readjusted DCs when levelling up Sidekicks. (It’s the only stat block in the new PHB where this possible situation arose.)
Yeah, exactly. I also take the Sidekicks from Tasha's as a way to do it.
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Just wanting to check if my reasoning is correct in this situation:
The Lion in the 2024 PHB can Roar at one creature within 15 ft. That creature must take a DC 11 WIS save or be Frightened.
Saving throw DCs are normally calculated as 8+PB+(Ability Modifier). The Lion’s PB is +2, so the ability modifier is +1. Its only ability modifier that matches that is Wisdom.
When Wildshaping, Druids continue to use their Intelligence, Wisdom and Charisma scores. Thus, can the Druid recalculate the saving throw DC of the Lion’s Roar using their own Wisdom modifier?
No it only says if yours is higher to take it. W/e the beasts is thats what you keep...yes its that bad, yes it was intended, yes druids are bad.
RAW, they can't recalculate. But I actually allow it. It's more fun for the player and it's not going to break the game in any way.
Thanks both. I suspected that might be the answer. I had been approaching it from the perspective of having readjusted DCs when levelling up Sidekicks. (It’s the only stat block in the new PHB where this possible situation arose.)
Yeah, exactly. I also take the Sidekicks from Tasha's as a way to do it.