So I read a little about Agatha and I can't find her stats anywhere. But it feels like there would be. She is a 13th level wizard but is she then just a normal banshee. Because you can be a 18th level wizard and only have 60 hit points you just wanna get the **** away. So I was hoping that someone knew where her stats was if she has some. Or if someone would be a dear and give me a template. Because I feel you could make something very interesting with her. Having her appear and disappear. Sometimes casting a spell other times just outright rendering the PC's flesh. I'm thinking of having my party later on delve into a dungeon with her in it. And I want them to look at the map as a weapon against her. So while they can just outright attack her, it would be hard and perhaps even deadly... it would be better to use the map. It's still a work in progress but I was hoping that I wouldn't have to create Agatha from the bottom of a Banshee and up. Thanks in advance! ^^
If you search Agatha forgotten realms and find the forgotten realms wiki it should state it there yes. You know what? I'm just gonna find the link for ya! ^^
Once she became a banshee (undead) most of her stats would have changed as a result, so she would no longer be a 13th level wizard + a banshee.
I would suggest using the banshee stats as your base, but give her the INT and spells of a evoker. The evoker get's you closest to what a 2nd edition 13th level wizard would have using existing 5e NPC monster stats. Just remember that this will increase her CR fairly dramatically.
"Orcs are savage raiders and pillagers with stooped postures, low foreheads, and piggish faces with prominent lower canines that resemble tusks." MM p245 (original printing) You don't OWN your books on DDB: WotC can change them any time. What do you think will happen when OneD&D comes out?
** Seems like you don't need stats for her. If you want them, go ahead, a normal Banshee is more than a match for a party of lvl 1characters.
If the characters are rude, disrespectful, or threatening, Agatha scowls and disappears. She does not attack them, nor does she return if the characters call out to her.
Dealing with Agatha
If the characters are respectful and polite, Agatha can be persuaded to help them with a successful DC 15 Charisma (Persuasion) check. The player whose character takes the lead in speaking with the banshee makes the check. If that player roleplays the encounter well, allow him or her to make the check with advantage. If any character has Sister Garaele’s silver comb and presents it to Agatha as a gift, the check is automatically successful.
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Well I'm not really going for her 2nd edition stats. I was merely hoping someone would have her stats hidden in a deep dark far realm in their google drive. But alas it seems I may have to homebrew her. I want her to be more than just a 13th level wizard with the base stats of a banshee. I want her to be special. Yes, my party of 3rd level are not going up against her! xD Mostly because they are VERY new to d&d.
I don't have a place/time or really ANYTHING planned with her, I just liked the thought of using a banshee and she seemed like a reason to use one. I don't know if I'm even ever going to use her but I liked the idea at the time. But I may have an idea how to get my players directed her way.
Yes it will be a role play based encounter. I want an npc to make it straight that was and still is a very powerful wizard and that if they want to do the foolish thing of fighting her it's on them. But I don't wanna reveal her level though (of course) always a good surprise when a seemingly normal or buff banshee whips out a 5th level spell. ^^
Daergiel, if you don't plan for the PCs to fight her, and only have it as a roleplay encounter, then you don't need stats.
Just make her however you want her to be. And if you want her to demonstrate her power by using magic, just give her whatever spells you want her to cast. Since they won't be fighting her, it won't matter.
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"Orcs are savage raiders and pillagers with stooped postures, low foreheads, and piggish faces with prominent lower canines that resemble tusks." MM p245 (original printing) You don't OWN your books on DDB: WotC can change them any time. What do you think will happen when OneD&D comes out?
Oh I want her stats if they are gonna fight her. It's not because they can't or shouldn't fight her. But I have a more or less "newer" player in the group that probably is going to meet her. And a veteran player. So I'm very much hoping to show the newer one that not all fights are fought with his barrage of short sword attacks. But I don't want them to be stuck with having to talk to her. But not everything there are going after is going to be somewhat defeatable. Not because she is going to murderer them after the first insult. She wants something too, but pressing a Banshee can go horribly wrong xD. But I've ended in the situation of not thinking I need a sheet and ending up needing one. That sucks. I have two groups so if my first group doesn't fight her I think my second group will. I have a blood thirsty tabaxi rogue. I like how much he role plays his character and how much his character hates and really don't like anyone. But someday he is going to attempt at killing something WAY beyond what he is capable of handling. I've of course talked with him a told him that he can't just go around murdering everybody. Mostly because there is a paladin in the party. But someday someone is going to give back more than he can handle and I hope that, that is when he learns to study his opponents first, before running headlong in as a rogue without a con modifier nor the ability to sneak attack enemies. As a thief. So I have a little homework to do it seems. Thank you guys for helping! ^^ I'm really starting to like dnd beyond more and more. Really the only place for feedback I have at the moment! xD Thanks again! ^^
-Daergiel
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So I read a little about Agatha and I can't find her stats anywhere. But it feels like there would be. She is a 13th level wizard but is she then just a normal banshee. Because you can be a 18th level wizard and only have 60 hit points you just wanna get the **** away. So I was hoping that someone knew where her stats was if she has some. Or if someone would be a dear and give me a template. Because I feel you could make something very interesting with her. Having her appear and disappear. Sometimes casting a spell other times just outright rendering the PC's flesh. I'm thinking of having my party later on delve into a dungeon with her in it. And I want them to look at the map as a weapon against her. So while they can just outright attack her, it would be hard and perhaps even deadly... it would be better to use the map. It's still a work in progress but I was hoping that I wouldn't have to create Agatha from the bottom of a Banshee and up. Thanks in advance! ^^
-Daergiel
If there is no Agatha in yhe monster listings, then she is not statted in any official 5e books. You might try DM guild, or have to homebrew her.
