I'm playing a fire genasi artillerist and got thinking of produce flame and catapult. Produce flame says you can throw it 30 feet doing 2d8. Because it can be throw could it be catapult from an arcane firearm at level 2 dealing an additional 5d8. Or could you take a log that is lit on fire and launch. I know some people play by you can launch a vile of acid to deal extra damage. Just curious on what people think.
Why would it deal an additional 5d8? The effect of Arcane Firearm is that you can use it as a focus, and it adds 1d8 damage to an Artificer spell. Produce Flame isn't an Artificer spell. Throwing things isn't an Artificer spell either.
Yeah, but since it's not an Artificer spell you can't cast it using Arcane Firearm. The flame is a spell effect, not an object, so you can't use it in conjunction with the Catapult spell. And you also can't stack Arcane Firearm with itself, so even if you could cast a cantrip that caused damage and could somehow be used as a projectile via Catapult, it wouldn't get the bonus damage from Catapult twice.
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Yes, and it isn't an Artificer spell, so Arcane Firearm doesn't add damage to it at all, because Arcane Firearm only adds damage to Artificer Spells. Still not clear on why you think it would deal 5d8 additional damage in any case - if Produce Flame was an Artificer spell and Arcane Firearm did add damage to it, it would add 1d8.
The 5d8 is just the catapult spel casted at lvl 2 with arcane firearm 4d8 for catapult +1d8 for arcane firearm. But 6thlyran made it clear about not being able to launch the flame.
I'm playing a fire genasi artillerist and got thinking of produce flame and catapult. Produce flame says you can throw it 30 feet doing 2d8. Because it can be throw could it be catapult from an arcane firearm at level 2 dealing an additional 5d8. Or could you take a log that is lit on fire and launch. I know some people play by you can launch a vile of acid to deal extra damage. Just curious on what people think.
Why would it deal an additional 5d8? The effect of Arcane Firearm is that you can use it as a focus, and it adds 1d8 damage to an Artificer spell. Produce Flame isn't an Artificer spell. Throwing things isn't an Artificer spell either.
Produce flame is a cantrip that comes with being a fire genasi. It says the flame can be thrown up to 30 feet and deal at charter lvl 5 2d8
Yeah, but since it's not an Artificer spell you can't cast it using Arcane Firearm. The flame is a spell effect, not an object, so you can't use it in conjunction with the Catapult spell. And you also can't stack Arcane Firearm with itself, so even if you could cast a cantrip that caused damage and could somehow be used as a projectile via Catapult, it wouldn't get the bonus damage from Catapult twice.
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I understand it can't stack level 5 produce flame does 2d8. But that makes since since it is a spell effect.
Yes, and it isn't an Artificer spell, so Arcane Firearm doesn't add damage to it at all, because Arcane Firearm only adds damage to Artificer Spells. Still not clear on why you think it would deal 5d8 additional damage in any case - if Produce Flame was an Artificer spell and Arcane Firearm did add damage to it, it would add 1d8.
The 5d8 is just the catapult spel casted at lvl 2 with arcane firearm 4d8 for catapult +1d8 for arcane firearm. But 6thlyran made it clear about not being able to launch the flame.
Ah ok, that's my bad, I didn't realize you were talking about the actual Catapult spell.
All good 👍 thank you for the help on figuring it out