Starting at 3rd level, you can use your reaction to deflect or catch the missile when you are hit by a ranged weapon attack. When you do so, the damage you take from the attack is reduced by 1d10 + your Dexterity modifier + your monk level.
If you reduce the damage to 0, you can catch the missile if it is small enough for you to hold in one hand and you have at least one hand free. If you catch a missile in this way, you can spend 1 ki point to make a ranged attack with the weapon or piece of ammunition you just caught, as part of the same reaction. You make this attack with proficiency, regardless of your weapon proficiencies, and the missile counts as a monk weapon for the attack.
Bolded the important parts mostly but I guess strength would affect what you can hold in one hand to throw said object back... generally STR is useless towards this other then affecting what you can lift, but if you're talking about a stone giant throwing stones at you, you still have to reduce the damage to 0 to throw it back to my understanding, regardless of how strong you are, but I wish you luck in hurling large objects back at people! DM has final say though so could always ask them!
"As I was pulling away and she was walking in the cross walk I witnessed the horror of another car driving through the cross walk (to busy yelling at their teenager who was wearing headphones and not caring) not even notice her and go straight at her. In high heels and a long skirt, she planted one hand on the car hood, kicked her feet out and used it's motion and her agility to change her direction from going under the car to being beside it."
Just want to point out that sounds like a successful dex save with evasion.
Ok. I am reviving this topic. DM just gave my Monk a belt of stone giant strength. Can I now catch and return said stone or still only deflect it?
I know rule states that I reduce damage to 0 it is caught... Just looking to have some fun with this.
All that item does is change your Strength score. Strength is not involved in the calculation for deflect missiles in any way.
As for a "large" stone/boulder/whatever... if you can actually manage to mitigate the damage down to 0 (36 is the maximum possible--at level 20--without homebrew/epic boons/wondrous items that 98% of players will never see) then the "stone" probably wasn't that big to begin with.
Regardless, it has to be of a size that you could physically wield with one hand, and that's going to be up to your DM. I'd personally say that no object with a surface area larger than 2-3 times the surface area of your closed fist is capable of being thrown back.
You don't know what fear is until you've witnessed a drunk bird divebombing you while carrying a screaming Kobold throwing fire anywhere and everywhere.
Hi I am currently playing a Kensei Monk whose Kensei weapons are the Longsword and the Longbow and I was wondering if anybody knows if with the deflect missiles feature you could catch the missile and then load it into the Longbow and fire it back at the target. Thanks
Hi I am currently playing a Kensei Monk whose Kensei weapons are the Longsword and the Longbow and I was wondering if anybody knows if with the deflect missiles feature you could catch the missile and then load it into the Longbow and fire it back at the target. Thanks
Technically no (the caught projectile is thrown back), but I see no reason why it couldn't be described that way. Throwing a caught projectile has you throw it as if it were a monk weapon. As a Kensei, your longbow is a monk weapon, so they have the same damage die from Martial Arts. You would not get any benefits from your bow, however (magic item bonuses & range), as that is absolutely not allowed by the ability Deflect Missiles. Ranged attack, Monk weapon damage, normal/long range of 20/60 ft, and no magic enhancement bonus (unless the projectile itself is magical).
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You don't know what fear is until you've witnessed a drunk bird divebombing you while carrying a screaming Kobold throwing fire anywhere and everywhere.
So even if I had my Longbow out I shot an arrow at a goblin or something but it didn't kill him and he shot an arrow back at me and I caught it and loaded it into the bow in my other hand I still wouldn't be able to shoot the caught arrow.
The whole point of this is that if you can catch an arrow and throw it back at someone you could certainly load the arrow into your bow and launch it back at them.
Hi I am currently playing a Kensei Monk whose Kensei weapons are the Longsword and the Longbow and I was wondering if anybody knows if with the deflect missiles feature you could catch the missile and then load it into the Longbow and fire it back at the target. Thanks
Technically no (the caught projectile is thrown back), but I see no reason why it couldn't be described that way. Throwing a caught projectile has you throw it as if it were a monk weapon. As a Kensei, your longbow is a monk weapon, so they have the same damage die from Martial Arts. You would not get any benefits from your bow, however (magic item bonuses & range), as that is absolutely not allowed by the ability Deflect Missiles. Ranged attack, Monk weapon damage, normal/long range of 20/60 ft, and no magic enhancement bonus (unless the projectile itself is magical).
