The roll above is not good enough to tell you anything more about the nature of the item, but I'll let you roll again to see if you can gain some experience points; same roll, same bonus.
"What is the history of this jewel?"
"It was given me by an admirer," Alice replies with a wink. Then she gives Guilliame a cheeky smile and adds, "For services rendered."
Guilliame is pretty sure he knows just what services Alice wants him to think she is talking about, but he is also pretty sure that Alice doesn't know just how valuable this jewel is.
The very fact that his learning so far hasn't covered such things as this tells him they are not common. Alice would likely have to work at her profession full-time for many a ten-day to earn the Engles to buy such a thing.
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Tyrus Mountson: Lvl 3 Dwarvish Bard; Waterdeep Campaign (Dragon Heist) Nanoc the Younger: Semi-retired Lvl 2 Rogue / Level 2 Barbarian Human; The Knuckle, Mror Holds, Ebberon. The Honourable Jaden Fellan: Level 3 Human Eldritch Knight; Band of Sunswall
AKA: Phillip Berrie: writer, editor and academic thrillseeker—a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.
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Explain to her that this is likely to be quite valuable so she had better be careful with who she shows it to. If she knows anything about the origins of the jewel that might help determine what it could do.
The above success means that Guilliame gains a little experience and an awareness that there is a lot more to this magick lark than he thought ;-). I have updated your character sheet, and for the moment I am also tracking experience and contacts on the campaign's public notes page.
Explain to her that this is likely to be quite valuable so she had better be careful with who she shows it to. If she knows anything about the origins of the jewel that might help determine what it could do.
Alice's eyes light up when Guilliame tells her that it is 'quite' valuable, but she scoffs at him when he gives her his warning, saying, "I'm no fool, Guilliame. I know what not to do."
Then she looks at him in a decidedly calculating manner and says, "So, how much do I owe? And... would you be interested in buying it?"
Questions for Phill - What is cost of components for spells? Has Guilliame charged for this sort of service before or heard of others charging for it. Do I have any sense of value of the amulet as an item - what is it made of? Have I heard of any thefts or deaths (apart from warlord - is this something he might have possessed?)
Say to Alice before I think about buying it I would need to know more about who and where it came from, and what it is capable of doing. Has she seen any magick associated with the amulet?
Questions for Phill - What is cost of components for spells?
Hard to say. Some spell's components have a specific cost associated with them (see the value of Guilliame's pearl that he uses for his Identify spell, click on the spell on your online character sheet and it will show you some of the spell's details). Other lesser components will depend on what the market will bear and whether the component is consumed in the casting of the spell (e.g., the pearl and owl feather required for the Identify spell are not consumed by the casting of the spell). The latter are the type of components that Guilliame normally deals with and these prices we will have to come up with as we go along. However, this is also a market where there is some competition.
Has Guilliame charged for this sort of service before or heard of others charging for it.
Guilliame has only recently learnt his magic, so he hasn't done this before. He knows there are other users of magic in town who charge for this service, including some of the masters of the school, but they don't advertise their prices, so Guilliame would need to make enquiries. However, he suspects the normal fees for this service would be measured in engles (gold pieces) rather the constantines (silver pieces).
Do I have any sense of value of the amulet as an item - what is it made of?
It is not an amulet. Considering its design, Guilliame believes it is something that a high-class woman might use in her hair, though it is not a pretty example of such an item of jewellery. It is made of silver metal and has lots fine silver wires elaborately curled and shaped that are attached to a basic silver plate. He believes it might need an extra pin to help secure it in place, but Alice didn't hand him a pin.
As to the value of the item: its weight in silver is probably the equivalent of 5 constantines; it isn't very pretty, so Guilliame doesn't think it would have much aesthetic value. The true value of this item would be dependent on the magic it possesses, which is as yet unknown. Once again, the value of such items would probably be measured in gold rather than silver coins.
[OOC: Note: I might make some modifications to how the Identify spell works (so that it requires a skill check based on caster's level) because I think it is too overpowered as it is currently defined in the rules as written.]
