im making a character that is an aasimar and i wanna do warlock but my favorite is undead warlock. I was going to do Leira as a her patron but im wondering if people would think that works or if its too much of a stretch? Im thinking it works because its believed the Leira is dead but shes not. let me know your thoughts. I just dont like celestial warlock..
im making a character that is an aasimar and i wanna do warlock but my favorite is undead warlock. I was going to do Leira as a her patron but im wondering if people would think that works or if its too much of a stretch? Im thinking it works because its believed the Leira is dead but shes not. let me know your thoughts. I just dont like celestial warlock..
That sounds like the sort of thing you'd want to work out with your DM.
Eh... really the general theme for Warlocks as presented is it's a different paradigm from the Cleric mortal/deity one, with something besides gods on the patron side of the equation. The 2014 PHB very explicitly says that Warlock patrons aren't gods in the D&D sense, and even "do whatever" 2024 conspicuously doesn't include gods themselves in the list of example patrons, either in general or for the Celestial Warlock in particular. Not familiar with Leira as a character/figure in any of the lore, so I can't speak to that directly, but if she's a full deity she's outside the indicated pool of patrons, and if she's not actually dead/undead or anything it's rather a stretch to try and make a character who is associated with her and gets undeath related powers from it.
I suppose one option if you absolutely must have both those points could be that your pact is with the ghost of a saint or something associated with the deity who has somehow come into play. Provides correlation to both the powers and the ultimate figure.
Well damn, I was thinking maybe the patron could be a undead wizard from before the calamity. An Aorean maybe or from another floating city. Buried under the ice up north hoping to be freed in exchange for power https://100001****/https://1921681254.mx/ .
Player & DM should choose patron, but in the end the Warlock can make a pact who just about anything, even another entity than it think. Leira, being the Goddess of Deception & Illusion believed to be dead could play on this aspect. Undead essentially say you've made a pact with a deathless being, a creature that defies the cycle and life and death afterall. By the late 15th century DR, it became known that Leira was in fact alive and delighted in the confusion created by rumors of her demise and return....
I would allow an Aasimar Undead Warlock of Leira without problem if one my player wanted to play that.
If interested in additional lore, one of Leira alias is Mistshadow, and her manifestion typically include:
Manifestations Gray, smoke-like mists, often accompanied by two piercing black eyes or simply the sensation of being intensely watched, and by a chiming, unearthly, apparently random music that came out of nowhere and seemed unconcerned with anything (such as forming a tune, or even a rhythm); a disembodied voice, sometimes perceived only by those who worship Leira.
I would think Myrkul is a better choice for a Paladin that also makes a warlock contract with undead as liches have served Myrkul before, so Myrkul as a Cleric Patron and one of Myrkul's Cleric-Liches as a Warlock Patron would work. That said I am not familiar enough with Leira to know if Leira had Lich followers or not.
Imo, as a DM, my workaround would be coordinating with my player to create an NPC that serves the god.
Let’s say there was a lich or vampire that swore allegiance to the god before they were transformed into an undead. They strayed from their oath and violated themselves into becoming a monster. The god, pitying their vassal but also wanting to teach them a lesson, keeps them in their current form but calls on them to fulfill their oath and serve the god as a herald or representative.
Warlock makes pact with said creature, serving the god through said pact. Profit.
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im making a character that is an aasimar and i wanna do warlock but my favorite is undead warlock. I was going to do Leira as a her patron but im wondering if people would think that works or if its too much of a stretch? Im thinking it works because its believed the Leira is dead but shes not. let me know your thoughts. I just dont like celestial warlock..
That sounds like the sort of thing you'd want to work out with your DM.
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Patrons are often gods. I don't see the problem.
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Eh... really the general theme for Warlocks as presented is it's a different paradigm from the Cleric mortal/deity one, with something besides gods on the patron side of the equation. The 2014 PHB very explicitly says that Warlock patrons aren't gods in the D&D sense, and even "do whatever" 2024 conspicuously doesn't include gods themselves in the list of example patrons, either in general or for the Celestial Warlock in particular. Not familiar with Leira as a character/figure in any of the lore, so I can't speak to that directly, but if she's a full deity she's outside the indicated pool of patrons, and if she's not actually dead/undead or anything it's rather a stretch to try and make a character who is associated with her and gets undeath related powers from it.
I suppose one option if you absolutely must have both those points could be that your pact is with the ghost of a saint or something associated with the deity who has somehow come into play. Provides correlation to both the powers and the ultimate figure.
Well damn, I was thinking maybe the patron could be a undead wizard from before the calamity. An Aorean maybe or from another floating city. Buried under the ice up north hoping to be freed in exchange for power https://100001****/ https://1921681254.mx/ .
Player & DM should choose patron, but in the end the Warlock can make a pact who just about anything, even another entity than it think. Leira, being the Goddess of Deception & Illusion believed to be dead could play on this aspect. Undead essentially say you've made a pact with a deathless being, a creature that defies the cycle and life and death afterall. By the late 15th century DR, it became known that Leira was in fact alive and delighted in the confusion created by rumors of her demise and return....
I would allow an Aasimar Undead Warlock of Leira without problem if one my player wanted to play that.
If interested in additional lore, one of Leira alias is Mistshadow, and her manifestion typically include:
I would think Myrkul is a better choice for a Paladin that also makes a warlock contract with undead as liches have served Myrkul before, so Myrkul as a Cleric Patron and one of Myrkul's Cleric-Liches as a Warlock Patron would work. That said I am not familiar enough with Leira to know if Leira had Lich followers or not.
Imo, as a DM, my workaround would be coordinating with my player to create an NPC that serves the god.
Let’s say there was a lich or vampire that swore allegiance to the god before they were transformed into an undead. They strayed from their oath and violated themselves into becoming a monster. The god, pitying their vassal but also wanting to teach them a lesson, keeps them in their current form but calls on them to fulfill their oath and serve the god as a herald or representative.
Warlock makes pact with said creature, serving the god through said pact. Profit.
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