So what you are trying to say is that I would be able to launch the arrow back it just wouldn't use the Longbow statistics. That to me doesn't make sense.
Hi I am currently playing a Kensei Monk whose Kensei weapons are the Longsword and the Longbow and I was wondering if anybody knows if with the deflect missiles feature you could catch the missile and then load it into the Longbow and fire it back at the target. Thanks
Technically no (the caught projectile is thrown back), but I see no reason why it couldn't be described that way. Throwing a caught projectile has you throw it as if it were a monk weapon. As a Kensei, your longbow is a monk weapon, so they have the same damage die from Martial Arts. You would not get any benefits from your bow, however (magic item bonuses & range), as that is absolutely not allowed by the ability Deflect Missiles. Ranged attack, Monk weapon damage, normal/long range of 20/60 ft, and no magic enhancement bonus (unless the projectile itself is magical).
So what you are trying to say is that I would be able to launch the arrow back it just wouldn't use the Longbow statistics. That to me doesn't make sense.
You could describe it as using the longbow, but mechanically using the Longbow statistics is not something the ability allows.
Descriptively, it does make sense too. You catch an arrow as a reaction, and then as a part of the same reaction you fire the arrow back with your bow. Would you really expect to do that--in a fraction of the time it takes for your normal Attack action attacks--with the same level of power & accuracy as a normal shot? No way! You'd catch the arrow, haphazardly knock it on the string, and take a low-tension snap shot. The description of using your longbow in that manner conforms to the mechanics of what the Deflect Missiles ability actually dictates.
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You don't know what fear is until you've witnessed a drunk bird divebombing you while carrying a screaming Kobold throwing fire anywhere and everywhere.
At this point the argument would be one to bring up with your DM, personally if the monk was using a longbow at the time they were shot at I could very much see them quickly loading it into their longbow, that said I do believe the main thing they do is keep the momentum of the shot going and simply reverse it's direction. So it is one of those things were you kind of want to let the player do the cool thing and load it into their bow, which they totally could do if they know the correct style with which to shoot and not the slow useless modern way... or you stick with the rules and they have to throw it, this is a fraction of a second reaction move after all.
So you can catch an arrow and throw it back in a couple of seconds but you can't catch an arrow and pull it back on the string and fire it back?
You can do what your abilities say you can do. I'm going to quote the actual ability description, so that you can be completely clear on what it does:
Deflect Missiles
Starting at 3rd level, you can use your reaction to deflect or catch the missile when you are hit by a ranged weapon attack. When you do so, the damage you take from the attack is reduced by 1d10 + your Dexterity modifier + your monk level.
If you reduce the damage to 0, you can catch the missile if it is small enough for you to hold in one hand and you have at least one hand free. If you catch a missile in this way, you can spend 1 ki point to make a ranged attack with the weapon or piece of ammunition you just caught, as part of the same reaction. You make this attack with proficiency, regardless of your weapon proficiencies, and the missile counts as a monk weapon for the attack, which has a normal range of 20 feet and a long range of 60 feet.
You are making the attack with whatever you just caught, not with anything else.
The missile is a monk weapon.
Ammunition does not have its own damage die, so it uses the martial arts damage die of your current level.
A caught weapon (Javelin, Dagger, Handaxe, etc) that does have its own damage die can use whichever is higher.
Catching an arrow and describing the attack as shooting it back with your bow does not mean you are making an attack with your bow. You did not catch a Longbow; you caught an arrow.
The attack has a normal range of 20 feet and a long range of 60 feet.
This ability is very clear on what it allows you to actually do. Anything beyond this is purely descriptive. Homebrew & house rules are in the domain of your individual DM.
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You don't know what fear is until you've witnessed a drunk bird divebombing you while carrying a screaming Kobold throwing fire anywhere and everywhere.
So you can catch an arrow and throw it back in a couple of seconds but you can't catch an arrow and pull it back on the string and fire it back?