Have I heard of any thefts or deaths (apart from warlord - is this something he might have possessed?)
It is not something the warlord would have worn; he was a very manly man. As to other events, Guilliame would need to make enquiries.
Say to Alice before I think about buying it I would need to know more about who and where it came from, and what it is capable of doing. Has she seen any magick associated with the amulet?
"Uh, uh," says Alice, turning and looking toward the door. "One chance to buy. There are other people I know who will be interested in it, now that I know it's magical."
OOC - Do I think someone at the school (maybe Wamzut) may be interested in this item?
Explain to Alice that I may be able to tell her more about the spell tomorrow if she is willing to wait. If she wants to meet again arrange a meeting time and place. Also say that the item is probably beyond my budget but I can ask around the school to see if there is anyone interested if she likes. If she doesn't then I won't ask.
Because you are a friend and this has been of interest to me I won't charge for my time.
OOC - Do I think someone at the school (maybe Wamzut) may be interested in this item?
OOC: I can't answer that question ;-) However, in character, it would depend on what the jewel does. From what he was able to see using his See the Arcane cantrip, there isn't a lot of magick involved in the jewel, so perhaps the effect isn't strong.
Explain to Alice that I may be able to tell her more about the spell tomorrow if she is willing to wait. If she wants to meet again arrange a meeting time and place. Also say that the item is probably beyond my budget but I can ask around the school to see if there is anyone interested if she likes. If she doesn't then I won't ask.
Because you are a friend and this has been of interest to me I won't charge for my time.
At this point, I am going to have to ask whether you, as a player, plan to do as you have had Guilliame say. If you plan for him to do otherwise, then I need you to roll a Deception check for Alice to test her Insight skill against. Deception is a skill you don't have proficiency in or any bonus for, so you should just roll a straight d20. If not, I will make Alice's Insight roll just to see if she has any doubts about what you say.
Note, that I have homebrew rules—which I have yet to put on the World Anvil site—that will make your roll in this circumstance uncertain. What you roll on the die will be modified by me randomly by up to 3 points, either in your favour or against you. The same rule will also apply for Alice and other NPCs in the future. This mechanic is used for skill checks where the results shouldn't be so clear cut, such as this one.
After Guilliame tells Alice his plan to further investigate the jewel and that he doesn't want any payment, she thinks for a moment and then gives him a long calculating look.
OOC - I've checked Guilliame's character sheet but I can't find cash holdings. This may change my thinking about whether I can afford to make an offer.
At this point, I am going to have to ask whether you, as a player, plan to do as you have had Guilliame say.
I had thought about this and I was going do exactly what I said (I did contemplate other thoughts but not for long).
OOC - I've checked Guilliame's character sheet but I can't find cash holdings. This may change my thinking about whether I can afford to make an offer.
If you click on the 'Equipment' tab, Guilliame's Player Handbook (PHB) coins are in the top right-hand corner. This is what I decided he had left over after I bought the equipment he has listed at PHB prices. Converting this to Engelian money means he has 1.5 Engles. I have added a campaign coin breakdown to the 'Other' tab under the 'Notes' category. It is as follows: 1 Engle, 4 Constantines, 7 Lions and 30 Cubs. He does have other assets, such as the pearl he uses for his Identify spell (worth 10 Engles), but he would have to sell these to get their value in coin. Also, remember that at the moment the business is losing 1 Constantine a day on average.
At this point, I am going to have to ask whether you, as a player, plan to do as you have had Guilliame say.
I had thought about this and I was going do exactly what I said (I did contemplate other thoughts but not for long).
"That valuable, huh?" Alice says and then she's silent for a moment, obviously weighing up the pros and cons.
"Okay," she finally says, "When do you want me to come back?"
Then she adds, "And if it really is that valuable, I'll be wanting you to take a cut; I don't steal from my friends."
And then, as an apparent afterthought, she says, "Oh, and I wouldn't be telling the people at your School about it, if you know what I mean."
