More of a lore question here... Wouldn't mind the help! The Grave domain specify that such clerics "seek to destroy undead"... Hence, it doesn't sound like one could be a member of the Covenant of the Grave faction... Which seems like a little bit of a shame. Or am I missing something?
More of a lore question here... Wouldn't mind the help! The Grave domain specify that such clerics "seek to destroy undead"... Hence, it doesn't sound like one could be a member of the Covenant of the Grave faction... Which seems like a little bit of a shame. Or am I missing something?
The Covenant of the Grave is not a monolith in their views and morals, but I would assume that a Grave Cleric who belongs to the Covenant of the Grave would likely take a similar stance on undead as the Raven Queen. Simply put, intelligent undead (such as vampires and liches) need to be destroyed as they're seeking ways to cheat death. While skeletons and zombies are little more than mindless constructs made of human remains.
I like to play by the rules... I'm as Lawful Neutral as one can get. But thank you, for your insight, nonetheless.
The flavor description of the class isn't the rules. If the idea doesn't vibe with you, that's fine, but if you like the subclass mechanics, you could work with your DM to tweak it a bit to make it work better with your character concept.
More of a lore question here... Wouldn't mind the help! The Grave domain specify that such clerics "seek to destroy undead"... Hence, it doesn't sound like one could be a member of the Covenant of the Grave faction... Which seems like a little bit of a shame. Or am I missing something?
The Covenant of the Grave is not a monolith in their views and morals, but I would assume that a Grave Cleric who belongs to the Covenant of the Grave would likely take a similar stance on undead as the Raven Queen. Simply put, intelligent undead (such as vampires and liches) need to be destroyed as they're seeking ways to cheat death. While skeletons and zombies are little more than mindless constructs made of human remains.
In my conceptual version of the pantheon of Death in the Forgotten Realms, there is Kelemvor as the Judge of the Dead, Jergal the Scribe of the Dead, Myrkul the Lord of Death (and sometimes when Kelemvor's attention is elsewhere, Undeath) and Bhaal the Lord of Premeditated Death. Myrkul and the arch demon Orcus are often in constant battle over who commands the undead. Kelemvor prefers that souls who die, travel swiftly to his Judgment Hall for determination of their final destination.
Officially, Kelemvor deplores any and all undead because these creatures mess up the orderly processing of the deceased. Jergal deplores any and all undead because, with one exception, they mess up his paper work. Jergal's one exception are his book mummies. Jergal scribes the names and actions of the deceased in a large book, which consists of a mummy that holds its arms wide to display the ledger sheet pages. When the pages of a book mummy are filled, that mummy shuffles to a book case and a new book mummy takes its place.
Yes, I know, I have created the Ultimate Abomination, a divine bureaucrat, Jergal. But what can I say? I am a retired bureaucrat.
More of a lore question here... Wouldn't mind the help! The Grave domain specify that such clerics "seek to destroy undead"... Hence, it doesn't sound like one could be a member of the Covenant of the Grave faction... Which seems like a little bit of a shame. Or am I missing something?
The Covenant of the Grave is not a monolith in their views and morals, but I would assume that a Grave Cleric who belongs to the Covenant of the Grave would likely take a similar stance on undead as the Raven Queen. Simply put, intelligent undead (such as vampires and liches) need to be destroyed as they're seeking ways to cheat death. While skeletons and zombies are little more than mindless constructs made of human remains.
Thank you!
Also, you're not required to stick with the description in the grave domain.
I like to play by the rules... I'm as Lawful Neutral as one can get. But thank you, for your insight, nonetheless.
The flavor description of the class isn't the rules. If the idea doesn't vibe with you, that's fine, but if you like the subclass mechanics, you could work with your DM to tweak it a bit to make it work better with your character concept.
In my conceptual version of the pantheon of Death in the Forgotten Realms, there is Kelemvor as the Judge of the Dead, Jergal the Scribe of the Dead, Myrkul the Lord of Death (and sometimes when Kelemvor's attention is elsewhere, Undeath) and Bhaal the Lord of Premeditated Death. Myrkul and the arch demon Orcus are often in constant battle over who commands the undead. Kelemvor prefers that souls who die, travel swiftly to his Judgment Hall for determination of their final destination.
Officially, Kelemvor deplores any and all undead because these creatures mess up the orderly processing of the deceased. Jergal deplores any and all undead because, with one exception, they mess up his paper work. Jergal's one exception are his book mummies. Jergal scribes the names and actions of the deceased in a large book, which consists of a mummy that holds its arms wide to display the ledger sheet pages. When the pages of a book mummy are filled, that mummy shuffles to a book case and a new book mummy takes its place.
Yes, I know, I have created the Ultimate Abomination, a divine bureaucrat, Jergal. But what can I say? I am a retired bureaucrat.