You have maybe 2-3 seconds to catch it and then redirect it. It is faster to catch and then throw, otherwise you could catch it and then use the ammo you just caught on your next turn since you did catch it.
I always picture this as the monk putting his hands around the projectile and then spinning to redirect the momentum towards another target. Not catch, hold for a few seconds and then release. My mental picture matches up with how the rules work pretty well.
With regards to the earlier question as to whether a Belt of Giant strength changes anything - ask your DM. It is an interpretation issue and the DM might rule that with giant strength you can hold a boulder in one hand. These boulders that giants throw are not relly that large... in prior editions they were identified to start at 40 lbs (but could go up in size). A character with 25 strength could probably palm a boulder if they have nice long fingers.
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So you can catch an arrow and throw it back in a couple of seconds but you can't catch an arrow and pull it back on the string and fire it back?
You have maybe 2-3 seconds to catch it and then redirect it. It is faster to catch and then throw, otherwise you could catch it and then use the ammo you just caught on your next turn since you did catch it.
So you can catch an arrow and throw it back in a couple of seconds but you can't catch an arrow and pull it back on the string and fire it back?
You have maybe 2-3 seconds to catch it and then redirect it. It is faster to catch and then throw, otherwise you could catch it and then use the ammo you just caught on your next turn since you did catch it.
Someone doesn't watch Lars Andersen.
I have seen Lars Andersen. It is still faster to take the arrow in hand, spin with it to redirect it, then throw rather than catch and flip the arrow to get a shot in. You'd still have to pull the string back and get it at the right angle before shooting, and unfortunately Lars Andersen who does rapid shots still needs to line up the initial shot.
Ok. I am reviving this topic. DM just gave my Monk a belt of stone giant strength. Can I now catch and return said stone or still only deflect it?
I know rule states that I reduce damage to 0 it is caught... Just looking to have some fun with this.
Starting at 3rd level, you can use your reaction to deflect or catch the missile when you are hit by a ranged weapon attack. When you do so, the damage you take from the attack is reduced by 1d10 + your Dexterity modifier + your monk level.
If you reduce the damage to 0, you can catch the missile if it is small enough for you to hold in one hand and you have at least one hand free. If you catch a missile in this way, you can spend 1 ki point to make a ranged attack with the weapon or piece of ammunition you just caught, as part of the same reaction. You make this attack with proficiency, regardless of your weapon proficiencies, and the missile counts as a monk weapon for the attack.
Bolded the important parts mostly but I guess strength would affect what you can hold in one hand to throw said object back... generally STR is useless towards this other then affecting what you can lift, but if you're talking about a stone giant throwing stones at you, you still have to reduce the damage to 0 to throw it back to my understanding, regardless of how strong you are, but I wish you luck in hurling large objects back at people! DM has final say though so could always ask them!
"As I was pulling away and she was walking in the cross walk I witnessed the horror of another car driving through the cross walk (to busy yelling at their teenager who was wearing headphones and not caring) not even notice her and go straight at her. In high heels and a long skirt, she planted one hand on the car hood, kicked her feet out and used it's motion and her agility to change her direction from going under the car to being beside it."
Just want to point out that sounds like a successful dex save with evasion.
All that item does is change your Strength score. Strength is not involved in the calculation for deflect missiles in any way.
As for a "large" stone/boulder/whatever... if you can actually manage to mitigate the damage down to 0 (36 is the maximum possible--at level 20--without homebrew/epic boons/wondrous items that 98% of players will never see) then the "stone" probably wasn't that big to begin with.
Regardless, it has to be of a size that you could physically wield with one hand, and that's going to be up to your DM. I'd personally say that no object with a surface area larger than 2-3 times the surface area of your closed fist is capable of being thrown back.
You don't know what fear is until you've witnessed a drunk bird divebombing you while carrying a screaming Kobold throwing fire anywhere and everywhere.