Do I have an hour free in my schedule tomorrow? If so arrange that time. Suggest we met at the shop again.
Alice agrees to meet Guilliame here at the shop at the fourth candle call after sun-up, which is about the current time of day.
I promise Alice I won't tell anyone at the school about the gem.
She believes Guilliame and apparently trust him to do as he says. Guilliame also gets the feeling it would be in your own best interests not to.
If we have mutual acquaintances ask about them.
Unless, you want to ask specific questions, I will summarise the conversation here:
Her brother, Rolf, has gone a-sailing and is employed on a ship that makes regular runs up and down the coast of Engle to Gethelric in Gont.
One of the boys you used to run with, Pater, was convicted of aggravated assault and has not been heard of since he was sent away to do hard time in one of the Imperial mines in Goth, the province to the west of Engle.
Stink-eye, another of Guilliame's former rough crowd, is still in Constantine and she warns Guilliame to stay away from him as he's not the sort of person a respectable business person should associate with.
The conversation is interrupted by Naomi calling from her bedroom demanding a cup of char (i.e., tea-equivalent).
Guilliame has one last chance to talk with Alice—who has been doing a lot of yawning—before she goes.
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Tyrus Mountson: Lvl 3 Dwarvish Bard; Waterdeep Campaign (Dragon Heist) Nanoc the Younger: Semi-retired Lvl 2 Rogue / Level 2 Barbarian Human; The Knuckle, Mror Holds, Ebberon. The Honourable Jaden Fellan: Level 3 Human Eldritch Knight; Band of Sunswall
AKA: Phillip Berrie: writer, editor and academic thrillseeker—a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.
"Looking forward to seeing you tomorrow. I'll definitely keep this to myself. Perhaps we could have a drink afterwards."
OOC Just a couple of clarifications - what sort of information do I think I would get if I cast an Identify spell on the Jartinal Weed? I see I can't do this tomorrow if I cast the one on the jewel.
"Looking forward to seeing you tomorrow. I'll definitely keep this to myself. Perhaps we could have a drink afterwards."
OOC Just a couple of clarifications - what sort of information do I think I would get if I cast an Identify spell on the Jartinal Weed? I see I can't do this tomorrow if I cast the one on the jewel.
I have clarified the text: casting the Identify spell on the same item requires a long rest to get new results.
A character can cast the Identify spell on a different item without requiring a long rest. And, if cast as a ritual, it doesn't cost a spell slot (i.e., Guilliame currently has two 1st level spell slots and an unlimited number of cantrip spell slots).
With regard to casting it on the jartinal weed: Guilliame doesn't think it would reveal much because the spell allows the caster to pick up on the psychic residue of the people who have manipulated an object, which doesn't really apply to the weed. If he were to have a pipe used by a jartinal smoker, then that would be a very different matter.
[OOC: I am going to assume Guilliame cast this spell as a ritual so that he doesn't use a spell slot. Even using a spell slot, the spell would take a minute to cast. If I haven't told you this already, you can find out the casting requirements of a spell by clicking on its entry on your character sheet.]
Guilliame makes char for Naomi and takes it into her bedroom only to find she has gone out back to the lavatory.
He leaves the cup of char and takes his grandmother's pipe with him to his own bedroom where he takes out his most-valuable magical component: the pearl that cost him 10 engles.
With the pipe held in his left hand, he goes through the motions of the ritual and over the next eleven minutes feels his connection with the pipe growing stronger. Then he starts to experience things, which can only be coming from his connection with the pipe. The first is an image of his grandmother and a distinct feeling of ownership. Then he hears a name being repeated: 'Naomi'. These experienced sounds are quickly followed by a collage of images of a place, which he instantly recognises as his own home. After a while, he begin to see the image of man; another person he knows: his father, but a younger version of the man who passed away last year. It becomes harder to get anything more, but eventually he see the image of another man. A man he doesn't know. A man using woodworking tools... There is nothing more to be seen.
