The Master Scrivener class feature of the Order of Scribes subclass specifies that the special scrolls it creates are unintelligible to anyone else, but the Eyes of the Rune Keeper invocation says that it lets it's user read all writing.
Would this allow the character with the invocation to read and use the scroll RAW, or would it be a case of "just because you can read it doesn't mean you understand it"?
As a DM I would rule that the reason it’s impossible to read is because it isn’t a language more the language of magic but encoded. Same reason eyes of the rune keeper can’t simply read every spell scroll they find and cast cleric spells.
The scroll is unintelligible to anyone else, and the spell vanishes from the scroll when you cast it or when you finish your next long rest.
unintelligible: unable to be understood or comprehended
You can read all writing.
Now, read has some definitions that include understanding, or comprehending...but, since we cannot understand nor comprehend... does Read" have any definitions that don't have comprehend or understand in them? It does! So we use those:
read: to utter aloud the printed or written words of
Thus, the only compatible expression of something that is both Unintelligible and which you can read: Something that you know how to pronounce and say aloud, but which you cannot understand the meaning of.
Example: Ka kwa clep brog durun.
You can probably say this out loud, and have no idea what it means, if anything.
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It is apparently so hard to program Aberrant Mind and Clockwork Soul spell-swapping into dndbeyond they had to remake the game without it rather than implement it.
Would this allow the character with the invocation to read and use the scroll RAW, or would it be a case of "just because you can read it doesn't mean you understand it"?
Yeah, the latter. "Unintelligible" means you can't comprehend what you're reading, not that you can't read it. Sort of like if I told you the sky pig slump devotes open octahedrical
Carric Aquissar, elven wannabe artist in his deconstructionist period (Archfey warlock) Lan Kidogo, mapach archaeologist and treasure hunter (Knowledge cleric) Mardan Ferres, elven private investigator obsessed with that one unsolved murder (Assassin rogue) Xhekhetiel, halfling survivor of a Betrayer Gods cult (Runechild sorcerer/fighter)
Sort of like if I told you the sky pig slump devotes open octahedrical
Really? I knew this day would come!
Men, arm the date coconut ordnance photographs. It's time for marination catastrophe esophagus bland!
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Look at what you've done. You spoiled it. You have nobody to blame but yourself. Go sit and think about your actions.
Don't be mean. Rudeness is a vicious cycle, and it has to stop somewhere. Exceptions for things that are funny. Go to the current Competition of the Finest 'Brews! It's a cool place where cool people make cool things.
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Would this allow the character with the invocation to read and use the scroll RAW, or would it be a case of "just because you can read it doesn't mean you understand it"?
Yeah, the latter. "Unintelligible" means you can't comprehend what you're reading, not that you can't read it. Sort of like if I told you the sky pig slump devotes open octahedrical
AI has you covered! Sorta...
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I'm probably laughing.
It is apparently so hard to program Aberrant Mind and Clockwork Soul spell-swapping into dndbeyond they had to remake the game without it rather than implement it.
Would this allow the character with the invocation to read and use the scroll RAW, or would it be a case of "just because you can read it doesn't mean you understand it"?
Yeah, the latter. "Unintelligible" means you can't comprehend what you're reading, not that you can't read it. Sort of like if I told you the sky pig slump devotes open octahedrical
The Master Scrivener class feature of the Order of Scribes subclass specifies that the special scrolls it creates are unintelligible to anyone else, but the Eyes of the Rune Keeper invocation says that it lets it's user read all writing.
Would this allow the character with the invocation to read and use the scroll RAW, or would it be a case of "just because you can read it doesn't mean you understand it"?
No it wouldn't since it's Unintelligible to the character.
Would this allow the character with the invocation to read and use the scroll RAW, or would it be a case of "just because you can read it doesn't mean you understand it"?
Yeah, the latter. "Unintelligible" means you can't comprehend what you're reading, not that you can't read it. Sort of like if I told you the sky pig slump devotes open octahedrical
This is how I've seen people tackle the question of being able to read Theive's Cant as well, knowing the wording but not the intention.
It makes for pretty good roleplay potential when I think about it though, using otherworldly powers to Look With Your Special Eyes only to find gibberish.
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The Master Scrivener class feature of the Order of Scribes subclass specifies that the special scrolls it creates are unintelligible to anyone else, but the Eyes of the Rune Keeper invocation says that it lets it's user read all writing.
Would this allow the character with the invocation to read and use the scroll RAW, or would it be a case of "just because you can read it doesn't mean you understand it"?
As a DM I would rule that the reason it’s impossible to read is because it isn’t a language more the language of magic but encoded. Same reason eyes of the rune keeper can’t simply read every spell scroll they find and cast cleric spells.
unintelligible: unable to be understood or comprehended
Now, read has some definitions that include understanding, or comprehending...but, since we cannot understand nor comprehend... does Read" have any definitions that don't have comprehend or understand in them? It does! So we use those:
read: to utter aloud the printed or written words of
Thus, the only compatible expression of something that is both Unintelligible and which you can read: Something that you know how to pronounce and say aloud, but which you cannot understand the meaning of.
Example: Ka kwa clep brog durun.
You can probably say this out loud, and have no idea what it means, if anything.
I'm probably laughing.
It is apparently so hard to program Aberrant Mind and Clockwork Soul spell-swapping into dndbeyond they had to remake the game without it rather than implement it.
Yeah, the latter. "Unintelligible" means you can't comprehend what you're reading, not that you can't read it. Sort of like if I told you the sky pig slump devotes open octahedrical
Active characters:
Carric Aquissar, elven wannabe artist in his deconstructionist period (Archfey warlock)
Lan Kidogo, mapach archaeologist and treasure hunter (Knowledge cleric)
Mardan Ferres, elven private investigator obsessed with that one unsolved murder (Assassin rogue)
Xhekhetiel, halfling survivor of a Betrayer Gods cult (Runechild sorcerer/fighter)
Really? I knew this day would come!
Men, arm the date coconut ordnance photographs. It's time for marination catastrophe esophagus bland!
Look at what you've done. You spoiled it. You have nobody to blame but yourself. Go sit and think about your actions.
Don't be mean. Rudeness is a vicious cycle, and it has to stop somewhere. Exceptions for things that are funny.
Go to the current Competition of the Finest 'Brews! It's a cool place where cool people make cool things.
How I'm posting based on text formatting: Mod Hat Off - Mod Hat Also Off (I'm not a mod)
AI has you covered! Sorta...
I'm probably laughing.
It is apparently so hard to program Aberrant Mind and Clockwork Soul spell-swapping into dndbeyond they had to remake the game without it rather than implement it.
Oh that’s actually really cool lol
No it wouldn't since it's Unintelligible to the character.
This is how I've seen people tackle the question of being able to read Theive's Cant as well, knowing the wording but not the intention.
It makes for pretty good roleplay potential when I think about it though, using otherworldly powers to Look With Your Special Eyes only to find gibberish.