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Seeing WotC track record of digital tools I cannot buy the books again. I paid print, paid Fantasy Grounds and Roll20 (over $350us). I am not going to pay again for another tool. Why do I need to pay again to look at the options for a pally on the computer. Just let me buy a PDF and use it in any tool I want. 

I know if you buy a VHS tape of a movie you dont get the DVD for free but i bught the DVD and i get recharged everytime i put it in as different DVD player.

Want me to buy the books for D&D beyond, then buy back my books on Fantasy Grounds. 

The idea from previous post is a good one... if you have a regular gaming group then split the cost to unlock all the books and subscribe to the Master tier.

Since you can split each campaign to its own section... you could technically make a general account for your group and have each campaign information there for each DM in your group.  Wouldnt that work?

Question if Aug 15th i buy all the books and Sept 1st they think its not going to float and close D&DB will i get my money back or pdfs of the containt paid for? 

Quote from Gwalxavad >>

..so long as the pricing isn't being mandated by Wizards... 

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Quote from HamsterHead >>

Seeing WotC track record of digital tools I cannot buy the books again. I paid print, paid Fantasy Grounds and Roll20 (over $350us). I am not going to pay again for another tool. Why do I need to pay again to look at the options for a pally on the computer. Just let me buy a PDF and use it in any tool I want. 

I know if you buy a VHS tape of a movie you dont get the DVD for free but i bught the DVD and i get recharged everytime i put it in as different DVD player.

Want me to buy the books for D&D beyond, then buy back my books on Fantasy Grounds. 

 You bought the DVD, this is the BluRay sorry homie.

I bought Overwatch on PC and would love to play with my PS4 friends, but Blizzard isn't reimbursing my copy, nor providing access to the same game on the console.

I'm not seeing why this is expected to be different with D&D Beyond, as it's a proven business practice across multiple products/genres.

So when you say you must purchase the books content for it so you mean it will have what you already release publicly for free? Also if I own the books already is there way to get that content into the program without purchasing it again?

Quote from HamsterHead >>

Question if Aug 15th i buy all the books and Sept 1st they think its not going to float and close D&DB will i get my money back or pdfs of the containt paid for? 

Quote from Sedge >>

I bought Overwatch on PC and would love to play with my PS4 friends, but Blizzard isn't reimbursing my copy, nor providing access to the same game on the console.

I'm not seeing why this is expected to be different with D&D Beyond, as it's a proven business practice across multiple products/genres.

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So when you say you must purchase the books content for it so you mean it will have what you already release publicly for free? Also if I own the books already is there way to get that content into the program without purchasing it again?

I understand that there are a lot of questions to be answered, but was wondering if I bought the core books as a player, is there any possibility of sharing them with the other members of my playgroup or would our playgroup need to share the account that has the Master tier subscription if we switch DM's? (Or are there no differences in the app between DM's and Players? I've not had a lot of time to check out things that aren't the character creator)

Please understand those of you defending Curse/D&DB. Not all of us have access to unlimited funds or the ability to prioritize their hobby over their bills and life. So this is a bit of a sticker shock to some of us. I personally have been playing D&D since AD&D 2nd Edition. I've bought the books, I've rolled the dice, I've even gotten a few of the tool sets when they came out for 3rd edition. I like D&DB, I have been checking out its progress and telling my friends and family about it. I will use it to toss character ideas together, but as someone who is a full-time student, who is paying a mortgage, that buy in is going to hit me hard. I don't have a regular group, and I don't have a large one, and I can not go to them and say "hey buy me this" or "help me buy this" when we on average get to game maybe once or twice a month. I see a lot of people on here ragging on those of us who are concerned about the price. I appreciate that you feel the need to defend this, I really do. But just as you are free to defend we are free to express our concerns. 

Prices are a bit high for me, having already the hardcover books ... and IMO are high even in comparison with other digital products of other RPG.

I'll see step by step if it'll be worth this big extra payment :(

(don't get me wrong ... I'd pay the platform / app the right price, since it's great to me ... those other extra costs bugs me anyway).