Guilliame is brought back to reality by the sound of someone knocking on his door.
"Guilliame?" says his grandmother. "Have you seen my pipe? I can't find it."
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Tyrus Mountson: Lvl 3 Dwarvish Bard; Waterdeep Campaign (Dragon Heist) Nanoc the Younger: Semi-retired Lvl 2 Rogue / Level 2 Barbarian Human; The Knuckle, Mror Holds, Ebberon. The Honourable Jaden Fellan: Level 3 Human Eldritch Knight; Band of Sunswall
AKA: Phillip Berrie: writer, editor and academic thrillseeker—a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.
[OOC: If you scroll to the bottom of the article for Negress Black on the campaign setting site, can you see and click on a button that has the label 'secrets'. If you can, please let me know. If this works, then I will be using this facility in the future to keep some stuff secret for Guilliame and not visible to other potential future players.]
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Tyrus Mountson: Lvl 3 Dwarvish Bard; Waterdeep Campaign (Dragon Heist) Nanoc the Younger: Semi-retired Lvl 2 Rogue / Level 2 Barbarian Human; The Knuckle, Mror Holds, Ebberon. The Honourable Jaden Fellan: Level 3 Human Eldritch Knight; Band of Sunswall
AKA: Phillip Berrie: writer, editor and academic thrillseeker—a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.
[OOC: If you scroll to the bottom of the article for Negress Black on the campaign setting site, can you see and click on a button that has the label 'secrets'. If you can, please let me know. If this works, then I will be using this facility in the future to keep some stuff secret for Guilliame and not visible to other potential future players.]
No. I can see something that says visibility set to Guilliame but no secrets option and no more information than previously.
Give Naomi back her pipe. Ask Naomi where she got the pipe from.
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"What is the history of this jewel?"
"It was given me by an admirer," Alice replies with a wink. Then she gives Guilliame a cheeky smile and adds, "For services rendered."
Guilliame is pretty sure he knows just what services Alice wants him to think she is talking about, but he is also pretty sure that Alice doesn't know just how valuable this jewel is.
The very fact that his learning so far hasn't covered such things as this tells him they are not common. Alice would likely have to work at her profession full-time for many a ten-day to earn the Engles to buy such a thing.
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Tyrus Mountson: Lvl 3 Dwarvish Bard; Waterdeep Campaign (Dragon Heist)
Nanoc the Younger: Semi-retired Lvl 2 Rogue / Level 2 Barbarian Human; The Knuckle, Mror Holds, Ebberon.
The Honourable Jaden Fellan: Level 3 Human Eldritch Knight; Band of Sunswall
AKA: Phillip Berrie: writer, editor and academic thrillseeker—a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.
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Explain to her that this is likely to be quite valuable so she had better be careful with who she shows it to. If she knows anything about the origins of the jewel that might help determine what it could do.
Alice's eyes light up when Guilliame tells her that it is 'quite' valuable, but she scoffs at him when he gives her his warning, saying, "I'm no fool, Guilliame. I know what not to do."
Then she looks at him in a decidedly calculating manner and says, "So, how much do I owe? And... would you be interested in buying it?"
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Tyrus Mountson: Lvl 3 Dwarvish Bard; Waterdeep Campaign (Dragon Heist)
Nanoc the Younger: Semi-retired Lvl 2 Rogue / Level 2 Barbarian Human; The Knuckle, Mror Holds, Ebberon.
The Honourable Jaden Fellan: Level 3 Human Eldritch Knight; Band of Sunswall
AKA: Phillip Berrie: writer, editor and academic thrillseeker—a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.
Questions for Phill - What is cost of components for spells? Has Guilliame charged for this sort of service before or heard of others charging for it. Do I have any sense of value of the amulet as an item - what is it made of? Have I heard of any thefts or deaths (apart from warlord - is this something he might have possessed?)
Say to Alice before I think about buying it I would need to know more about who and where it came from, and what it is capable of doing. Has she seen any magick associated with the amulet?
