If someone casts true polymorph on you into a dragon of your choice, the concentration finishes, someone else casts clone, you die once the clone has grown, then you can set the age of the age of the clone forward, then your body is permanently a dragon, and with the age being set forward you're an ancient dragon, then you can do rituals to get dragonsight, find your echoes across the multiverse, then youre a greatwyrm! I think this is a little broken.
If someone casts true polymorph on you into a dragon of your choice, the concentration finishes, someone else casts clone, you die once the clone has grown, then you can set the age of the age of the clone forward, then your body is permanently a dragon, and with the age being set forward you're an ancient dragon, then you can do rituals to get dragonsight, find your echoes across the multiverse, then youre a greatwyrm! I think this is a little broken.
The Clone spell targets the creature itself, not the effect. The fact that the underlying creature is polymorphed is irrelevant - the creature is still whatever their base form might be. Accordingly, the clone will be of the original character, not in a dragon form.
Also, the swarm of insects into elephants is also broken as well
This meme does not work under rules as written for a lot of reasons. For starters, Animal Shapes only does large or smaller creatures, while elephants are Huge. Second, swarms are typically treated as a single monster stat block, so would transform into a single creature. Third, classic ways to make swarms, like spells, create magical effects, not creatures that can be targeted. Fourth, you need to have the targets be willing under Animal Shapes.
Reverse gravity versus prismatic wall is fairly powerful, yes. Granted, it also requires a 9th level spell slot, so, at that point, you are already doing any number of extremely powerful things, and your DM should be utilizing threats commensurate with the power of this combo.
Teleporting something to the plane of water, and using a kraken to drown it
The spells that allow teleportation to a different plane are intentionally designed in a way they cannot really be used offensively - almost all of them can only be used against willing targets. The only exception is Gate, which opens a portal. For that to work, you would have to burn a ninth level spell slot, then take the additional hurdles of figuring out a way to force the creature through the Gate. That’s a lot of effort to go through and is hardly broken.
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As with most things in D&D, there’s very little that is well and truly broken. Most combos presented online as “broken” are actually just poor, incorrect readings of the rules.
Yes, I know, I was posting some memes. Though, back to the greatwrym thing, you could also do a ritual to put your soul into the creature's body, and you could do that by cloning a greatwyrm, so it could maybe be easier or harder. Also, for animal shapes, I think the insects are too low of an intelligence to be willing creatures, and even if they were, I doubt that you would stand under falling elephants as a bad guy. If the DM lets it work, it's broken.
Yes, I know, I was posting some memes. Though, back to the greatwrym thing, you could also do a ritual to put your soul into the creature's body, and you could do that by cloning a greatwyrm, so it could maybe be easier or harder. Also, for animal shapes, I think the insects are too low of an intelligence to be willing creatures, and even if they were, I doubt that you would stand under falling elephants as a bad guy. If the DM lets it work, it's broken.
I believe if it's a broken combo, then the DM won't let you use it at most tables.
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He doesn't have much besides the skin on his bones. Me: I'll take the skin on his bones, then.
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Also, the swarm of insects into elephants is also broken as well
Along with gravity+prismatic wall
and finally::
Teleporting something to the plane of water, and using a kraken to drown it
The Clone spell targets the creature itself, not the effect. The fact that the underlying creature is polymorphed is irrelevant - the creature is still whatever their base form might be. Accordingly, the clone will be of the original character, not in a dragon form.
This meme does not work under rules as written for a lot of reasons. For starters, Animal Shapes only does large or smaller creatures, while elephants are Huge. Second, swarms are typically treated as a single monster stat block, so would transform into a single creature. Third, classic ways to make swarms, like spells, create magical effects, not creatures that can be targeted. Fourth, you need to have the targets be willing under Animal Shapes.
Reverse gravity versus prismatic wall is fairly powerful, yes. Granted, it also requires a 9th level spell slot, so, at that point, you are already doing any number of extremely powerful things, and your DM should be utilizing threats commensurate with the power of this combo.
The spells that allow teleportation to a different plane are intentionally designed in a way they cannot really be used offensively - almost all of them can only be used against willing targets. The only exception is Gate, which opens a portal. For that to work, you would have to burn a ninth level spell slot, then take the additional hurdles of figuring out a way to force the creature through the Gate. That’s a lot of effort to go through and is hardly broken.
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As with most things in D&D, there’s very little that is well and truly broken. Most combos presented online as “broken” are actually just poor, incorrect readings of the rules.
Yes, I know, I was posting some memes. Though, back to the greatwrym thing, you could also do a ritual to put your soul into the creature's body, and you could do that by cloning a greatwyrm, so it could maybe be easier or harder. Also, for animal shapes, I think the insects are too low of an intelligence to be willing creatures, and even if they were, I doubt that you would stand under falling elephants as a bad guy. If the DM lets it work, it's broken.
Also, you are right. All/most broken combos are incorrect, unless their DM lets it work.
I believe if it's a broken combo, then the DM won't let you use it at most tables.
He doesn't have much besides the skin on his bones. Me: I'll take the skin on his bones, then.
"You see a gigantic, monstrous praying mantis burst from out of the ground. It sprays a stream of acid from it's mouth at one soldier, dissolving him instantly, then it turns and chomps another soldier in half with it's- "
"When are we gonna take a snack break?"