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Quote from Sedge >>

One is not 'gaining electronic access' to their previously-owned physical copies.  One is purchasing a new license for intellectual property offered in a different medium.

One does not receive a free DVD because they purchased the VHS years prior.  We all choose which medium to purchase our entertainment, knowing it can be outdated as technology advances.  :D

 That argument doesn't really fly - this site certainly doesn't make the physical books "outdated" (that would be more like an Amazon Kindle or RPGDriveThru pdf release) so much as supplement them - and many other companies wisely offer access to digital content with the purchase of a physical copy, such as when I buy a blu-ray disk with a code to the digital file or a comic book with a code to comixology. This is bad business strategy on Wizards' part.

That said, I can certainly understand WotC being reluctant to offering free access to those of us who have already purchased the books, as there really isn't a way to verify those purchases. Going forward they should  incorporate a one-time code into future releases of the books so that buyers can have access to content here.

Also, the pricing on the books is blindingly stupid in light of the competition. With almost every other RPG company a digital copy of the book is available with the purchase of a physical copy and if I choose to forgo the physical copy a digital copy can be had for about $10. That is a copy I can take anywhere with me on as many devices as I want in a universally recognized digital format with no need for an internet connection. I *really* hope when this ends up shooting Wizards in the foot, they adjust their pricing accordingly instead of viewing DnDBeyond as a failure and scrapping it. Say $10-15 for the books, with the content being included for free in the subscription. There's a lot of good stuff here - I like the subscription pricing, and will probably take advantage of the reduced price for the books during the first week launch - but I can certainly understand people having a problem with the book pricing, as it shows complete ignorance of the current market.

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I understand that there are a lot of questions to be answered, but was wondering if I bought the core books as a player, is there any possibility of sharing them with the other members of my playgroup or would our playgroup need to share the account that has the Master tier subscription if we switch DM's? (Or are there no differences in the app between DM's and Players? I've not had a lot of time to check out things that aren't the character creator)

First, there is no need to be offensive. Secondly, anything that has a copyright, with 1 product you buy 1 license. If you want more products you have to pay as many licenses. That is how things go.

Quote from Tyriuth >>

I understand that there are a lot of questions to be answered, but was wondering if I bought the core books as a player, is there any possibility of sharing them with the other members of my playgroup or would our playgroup need to share the account that has the Master tier subscription if we switch DM's? (Or are there no differences in the app between DM's and Players? I've not had a lot of time to check out things that aren't the character creator)

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Please understand those of you defending Curse/D&DB. Not all of us have access to unlimited funds or the ability to prioritize their hobby over their bills and life. So this is a bit of a sticker shock to some of us. I personally have been playing D&D since AD&D 2nd Edition. I've bought the books, I've rolled the dice, I've even gotten a few of the tool sets when they came out for 3rd edition. I like D&DB, I have been checking out its progress and telling my friends and family about it. I will use it to toss character ideas together, but as someone who is a full-time student, who is paying a mortgage, that buy in is going to hit me hard. I don't have a regular group, and I don't have a large one, and I can not go to them and say "hey buy me this" or "help me buy this" when we on average get to game maybe once or twice a month. I see a lot of people on here ragging on those of us who are concerned about the price. I appreciate that you feel the need to defend this, I really do. But just as you are free to defend we are free to express our concerns. 

Master Tier subscription questions (sorry if these have been answered already). Let's say I play with two groups, one with 5 players, the other with 6 (one of whom is also in the other group). If I have a master tier subscription, and create two campaigns it sounds like I can share my purchased products with all 10 players.

What if I had a 3rd campaign with some of the folks from both of the other groups--does the same player, but in two campaign still only count as one player slot? 

What if I joined another group with different players; is there a way to unlock more sharing slots?

Can all those players have free subs? 

As per forum post, a DM can purchase all the books ($90) and pay $6 a month for the option to share all that content with up to 12 other players.

So if I go all in as a DM ($162) and charge twelve people $2 a month, I can make all my money back and start turning a profit in just under 7 months months.

Good to know... ;)