Hi, I'm creating my fist 2024 rogue and Ive never built one before.
My character is a black dragonborn rogue named Rustin Cohlscale (based on the True Detective character's personality).
Here's what Ive gathered from the 2024 rules, (please correct me if Im wrong)
Rustin's training with weapons allows him to use the mastery property of Daggers: Nick. When he makes the extra attack of the Light property, he can make it as part of the Attack action instead of as a Bonus Action. He can make this extra attack only once per turn.
So Short Sword + Dagger = 1 Action
Rustin's training also allows him to use the mastery property of Shortswords: Vex. If he hits a creature with a Shortsword and deals damage to the creature, he has Advantage on his next attack roll against that creature before the end of his next turn.
Cunning Action. His quick thinking and agility allow him to move and act quickly. On Rust's turn, he can take one of the following actions as a Bonus Action: Dash, Disengage, or Hide.
Dash. When Rustin takes the Dash action, he gains extra movement for the current turn. The increase equals his Speed after applying any modifiers. With a Speed of 30 feet, for example, he can move up to 60 feet on his turn if he Dashes.
So... Weapon mastery property Nick, plus Cunning Action means Rustin can stab with the short sword AND dagger AND still move 60' in a turn.
Plus if he has Advantage (Vex) on the target OR an ally is within 5' of the target he can add Sneak Attack damage (3d6) to one weapon attack.
Opportunity Attack as Rust dashes away after striking? Uncanny Dodge. When an attacker that you can see hits you with an attack roll, you can take a Reaction to halve the attack’s damage against you (round down).
Therefore this rogue can stab+stab+dash in a single turn?
You have all of the mechanics correctly. You an attack with both weapons as part of the Attack action, hitting with your Shortsword will grant you advantage on the attack with your Dagger allowing you to apply Sneak Attack, and you can still use Cunning Action to Dash, Disengage, or Hide as a Bonus Action.
Wait a minute. If you have already attacked, how do you sneak attack with another swing?
This reads as flat out cheating.
In this example, Sneak Attack is not being applied to the first attack, only to the second one. Sneak Attack can only be applied once per turn, but it doesn't have to be on the first attack you make that turn.
If you move 30 feet you can then dash for 30 more feet.
If you attack, you have not moved, but you can dash for 30 feet.
You can not attack and move for 60 feet. Wouldn't that be 3 actions?
As described in the original post, Rogues have a level 2 feature called Cunning Action that allows (among other things) taking the Dash action as a bonus action. In this example the Rogue is using their action to take the Attack action and their bonus action to take the Dash action via that feature. One action and one bonus action, not three of anything.
Wait a minute. If you have already attacked, how do you sneak attack with another swing?
This reads as flat out cheating.
In this example, Sneak Attack is not being applied to the first attack, only to the second one. Sneak Attack can only be applied once per turn, but it doesn't have to be on the first attack you make that turn.
If you move 30 feet you can then dash for 30 more feet.
If you attack, you have not moved, but you can dash for 30 feet.
You can not attack and move for 60 feet. Wouldn't that be 3 actions?
As described in the original post, Rogues have a level 2 feature called Cunning Action that allows (among other things) taking the Dash action as a bonus action. In this example the Rogue is using their action to take the Attack action and their bonus action to take the Dash action via that feature. One action and one bonus action, not three of anything.
Can you sneak attack every round assuming you have either advantage or an ally?
Can an ally be another PC's familiar? If yes, does the Familiar have to be visible? (e.g. warlock's invisible Imp)
So in my turn any character can move 30 feet, attack, and still do a bonus action?
Yes, you can sneak attack once per round assuming you meet the requirements to do so.
The second question is tricky - I would personally rule that if they are invisible it doesn't count but I'm not an expert on the RAW surrounding that.
Third question - yes. The basic rule of combat in DnD is that every round you have 1. your movement 2. an action 3. a bonus action. It is up to you if you spend these or what order you spend them in but you by default can do all three of those things
You are right that the word sneaky is somewhat misleading. The explanation as to what exactly a sneak attack is in the 2024 PHB is:
"You know how to strike subtly and exploit a foe’s distraction."
I've always interpreted it as using your advantage or the distracting presence of another ally to find a critical weakpoint or hit a more solid blow than usual, hence the extra damage.
RAW, the only requirements for sneak attacking with an ally are that the ally must be within 5 feet of the target, the ally doesn't have the incapacitated condition, and you don't have Disadvantage on the attack roll. That doesn't mention invisibility anywhere, so RAW an invisible familiar should be able to meet those criteria.
However, as a DM I would ask the player with the familiar to explain how their familiar is "distracting" the target of the Sneak Attack, especially if they're trying to do it without giving away their familiar's location.
Can you sneak attack every round assuming you have either advantage or an ally?
You can Sneak Attack once per turn, assuming you meet those requirements. The limit is once per turn, not once per round, so it's possible to do it on someone else's turn (as an Opportunity Attack or other reaction-based attack) even if you've already done it on your turn that round.
