Do remember that it is fully possible (likely even) that these unconfirmed and unverified "leaks" are nothing but inaccurate rumors. At this moment in time, we really don't know. Just because one company said something might happen and a bunch of other people used them as sources doesn't mean that they are correct. I personally am going to wait until Wizards of the Coast confirms or denies these rumors before I start panicking.
Kickstarter confirmed them when they spoke on them saying they were not given a special prize and that they haggled WoTc down to get the 25% lowered to 20% for the creators sake.
Just to clarify. The leaked document gave the figures 20 and 25 percent. Kickstarter only confirmed that they negotiated a lower rate on behalf of creators. They did not confirm the amount. That doesn't mean it is or isn't those numbers. Just trying to keep the facts straight for everyone with what we know.
They also didn't say the percentage was wrong, and gave no hint to it being false.
Try not to read more into silence than is actually there.
No comment means no comment. It could be accurate, or it could be inaccurate. They may be prohibited, by NDA, from discussing it further. Quit the doomsaying.
At this point I'd say quit putting your head in the sand. That was the OGL 1.1. Whether it survives the absolute crap storm that hit them the last week is unlikely at this point, unless they are really really tone deaf.
Do remember that it is fully possible (likely even) that these unconfirmed and unverified "leaks" are nothing but inaccurate rumors. At this moment in time, we really don't know. Just because one company said something might happen and a bunch of other people used them as sources doesn't mean that they are correct. I personally am going to wait until Wizards of the Coast confirms or denies these rumors before I start panicking.
Kickstarter confirmed them when they spoke on them saying they were not given a special prize and that they haggled WoTc down to get the 25% lowered to 20% for the creators sake.
Just to clarify. The leaked document gave the figures 20 and 25 percent. Kickstarter only confirmed that they negotiated a lower rate on behalf of creators. They did not confirm the amount. That doesn't mean it is or isn't those numbers. Just trying to keep the facts straight for everyone with what we know.
They also didn't say the percentage was wrong, and gave no hint to it being false.
Try not to read more into silence than is actually there.
No comment means no comment. It could be accurate, or it could be inaccurate. They may be prohibited, by NDA, from discussing it further. Quit the doomsaying.
At this point I'd say quit putting your head in the sand. That was the OGL 1.1. Whether it survives the absolute crap storm that hit them the last week is unlikely at this point, unless they are really really tone deaf.
My head isn't in the sand. What I do know is the actual 3PP know better than every last one of us. It's their livelihoods on the line. They already have attorneys, who specialize in copyright and trademark law, looking into this.
If you only ever run first party content, then the OGL doesn't affect you. If you care about these companies, then you do care. Trust them to handle this and make the best decisions for themselves.
Do remember that it is fully possible (likely even) that these unconfirmed and unverified "leaks" are nothing but inaccurate rumors. At this moment in time, we really don't know. Just because one company said something might happen and a bunch of other people used them as sources doesn't mean that they are correct. I personally am going to wait until Wizards of the Coast confirms or denies these rumors before I start panicking.
Kickstarter confirmed them when they spoke on them saying they were not given a special prize and that they haggled WoTc down to get the 25% lowered to 20% for the creators sake.
Just to clarify. The leaked document gave the figures 20 and 25 percent. Kickstarter only confirmed that they negotiated a lower rate on behalf of creators. They did not confirm the amount. That doesn't mean it is or isn't those numbers. Just trying to keep the facts straight for everyone with what we know.
They also didn't say the percentage was wrong, and gave no hint to it being false.
Try not to read more into silence than is actually there.
No comment means no comment. It could be accurate, or it could be inaccurate. They may be prohibited, by NDA, from discussing it further. Quit the doomsaying.
At this point I'd say quit putting your head in the sand. That was the OGL 1.1. Whether it survives the absolute crap storm that hit them the last week is unlikely at this point, unless they are really really tone deaf.
My head isn't in the sand. What I do know is the actual 3PP know better than every last one of us. It's their livelihoods on the line. They already have attorneys, who specialize in copyright and trademark law, looking into this.
If you only ever run first party content, then the OGL doesn't affect you. If you care about these companies, then you do care. Trust them to handle this and make the best decisions for themselves.
There are better ways to make money than gutting the OGL. We shouldn't trust the companies because the companies are very different from the game developers. Hasbro higher ups are very different from WotC developers. Never underestimate corporate greed.
We should make it very clear to these higher ups that if they do anything similar to the rumored leaks, that they stem to lose a lot more money than they will make.
Do remember that it is fully possible (likely even) that these unconfirmed and unverified "leaks" are nothing but inaccurate rumors. At this moment in time, we really don't know. Just because one company said something might happen and a bunch of other people used them as sources doesn't mean that they are correct. I personally am going to wait until Wizards of the Coast confirms or denies these rumors before I start panicking.
Kickstarter confirmed them when they spoke on them saying they were not given a special prize and that they haggled WoTc down to get the 25% lowered to 20% for the creators sake.
Nonsense. Kickstarter negotiated a lower rate to encourage creators to keep using their platform so that Kickstarter can get their cut of the funds raised. It just so happens that it also benefits creators but that is not why they negotiated it. I suspect Kickstarter's deal is "5% lower royalties than otherwise." Rather than a specific number.
Do remember that it is fully possible (likely even) that these unconfirmed and unverified "leaks" are nothing but inaccurate rumors. At this moment in time, we really don't know. Just because one company said something might happen and a bunch of other people used them as sources doesn't mean that they are correct. I personally am going to wait until Wizards of the Coast confirms or denies these rumors before I start panicking.
