then i use a bonus action to perform a Feinting attack and then hit the attack i have advantage on. can i then choose to use another manouver like trip attack? and if yes what exacly would happen? how many dices do i add to damage etc.
Yes, you can use a maneuver on a strike augmented by Feinting Attack. You would add the extra damage from each feature separately.
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Keep in mind that there is this restriction: "You can use only one maneuver per attack." I can think of at least a couple of different ways to interpret that.
Keep in mind that there is this restriction: "You can use only one maneuver per attack." I can think of at least a couple of different ways to interpret that.
But Feinting Maneuver isn't an attack, in this case, so when you make your next attack with advantage you can use a different maneuver on it and get both the Feint and other maneuvers damage dice. At least that's how I read it. But I could be wrong.
You aren't using it when you make the attack, though. You're using it when you take the Bonus Action to... y'know... use it.
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Yeah, but the text doesn't say that an attack can only be enhanced by one maneuver. The text says that you can only use one maneuver per attack. You use Feinting Attack as a bonus action. You don't use it when you make the attack, you use it before you make the attack.
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Yes, those are a couple of the different ways it can be interpreted. I was thinking that there might even be a third interpretation. However many attacks you have you can use that many maneuvers. (based on the phrasing "per attack") So, if you take an Attack action and that gives you one attack, then you can use one maneuver. If you have Extra Attack and that provides two attacks, then you can use two maneuvers. But now I don't think that that's correct since some maneuvers (Evasive Footwork, for example) are intended to be used even when you have not declared an attack and you might not necessarily attack at all on your turn.
So, those two sentences are probably meant to exist together -- like, if a maneuver enhances an attack in some way then you can only use one such maneuver per attack. (Even though it doesn't say that exactly, it's probably the best interpretation)
That brings us back to the above debate and the original question -- After using Feinting Attack and then hitting on an attack can I then use another maneuver which enhances that attack? Probably not.
If the interpretation is a little different -- that the one per attack restriction only applies to maneuvers that are happening "during" that attack (only a few of the maneuvers fall into that category) then this would be allowed since the Feinting Attack occurred before the attack, not during the attack.
Note that of the 23 listed maneuvers, only 10 of them fall into this category (Disarming attack, Distracting Strike, Goading Attack, Lunging Attack, Maneuvering Attack, Menacing Attack, Precision Attack, Pushing Attack, Sweeping Attack and Trip Attack). So, under that interpretation the restriction only applies to these 10 maneuvers. That would mean that you cannot use the same maneuver twice during an attack and you cannot use more than one of any combination of these 10 maneuvers during the attack. Note that this interpretation separates the two sentences -- there is an acknowledgement that many maneuvers enhance an attack, and then separately from that there is the restriction. It also assumes that the phrase "per attack" means "during the attack".
All three of these interpretation have their flaws -- I'm still not really sure which one is best.
To me an attack cannot benefit from both Feinting Attack and Trip Attack maneuvers as you can use only one maneuver per attack.
So the question is, Is the attack using a maneuver? If yes then you can't use another one on it. Judging by the advantage and Superiority Die added to the attack's damage, it's hard to say it isn't using the Feinting maneuver on the attack..
then i use a bonus action to perform a Feinting attack and then hit the attack i have advantage on. can i then choose to use another manouver like trip attack? and if yes what exacly would happen? how many dices do i add to damage etc.
Yes, you can use a maneuver on a strike augmented by Feinting Attack. You would add the extra damage from each feature separately.
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Keep in mind that there is this restriction: "You can use only one maneuver per attack." I can think of at least a couple of different ways to interpret that.
But Feinting Maneuver isn't an attack, in this case, so when you make your next attack with advantage you can use a different maneuver on it and get both the Feint and other maneuvers damage dice. At least that's how I read it. But I could be wrong.
Hm... the maneuver rules text says
"Many maneuvers enhance an attack in some way. You can use only one maneuver per attack."
Feint does enhance the next attack by spending a bonus action beforehand. So, I would read that as the one maneuver you can use for an attack.
You aren't using it when you make the attack, though. You're using it when you take the Bonus Action to... y'know... use it.
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You still use it to enhance an attack. The only difference to other maneuvers is, that it also costs you an additional bonus action.
Yeah, but the text doesn't say that an attack can only be enhanced by one maneuver. The text says that you can only use one maneuver per attack. You use Feinting Attack as a bonus action. You don't use it when you make the attack, you use it before you make the attack.
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Yes, those are a couple of the different ways it can be interpreted. I was thinking that there might even be a third interpretation. However many attacks you have you can use that many maneuvers. (based on the phrasing "per attack") So, if you take an Attack action and that gives you one attack, then you can use one maneuver. If you have Extra Attack and that provides two attacks, then you can use two maneuvers. But now I don't think that that's correct since some maneuvers (Evasive Footwork, for example) are intended to be used even when you have not declared an attack and you might not necessarily attack at all on your turn.
So, those two sentences are probably meant to exist together -- like, if a maneuver enhances an attack in some way then you can only use one such maneuver per attack. (Even though it doesn't say that exactly, it's probably the best interpretation)
That brings us back to the above debate and the original question -- After using Feinting Attack and then hitting on an attack can I then use another maneuver which enhances that attack? Probably not.
If the interpretation is a little different -- that the one per attack restriction only applies to maneuvers that are happening "during" that attack (only a few of the maneuvers fall into that category) then this would be allowed since the Feinting Attack occurred before the attack, not during the attack.
Note that of the 23 listed maneuvers, only 10 of them fall into this category (Disarming attack, Distracting Strike, Goading Attack, Lunging Attack, Maneuvering Attack, Menacing Attack, Precision Attack, Pushing Attack, Sweeping Attack and Trip Attack). So, under that interpretation the restriction only applies to these 10 maneuvers. That would mean that you cannot use the same maneuver twice during an attack and you cannot use more than one of any combination of these 10 maneuvers during the attack. Note that this interpretation separates the two sentences -- there is an acknowledgement that many maneuvers enhance an attack, and then separately from that there is the restriction. It also assumes that the phrase "per attack" means "during the attack".
All three of these interpretation have their flaws -- I'm still not really sure which one is best.
To me an attack cannot benefit from both Feinting Attack and Trip Attack maneuvers as you can use only one maneuver per attack.
So the question is, Is the attack using a maneuver? If yes then you can't use another one on it. Judging by the advantage and Superiority Die added to the attack's damage, it's hard to say it isn't using the Feinting maneuver on the attack..