Hi, I'm creating my fist 2024 rogue and Ive never built one before.
My character is a black dragonborn rogue named Rustin Cohlscale (based on the True Detective character's personality).
Here's what Ive gathered from the 2024 rules, (please correct me if Im wrong)
Rustin's training with weapons allows him to use the mastery property of Daggers:
Nick. When he makes the extra attack of the Light property, he can make it as part of the Attack action instead of as a Bonus Action. He can make this extra attack only once per turn.
So Short Sword + Dagger = 1 Action
Rustin's training also allows him to use the mastery property of Shortswords:
Vex. If he hits a creature with a Shortsword and deals damage to the creature, he has Advantage on his next attack roll against that creature before the end of his next turn.
Cunning Action. His quick thinking and agility allow him to move and act quickly. On Rust's turn, he can take one of the following actions as a Bonus Action: Dash, Disengage, or Hide.
Dash. When Rustin takes the Dash action, he gains extra movement for the current turn. The increase equals his Speed after applying any modifiers. With a Speed of 30 feet, for example, he can move up to 60 feet on his turn if he Dashes.
So... Weapon mastery property Nick, plus Cunning Action means Rustin can stab with the short sword AND dagger AND still move 60' in a turn.
Plus if he has Advantage (Vex) on the target OR an ally is within 5' of the target he can add Sneak Attack damage (3d6) to one weapon attack.
Opportunity Attack as Rust dashes away after striking? Uncanny Dodge. When an attacker that you can see hits you with an attack roll, you can take a Reaction to halve the attack’s damage against you (round down).
Therefore this rogue can stab+stab+dash in a single turn?
You have all of the mechanics correctly. You an attack with both weapons as part of the Attack action, hitting with your Shortsword will grant you advantage on the attack with your Dagger allowing you to apply Sneak Attack, and you can still use Cunning Action to Dash, Disengage, or Hide as a Bonus Action.
Wait a minute. If you have already attacked, how do you sneak attack with another swing?
This reads as flat out cheating.
If you move 30 feet you can then dash for 30 more feet.
If you attack, you have not moved, but you can dash for 30 feet.
You can not attack and move for 60 feet. Wouldn't that be 3 actions?
Attack + 30ft movement + bonus action dash thanks to Cunning Action = attack and 60 ft movement
In this example, Sneak Attack is not being applied to the first attack, only to the second one. Sneak Attack can only be applied once per turn, but it doesn't have to be on the first attack you make that turn.
As described in the original post, Rogues have a level 2 feature called Cunning Action that allows (among other things) taking the Dash action as a bonus action. In this example the Rogue is using their action to take the Attack action and their bonus action to take the Dash action via that feature. One action and one bonus action, not three of anything.
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Thanks, it was a lot of layers to sort for this.
Can you sneak attack every round assuming you have either advantage or an ally?
Can an ally be another PC's familiar? If yes, does the Familiar have to be visible? (e.g. warlock's invisible Imp)
So in my turn any character can move 30 feet, attack, and still do a bonus action?
Yes, you can sneak attack once per round assuming you meet the requirements to do so.
The second question is tricky - I would personally rule that if they are invisible it doesn't count but I'm not an expert on the RAW surrounding that.
Third question - yes. The basic rule of combat in DnD is that every round you have 1. your movement 2. an action 3. a bonus action. It is up to you if you spend these or what order you spend them in but you by default can do all three of those things
2024 rules states a "Sneak Attack" bonus for a rogue can be added if the attack has either Advantage OR an "ally" is within 5ft. of the target.
The word Sneak now leans more into a "sneaky" strike than a "surprise".
Yes? Sorry, Im a Pally/cleric main and wanted to play something opposite of my regular characters and I'm slowly absorbing all of this.
You are right that the word sneaky is somewhat misleading. The explanation as to what exactly a sneak attack is in the 2024 PHB is:
I've always interpreted it as using your advantage or the distracting presence of another ally to find a critical weakpoint or hit a more solid blow than usual, hence the extra damage.
RAW, the only requirements for sneak attacking with an ally are that the ally must be within 5 feet of the target, the ally doesn't have the incapacitated condition, and you don't have Disadvantage on the attack roll. That doesn't mention invisibility anywhere, so RAW an invisible familiar should be able to meet those criteria.
However, as a DM I would ask the player with the familiar to explain how their familiar is "distracting" the target of the Sneak Attack, especially if they're trying to do it without giving away their familiar's location.
You can Sneak Attack once per turn, assuming you meet those requirements. The limit is once per turn, not once per round, so it's possible to do it on someone else's turn (as an Opportunity Attack or other reaction-based attack) even if you've already done it on your turn that round.
Yes. It can be any creature allied with you. The creature in question does not have to be visible.
Any character can take an action, take a bonus action, and move up to their Speed on their turn.
Moving isn't an action, if that's what's confusing you.
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