I'm about to start a new campaign using '24 rules and the DM is allowing us to backport pre-2024 sublasses with permission. I've yet to play a Ranger, but Swarmkeeper caught my eye- however I have a question regarding the interaction between Writhing Tide and the 2024 version of Roving.
The 2014 Roving feature found under Deft Explorer specified that walking speed was increased, but the 2024 version just references "Your Speed". Does this mean that when I reach level 7 and gain Writhing Tide, that Roving also applies to the 10ft of Flying Speed granted by the feature?
If so, then it would reason that I could stack on Longstrider and Speedy to gain 40ft of Flight for 1 minute with each activation of Writhing Tide.
Writhing Tide gives you a flying speed of 10 feet. It's not based on your existing speed, it's just a flat 10 feet, so I don't think it would be affected by passive features like Roving or Speedy that increase your base speed. It would be different if it said something like "you gain a flying speed equal to your speed", a wording which some features do use.
However, the designers have said in the past that active effects that increase your current speed (like Longstrider) are intended to also increase any special speeds you have, so casting that spell while you have a fly speed would increase the fly speed as well as the walking speed.
I'm about to start a new campaign using '24 rules and the DM is allowing us to backport pre-2024 sublasses with permission. I've yet to play a Ranger, but Swarmkeeper caught my eye- however I have a question regarding the interaction between Writhing Tide and the 2024 version of Roving.
The 2014 Roving feature found under Deft Explorer specified that walking speed was increased, but the 2024 version just references "Your Speed". Does this mean that when I reach level 7 and gain Writhing Tide, that Roving also applies to the 10ft of Flying Speed granted by the feature?
If so, then it would reason that I could stack on Longstrider and Speedy to gain 40ft of Flight for 1 minute with each activation of Writhing Tide.
Am I reading this ruling correctly?
Writhing Tide gives you a flying speed of 10 feet. It's not based on your existing speed, it's just a flat 10 feet, so I don't think it would be affected by passive features like Roving or Speedy that increase your base speed. It would be different if it said something like "you gain a flying speed equal to your speed", a wording which some features do use.
However, the designers have said in the past that active effects that increase your current speed (like Longstrider) are intended to also increase any special speeds you have, so casting that spell while you have a fly speed would increase the fly speed as well as the walking speed.
There is an ongoing discussion about this here.
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