"Uh, uh," says Alice, turning and looking toward the door. "One chance to buy. There are other people I know who will be interested in it, now that I know it's magical."
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Tyrus Mountson: Lvl 3 Dwarvish Bard; Waterdeep Campaign (Dragon Heist)
Nanoc the Younger: Semi-retired Lvl 2 Rogue / Level 2 Barbarian Human; The Knuckle, Mror Holds, Ebberon.
The Honourable Jaden Fellan: Level 3 Human Eldritch Knight; Band of Sunswall
AKA: Phillip Berrie: writer, editor and academic thrillseeker—a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.
Question for Phil - Will casting another Identify spell later (could be tomorrow) possibly work or is it a one-off succeed/fail per item.
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Tyrus Mountson: Lvl 3 Dwarvish Bard; Waterdeep Campaign (Dragon Heist)
Nanoc the Younger: Semi-retired Lvl 2 Rogue / Level 2 Barbarian Human; The Knuckle, Mror Holds, Ebberon.
The Honourable Jaden Fellan: Level 3 Human Eldritch Knight; Band of Sunswall
AKA: Phillip Berrie: writer, editor and academic thrillseeker—a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.
OOC - Do I think someone at the school (maybe Wamzut) may be interested in this item?
Explain to Alice that I may be able to tell her more about the spell tomorrow if she is willing to wait. If she wants to meet again arrange a meeting time and place. Also say that the item is probably beyond my budget but I can ask around the school to see if there is anyone interested if she likes. If she doesn't then I won't ask.
Because you are a friend and this has been of interest to me I won't charge for my time.
After Guilliame tells Alice his plan to further investigate the jewel and that he doesn't want any payment, she thinks for a moment and then gives him a long calculating look.
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Tyrus Mountson: Lvl 3 Dwarvish Bard; Waterdeep Campaign (Dragon Heist)
Nanoc the Younger: Semi-retired Lvl 2 Rogue / Level 2 Barbarian Human; The Knuckle, Mror Holds, Ebberon.
The Honourable Jaden Fellan: Level 3 Human Eldritch Knight; Band of Sunswall
AKA: Phillip Berrie: writer, editor and academic thrillseeker—a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.
OOC - I've checked Guilliame's character sheet but I can't find cash holdings. This may change my thinking about whether I can afford to make an offer.
At this point, I am going to have to ask whether you, as a player, plan to do as you have had Guilliame say.
I had thought about this and I was going do exactly what I said (I did contemplate other thoughts but not for long).
"That valuable, huh?" Alice says and then she's silent for a moment, obviously weighing up the pros and cons.
"Okay," she finally says, "When do you want me to come back?"
Then she adds, "And if it really is that valuable, I'll be wanting you to take a cut; I don't steal from my friends."
And then, as an apparent afterthought, she says, "Oh, and I wouldn't be telling the people at your School about it, if you know what I mean."
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Tyrus Mountson: Lvl 3 Dwarvish Bard; Waterdeep Campaign (Dragon Heist)
Nanoc the Younger: Semi-retired Lvl 2 Rogue / Level 2 Barbarian Human; The Knuckle, Mror Holds, Ebberon.
The Honourable Jaden Fellan: Level 3 Human Eldritch Knight; Band of Sunswall
AKA: Phillip Berrie: writer, editor and academic thrillseeker—a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.
Do I have an hour free in my schedule tomorrow? If so arrange that time. Suggest we met at the shop again.
I promise Alice I won't tell anyone at the school about the gem.
If we have mutual acquaintances ask about them.
The conversation is interrupted by Naomi calling from her bedroom demanding a cup of char (i.e., tea-equivalent).
Guilliame has one last chance to talk with Alice—who has been doing a lot of yawning—before she goes.
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Tyrus Mountson: Lvl 3 Dwarvish Bard; Waterdeep Campaign (Dragon Heist)
Nanoc the Younger: Semi-retired Lvl 2 Rogue / Level 2 Barbarian Human; The Knuckle, Mror Holds, Ebberon.