Does it really say she's a lvl 13 Wizard?
"Sooner or later, your Players are going to smash your railroad into a sandbox."
-Vedexent
"real life is a super high CR."
-OboeLauren
"............anybody got any potatoes? We could drop a potato in each hole an' see which ones get viciously mauled by horrible monsters?"
-Ilyara Thundertale
If you search Agatha forgotten realms and find the forgotten realms wiki it should state it there yes. You know what? I'm just gonna find the link for ya! ^^
https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Agatha
Once she became a banshee (undead) most of her stats would have changed as a result, so she would no longer be a 13th level wizard + a banshee.
I would suggest using the banshee stats as your base, but give her the INT and spells of a evoker. The evoker get's you closest to what a 2nd edition 13th level wizard would have using existing 5e NPC monster stats. Just remember that this will increase her CR fairly dramatically.
"Orcs are savage raiders and pillagers with stooped postures, low foreheads, and piggish faces with prominent lower canines that resemble tusks." MM p245 (original printing)
You don't OWN your books on DDB: WotC can change them any time. What do you think will happen when OneD&D comes out?
** Seems like you don't need stats for her. If you want them, go ahead, a normal Banshee is more than a match for a party of lvl 1characters.
If the characters are rude, disrespectful, or threatening, Agatha scowls and disappears. She does not attack them, nor does she return if the characters call out to her.
Dealing with Agatha
If the characters are respectful and polite, Agatha can be persuaded to help them with a successful DC 15 Charisma (Persuasion) check. The player whose character takes the lead in speaking with the banshee makes the check. If that player roleplays the encounter well, allow him or her to make the check with advantage. If any character has Sister Garaele’s silver comb and presents it to Agatha as a gift, the check is automatically successful.
"Sooner or later, your Players are going to smash your railroad into a sandbox."
-Vedexent
"real life is a super high CR."
-OboeLauren
"............anybody got any potatoes? We could drop a potato in each hole an' see which ones get viciously mauled by horrible monsters?"
-Ilyara Thundertale
Well I'm not really going for her 2nd edition stats. I was merely hoping someone would have her stats hidden in a deep dark far realm in their google drive.
But alas it seems I may have to homebrew her. I want her to be more than just a 13th level wizard with the base stats of a banshee. I want her to be special.
Yes, my party of 3rd level are not going up against her! xD Mostly because they are VERY new to d&d.
I don't have a place/time or really ANYTHING planned with her, I just liked the thought of using a banshee and she seemed like a reason to use one.
I don't know if I'm even ever going to use her but I liked the idea at the time. But I may have an idea how to get my players directed her way.
Yes it will be a role play based encounter. I want an npc to make it straight that was and still is a very powerful wizard and that if they want to do the foolish thing of fighting her it's on them. But I don't wanna reveal her level though (of course) always a good surprise when a seemingly normal or buff banshee whips out a 5th level spell. ^^
Daergiel, if you don't plan for the PCs to fight her, and only have it as a roleplay encounter, then you don't need stats.
Just make her however you want her to be. And if you want her to demonstrate her power by using magic, just give her whatever spells you want her to cast. Since they won't be fighting her, it won't matter.
"Orcs are savage raiders and pillagers with stooped postures, low foreheads, and piggish faces with prominent lower canines that resemble tusks." MM p245 (original printing)
You don't OWN your books on DDB: WotC can change them any time. What do you think will happen when OneD&D comes out?
Oh I want her stats if they are gonna fight her. It's not because they can't or shouldn't fight her. But I have a more or less "newer" player in the group that probably is going to meet her. And a veteran player. So I'm very much hoping to show the newer one that not all fights are fought with his barrage of short sword attacks. But I don't want them to be stuck with having to talk to her. But not everything there are going after is going to be somewhat defeatable. Not because she is going to murderer them after the first insult. She wants something too, but pressing a Banshee can go horribly wrong xD. But I've ended in the situation of not thinking I need a sheet and ending up needing one. That sucks. I have two groups so if my first group doesn't fight her I think my second group will. I have a blood thirsty tabaxi rogue. I like how much he role plays his character and how much his character hates and really don't like anyone. But someday he is going to attempt at killing something WAY beyond what he is capable of handling. I've of course talked with him a told him that he can't just go around murdering everybody. Mostly because there is a paladin in the party. But someday someone is going to give back more than he can handle and I hope that, that is when he learns to study his opponents first, before running headlong in as a rogue without a con modifier nor the ability to sneak attack enemies. As a thief. So I have a little homework to do it seems. Thank you guys for helping! ^^ I'm really starting to like dnd beyond more and more. Really the only place for feedback I have at the moment! xD
Thanks again! ^^
-Daergiel