I am working on mirrored Schools of magic. Shar built the Shadow Weave as a parallel to the magical weave and I was thinking that there should be parallel schools of magic for those that use it. Some are not that hard to do like Evocation = a chaos based source. The spells are going to be somewhat the same, with one weave of the other having an advantage on the spells. Evocations fireball would do a little more damage, but the Chaos-ball (names are definitely under construction) bypassing fire resistance. Conjurations cloudkill would become a depths of space for the new school and the damage would be close to the same except the new one would be an Int or Wis save for cold damage and a chance of you becoming afraid of falling, so unwilling to move in any direction. Some of the spells are pretty easy to come up with, but I was looking for others that don't really lend themselves well to the idea. Divination has a bunch like augury, speak with animals, divination. guidance, and identify...not sure how to move those around among others in different schools. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated
Why do schools of magic have to be inverted? They're just labels Wizards invented to better understand spells, the spell's magic isn't going to care all that much - there's a lot of spells that could actually fit in multple schools, but the one it's classifed is just due to the stronger effect (Prismatic Wall being a prime example since it features evocation and conjuration but is listed as abjuration due the intention of the spell being for protection). Your interpretation of the schools is a bit incorrect so making "nega-schools" seems confusing and pointless. "Fireball" doesn't create fire and do damage "because it's an evocation spell" - rather it is called an evocation spell because it creates and manipulate energy (in this case heat).
I don't even vaguely begin to understand why you think the inverse of evocation or fireballs would be Chaos. None of the spells are specifically aligned to Order or Chaos, nor are the Schools of Magic.
The inverse of Evocation would be negating energy or making current energy unable to be affected by magic. The Inverse of Conjuration would be to erase objects from existence. The Inverse of Abjuration is to harm yourself or make you easier to harm with no benefit in return. (Which, I think we can agree, would be ridiculous) The Inverse of Transmutation is make something unable to be changed. The Inverse of Necromancy is to create new life. The Inverse of Illusion is ensuring you sense what is real (so if you're in an area already real, this school wouldn't offer a single spell of use to you). The Inverse of Enchantment is preventing a mind from being influenced. The Inverse of Divination is only knowing what you can see and hear and preventing others from knowing things magically.
As you can tell just thinking of "opposites" will result in things utterly useless or protecting yourself from those spells which is usually just something normal abjuration spells can do.
Even just going "anti-magic" is pointless because Abjuration already covers that.
Having a "competitor" to the weave isn't going to do much. The weave's magic, themes and effects range from 'the abolute darkest void of nothingness' to 'everything in existence'.
Having an "alternative" to the weave would be something more doable and interesting. It can do everything the weave can but they would be immune to each other's form of antimagic - shadow-weaved magic works in normal-weave antimagic field while normal-weaved magic works in shadow-weaved antimagic field. In realms and places devoid of the normal weave normal casters cannot do magic but casters using the shadow-weave can - and vice versa. It would be an interesting concept.
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I am working on mirrored Schools of magic. Shar built the Shadow Weave as a parallel to the magical weave and I was thinking that there should be parallel schools of magic for those that use it. Some are not that hard to do like Evocation = a chaos based source. The spells are going to be somewhat the same, with one weave of the other having an advantage on the spells. Evocations fireball would do a little more damage, but the Chaos-ball (names are definitely under construction) bypassing fire resistance. Conjurations cloudkill would become a depths of space for the new school and the damage would be close to the same except the new one would be an Int or Wis save for cold damage and a chance of you becoming afraid of falling, so unwilling to move in any direction. Some of the spells are pretty easy to come up with, but I was looking for others that don't really lend themselves well to the idea. Divination has a bunch like augury, speak with animals, divination. guidance, and identify...not sure how to move those around among others in different schools. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated
Who is Shar?
What is the Shadow Weave?
Why do schools of magic have to be inverted? They're just labels Wizards invented to better understand spells, the spell's magic isn't going to care all that much - there's a lot of spells that could actually fit in multple schools, but the one it's classifed is just due to the stronger effect (Prismatic Wall being a prime example since it features evocation and conjuration but is listed as abjuration due the intention of the spell being for protection). Your interpretation of the schools is a bit incorrect so making "nega-schools" seems confusing and pointless. "Fireball" doesn't create fire and do damage "because it's an evocation spell" - rather it is called an evocation spell because it creates and manipulate energy (in this case heat).
I don't even vaguely begin to understand why you think the inverse of evocation or fireballs would be Chaos. None of the spells are specifically aligned to Order or Chaos, nor are the Schools of Magic.
The inverse of Evocation would be negating energy or making current energy unable to be affected by magic.
The Inverse of Conjuration would be to erase objects from existence.
The Inverse of Abjuration is to harm yourself or make you easier to harm with no benefit in return. (Which, I think we can agree, would be ridiculous)
The Inverse of Transmutation is make something unable to be changed.
The Inverse of Necromancy is to create new life.
The Inverse of Illusion is ensuring you sense what is real (so if you're in an area already real, this school wouldn't offer a single spell of use to you).
The Inverse of Enchantment is preventing a mind from being influenced.
The Inverse of Divination is only knowing what you can see and hear and preventing others from knowing things magically.
As you can tell just thinking of "opposites" will result in things utterly useless or protecting yourself from those spells which is usually just something normal abjuration spells can do.
Even just going "anti-magic" is pointless because Abjuration already covers that.
Having a "competitor" to the weave isn't going to do much. The weave's magic, themes and effects range from 'the abolute darkest void of nothingness' to 'everything in existence'.
Having an "alternative" to the weave would be something more doable and interesting. It can do everything the weave can but they would be immune to each other's form of antimagic - shadow-weaved magic works in normal-weave antimagic field while normal-weaved magic works in shadow-weaved antimagic field. In realms and places devoid of the normal weave normal casters cannot do magic but casters using the shadow-weave can - and vice versa. It would be an interesting concept.
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Need help with Homebrew? Check out ✨ this FAQ/Guide thread ✨ by IamSposta.
In 5e the Shadow Weave is gone, it was destroyed when Mystra's weave was shattered at the beginning of 4e, and was never re-created.
Any time an unfathomably powerful entity sweeps in and offers godlike rewards in return for just a few teensy favors, it’s a scam. Unless it’s me. I’d never lie to you, reader dearest.
Tasha