The Honourable Jaden Fellan: Level 3 Human Eldritch Knight; Band of Sunswall
AKA: Phillip Berrie: writer, editor and academic thrillseeker—a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.
"Looking forward to seeing you tomorrow. I'll definitely keep this to myself. Perhaps we could have a drink afterwards."
OOC Just a couple of clarifications - what sort of information do I think I would get if I cast an Identify spell on the Jartinal Weed? I see I can't do this tomorrow if I cast the one on the jewel.
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Tyrus Mountson: Lvl 3 Dwarvish Bard; Waterdeep Campaign (Dragon Heist)
Nanoc the Younger: Semi-retired Lvl 2 Rogue / Level 2 Barbarian Human; The Knuckle, Mror Holds, Ebberon.
The Honourable Jaden Fellan: Level 3 Human Eldritch Knight; Band of Sunswall
AKA: Phillip Berrie: writer, editor and academic thrillseeker—a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.
Make Naomi some tea.
Then cast an Identify spell on Naomi's pipe if she is finished with it.
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[OOC: I am going to assume Guilliame cast this spell as a ritual so that he doesn't use a spell slot. Even using a spell slot, the spell would take a minute to cast. If I haven't told you this already, you can find out the casting requirements of a spell by clicking on its entry on your character sheet.]
Guilliame makes char for Naomi and takes it into her bedroom only to find she has gone out back to the lavatory.
He leaves the cup of char and takes his grandmother's pipe with him to his own bedroom where he takes out his most-valuable magical component: the pearl that cost him 10 engles.
With the pipe held in his left hand, he goes through the motions of the ritual and over the next eleven minutes feels his connection with the pipe growing stronger. Then he starts to experience things, which can only be coming from his connection with the pipe. The first is an image of his grandmother and a distinct feeling of ownership. Then he hears a name being repeated: 'Naomi'. These experienced sounds are quickly followed by a collage of images of a place, which he instantly recognises as his own home. After a while, he begin to see the image of man; another person he knows: his father, but a younger version of the man who passed away last year. It becomes harder to get anything more, but eventually he see the image of another man. A man he doesn't know. A man using woodworking tools... There is nothing more to be seen.
Guilliame is brought back to reality by the sound of someone knocking on his door.
"Guilliame?" says his grandmother. "Have you seen my pipe? I can't find it."
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Tyrus Mountson: Lvl 3 Dwarvish Bard; Waterdeep Campaign (Dragon Heist)
Nanoc the Younger: Semi-retired Lvl 2 Rogue / Level 2 Barbarian Human; The Knuckle, Mror Holds, Ebberon.
The Honourable Jaden Fellan: Level 3 Human Eldritch Knight; Band of Sunswall
AKA: Phillip Berrie: writer, editor and academic thrillseeker—a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.
[OOC: If you scroll to the bottom of the article for Negress Black on the campaign setting site, can you see and click on a button that has the label 'secrets'. If you can, please let me know. If this works, then I will be using this facility in the future to keep some stuff secret for Guilliame and not visible to other potential future players.]
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Tyrus Mountson: Lvl 3 Dwarvish Bard; Waterdeep Campaign (Dragon Heist)
Nanoc the Younger: Semi-retired Lvl 2 Rogue / Level 2 Barbarian Human; The Knuckle, Mror Holds, Ebberon.
The Honourable Jaden Fellan: Level 3 Human Eldritch Knight; Band of Sunswall
AKA: Phillip Berrie: writer, editor and academic thrillseeker—a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.
[OOC: If you scroll to the bottom of the article for Negress Black on the campaign setting site, can you see and click on a button that has the label 'secrets'. If you can, please let me know. If this works, then I will be using this facility in the future to keep some stuff secret for Guilliame and not visible to other potential future players.]
No. I can see something that says visibility set to Guilliame but no secrets option and no more information than previously.
Give Naomi back her pipe. Ask Naomi where she got the pipe from.