Kickstarter confirmed them when they spoke on them saying they were not given a special prize and that they haggled WoTc down to get the 25% lowered to 20% for the creators sake.
Nonsense. Kickstarter negotiated a lower rate to encourage creators to keep using their platform so that Kickstarter can get their cut of the funds raised. It just so happens that it also benefits creators but that is not why they negotiated it. I suspect Kickstarter's deal is "5% lower royalties than otherwise." Rather than a specific number.
Do remember that it is fully possible (likely even) that these unconfirmed and unverified "leaks" are nothing but inaccurate rumors. At this moment in time, we really don't know. Just because one company said something might happen and a bunch of other people used them as sources doesn't mean that they are correct. I personally am going to wait until Wizards of the Coast confirms or denies these rumors before I start panicking.
Kickstarter confirmed them when they spoke on them saying they were not given a special prize and that they haggled WoTc down to get the 25% lowered to 20% for the creators sake.
Nonsense. Kickstarter negotiated a lower rate to encourage creators to keep using their platform so that Kickstarter can get their cut of the funds raised. It just so happens that it also benefits creators but that is not why they negotiated it. I suspect Kickstarter's deal is "5% lower royalties than otherwise." Rather than a specific number.
Its still confirmation...
It is and it isn't. The claims in the article weren't disputed in any way, but they also weren't explicitly affirmed. He communicated as though the claims in the article were true, which might be enough for some people. But it's also beating around the proverbial bush. There are likely legal reasons why more wasn't publicly stated.
Do remember that it is fully possible (likely even) that these unconfirmed and unverified "leaks" are nothing but inaccurate rumors. At this moment in time, we really don't know. Just because one company said something might happen and a bunch of other people used them as sources doesn't mean that they are correct. I personally am going to wait until Wizards of the Coast confirms or denies these rumors before I start panicking.
Kickstarter confirmed them when they spoke on them saying they were not given a special prize and that they haggled WoTc down to get the 25% lowered to 20% for the creators sake.
Nonsense. Kickstarter negotiated a lower rate to encourage creators to keep using their platform so that Kickstarter can get their cut of the funds raised. It just so happens that it also benefits creators but that is not why they negotiated it. I suspect Kickstarter's deal is "5% lower royalties than otherwise." Rather than a specific number.
Its still confirmation...
It is and it isn't. The claims in the article weren't disputed in any way, but they also weren't explicitly affirmed. He communicated as though the claims in the article were true, which might be enough for some people. But it's also beating around the proverbial bush. There are likely legal reasons why more wasn't publicly stated.
Would like assistance? I think your head is stuck?
Do remember that it is fully possible (likely even) that these unconfirmed and unverified "leaks" are nothing but inaccurate rumors. At this moment in time, we really don't know. Just because one company said something might happen and a bunch of other people used them as sources doesn't mean that they are correct. I personally am going to wait until Wizards of the Coast confirms or denies these rumors before I start panicking.
Kickstarter confirmed them when they spoke on them saying they were not given a special prize and that they haggled WoTc down to get the 25% lowered to 20% for the creators sake.
Nonsense. Kickstarter negotiated a lower rate to encourage creators to keep using their platform so that Kickstarter can get their cut of the funds raised. It just so happens that it also benefits creators but that is not why they negotiated it. I suspect Kickstarter's deal is "5% lower royalties than otherwise." Rather than a specific number.
Its still confirmation...
It is and it isn't. The claims in the article weren't disputed in any way, but they also weren't explicitly affirmed. He communicated as though the claims in the article were true, which might be enough for some people. But it's also beating around the proverbial bush. There are likely legal reasons why more wasn't publicly stated.
Would like assistance? I think your head is stuck?
You're the second person who has been rude enough to imply I'm ignoring reality.
Next time, give me something to care about.
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At this point I'd say quit putting your head in the sand. That was the OGL 1.1. Whether it survives the absolute crap storm that hit them the last week is unlikely at this point, unless they are really really tone deaf.
My head isn't in the sand. What I do know is the actual 3PP know better than every last one of us. It's their livelihoods on the line. They already have attorneys, who specialize in copyright and trademark law, looking into this.
If you only ever run first party content, then the OGL doesn't affect you. If you care about these companies, then you do care. Trust them to handle this and make the best decisions for themselves.
There are better ways to make money than gutting the OGL. We shouldn't trust the companies because the companies are very different from the game developers. Hasbro higher ups are very different from WotC developers. Never underestimate corporate greed.
We should make it very clear to these higher ups that if they do anything similar to the rumored leaks, that they stem to lose a lot more money than they will make.
Nonsense. Kickstarter negotiated a lower rate to encourage creators to keep using their platform so that Kickstarter can get their cut of the funds raised. It just so happens that it also benefits creators but that is not why they negotiated it. I suspect Kickstarter's deal is "5% lower royalties than otherwise." Rather than a specific number.
Its still confirmation...
It is and it isn't. The claims in the article weren't disputed in any way, but they also weren't explicitly affirmed. He communicated as though the claims in the article were true, which might be enough for some people. But it's also beating around the proverbial bush. There are likely legal reasons why more wasn't publicly stated.
Would like assistance? I think your head is stuck?
You're the second person who has been rude enough to imply I'm ignoring reality.
Next time, give me something to care about.