Hi I am currently playing a Kensei Monk whose Kensei weapons are the Longsword and the Longbow and I was wondering if anybody knows if with the deflect missiles feature you could catch the missile and then load it into the Longbow and fire it back at the target. Thanks
Technically no (the caught projectile is thrown back), but I see no reason why it couldn't be described that way. Throwing a caught projectile has you throw it as if it were a monk weapon. As a Kensei, your longbow is a monk weapon, so they have the same damage die from Martial Arts. You would not get any benefits from your bow, however (magic item bonuses & range), as that is absolutely not allowed by the ability Deflect Missiles. Ranged attack, Monk weapon damage, normal/long range of 20/60 ft, and no magic enhancement bonus (unless the projectile itself is magical).
You don't know what fear is until you've witnessed a drunk bird divebombing you while carrying a screaming Kobold throwing fire anywhere and everywhere.
So even if I had my Longbow out I shot an arrow at a goblin or something but it didn't kill him and he shot an arrow back at me and I caught it and loaded it into the bow in my other hand I still wouldn't be able to shoot the caught arrow.
Also I thought that you could choose to replace the weapons damage die with the one in the Martial Arts table.
The whole point of this is that if you can catch an arrow and throw it back at someone you could certainly load the arrow into your bow and launch it back at them.
So what you are trying to say is that I would be able to launch the arrow back it just wouldn't use the Longbow statistics. That to me doesn't make sense.
You could describe it as using the longbow, but mechanically using the Longbow statistics is not something the ability allows.
Descriptively, it does make sense too. You catch an arrow as a reaction, and then as a part of the same reaction you fire the arrow back with your bow. Would you really expect to do that--in a fraction of the time it takes for your normal Attack action attacks--with the same level of power & accuracy as a normal shot? No way! You'd catch the arrow, haphazardly knock it on the string, and take a low-tension snap shot. The description of using your longbow in that manner conforms to the mechanics of what the Deflect Missiles ability actually dictates.
You don't know what fear is until you've witnessed a drunk bird divebombing you while carrying a screaming Kobold throwing fire anywhere and everywhere.
So you can catch an arrow and throw it back in a couple of seconds but you can't catch an arrow and pull it back on the string and fire it back?
At this point the argument would be one to bring up with your DM, personally if the monk was using a longbow at the time they were shot at I could very much see them quickly loading it into their longbow, that said I do believe the main thing they do is keep the momentum of the shot going and simply reverse it's direction. So it is one of those things were you kind of want to let the player do the cool thing and load it into their bow, which they totally could do if they know the correct style with which to shoot and not the slow useless modern way... or you stick with the rules and they have to throw it, this is a fraction of a second reaction move after all.
You can do what your abilities say you can do. I'm going to quote the actual ability description, so that you can be completely clear on what it does:
This ability is very clear on what it allows you to actually do. Anything beyond this is purely descriptive. Homebrew & house rules are in the domain of your individual DM.
You don't know what fear is until you've witnessed a drunk bird divebombing you while carrying a screaming Kobold throwing fire anywhere and everywhere.
Yeah that's kinda what I figured out to. But my DM does let me use it in combat which is really nice.
You have maybe 2-3 seconds to catch it and then redirect it. It is faster to catch and then throw, otherwise you could catch it and then use the ammo you just caught on your next turn since you did catch it.
I always picture this as the monk putting his hands around the projectile and then spinning to redirect the momentum towards another target. Not catch, hold for a few seconds and then release. My mental picture matches up with how the rules work pretty well.
With regards to the earlier question as to whether a Belt of Giant strength changes anything - ask your DM. It is an interpretation issue and the DM might rule that with giant strength you can hold a boulder in one hand. These boulders that giants throw are not relly that large... in prior editions they were identified to start at 40 lbs (but could go up in size). A character with 25 strength could probably palm a boulder if they have nice long fingers.
D&D since 79. New to the Carolinas and looking for Gamers.
Someone doesn't watch Lars Andersen.
I have seen Lars Andersen. It is still faster to take the arrow in hand, spin with it to redirect it, then throw rather than catch and flip the arrow to get a shot in. You'd still have to pull the string back and get it at the right angle before shooting, and unfortunately Lars Andersen who does rapid shots still needs to line up the initial shot.
Fire Bolt actually states "You hurl a mote of fire". So, is there something to deflect?
mote
noun
beam