I'm looking to make a character that is CE and also a warlock with lots of dark spells and is very evil. I'm kind of new to making evil characters and could use some ideas. Does anyone have any ideas for subclasses? Nothing UA or homebrew
Edit: Thanks, I am probably going to go with the Fathomless. If you have any ideas let me know.
Be very careful making a CE character and make sure you have your DMs buy in especially if the rest of the party are going to ge generally good.
For example, if you steal from the other party members or torture people for information, kill the innocent or any of a number of other things that other members of the party find abhorant if they act "as their character would" they would be taking you to the guard and expose your crimes are at least stop adventuring with you so they are not associated with (or victims of) such crimes. You end up either with having to re-role a more party friendly character or everyone hating the game because their character can't act natuarally for metagaming reasons.
It is possible but very difficult to play an evil character in a good party, especially if your character is CE. You have to act all the time as a respectable hero while all the time scheming, getting the party to do things which seem good on the surface but in the end will serve your (or your patron's) evil plan, and I don't mean really on good stealth to avoid detection.
Assuming the above isn't a show stopper:
While is is possible to play a CE characte with a LG patron I think you really want to be aligned with your Patrons goals, for
This reason I would advise agaist Celestial as while there are a few evil celesrtials I am nor aware of any chaotic one None of the Genie kind are CE though you could work for an NE Dao or a CN Marid
Outside of this you can pick pretty much any subclass whether you want o serve a demon lord, a lich, a krake or the queen of air and darkness
Thank you, I will check with my DM before including the character. Lots of people have been evil in my group so I'm not too worried. I appreciate the insight though and will take it into account. Do you know of any particular demon lords or devils that could be my patron?
So... anything but Celestial? Its pretty easy to go evil and dark magic here. The only question is... what kind of evil? Evil is just a broad philosophy in DnD. It doesn't really tell us much.
So, the question really becomes... what do you feel like playing? Something necromancer-ish? Hellfire and burning? Mind controlly? Tentacles swallowing you?
I play a CE Fathomless with Cthulhu as a patron and the group is generally good alignment. It works fine for us.
I game plan is; how far can I push the envelope without crossing the line and fracture the group?
I made a post in the Story and Lore section of this forum (Cult of the Silver Star) describing how he is starting a cult. The cult leans towards chaos rather than acts of evil and “willingness” by member instead of being forced. The motive is self-serving on my characters part but should generally work with our group. I hope!
Alternate evil patrons that I like are the demon lords, arch-devils and other Mythos gods. So, Undead, Great Old One, Fiend and Hexblade seem cool.
Maybe, Beelzebub patron with Cloak of Flies invocation with jacked Deception skill.
Thank you, I will check with my DM before including the character. Lots of people have been evil in my group so I'm not too worried. I appreciate the insight though and will take it into account. Do you know of any particular demon lords or devils that could be my patron?
Devils are very lawful, so would be very much opposed to your chaotic nature, that is an option but it should lead to tensions between you and your patron.
A Demon Lord is the obvious parton for a CE character.
Regarding which specific patron, that depends on what you want and what fits your campaign, I do not know what would even exist your campaign multiverse discuss options with your DM.
If you intend to take the Chaotic Evil path, and if your DM allows you to take a path that could warp the campaign (the player characters are supposed to be 'heroic' not 'villianous'), then one of the Devil Lords should be your patron AND your Master (Darth Vader is compelled by the Dark Path to serve Emperor Palpatine) as well as the Owner of your pitiful worthless soul.
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I'm looking to make a character that is CE and also a warlock with lots of dark spells and is very evil. I'm kind of new to making evil characters and could use some ideas. Does anyone have any ideas for subclasses? Nothing UA or homebrew
Edit: Thanks, I am probably going to go with the Fathomless. If you have any ideas let me know.
PM me the words tomato and/or banana!
Check out my homebrew.
I love dragons.
Be very careful making a CE character and make sure you have your DMs buy in especially if the rest of the party are going to ge generally good.
For example, if you steal from the other party members or torture people for information, kill the innocent or any of a number of other things that other members of the party find abhorant if they act "as their character would" they would be taking you to the guard and expose your crimes are at least stop adventuring with you so they are not associated with (or victims of) such crimes. You end up either with having to re-role a more party friendly character or everyone hating the game because their character can't act natuarally for metagaming reasons.
It is possible but very difficult to play an evil character in a good party, especially if your character is CE. You have to act all the time as a respectable hero while all the time scheming, getting the party to do things which seem good on the surface but in the end will serve your (or your patron's) evil plan, and I don't mean really on good stealth to avoid detection.
Assuming the above isn't a show stopper:
While is is possible to play a CE characte with a LG patron I think you really want to be aligned with your Patrons goals, for
This reason I would advise agaist Celestial as while there are a few evil celesrtials I am nor aware of any chaotic one
None of the Genie kind are CE though you could work for an NE Dao or a CN Marid
Outside of this you can pick pretty much any subclass whether you want o serve a demon lord, a lich, a krake or the queen of air and darkness
Thank you, I will check with my DM before including the character. Lots of people have been evil in my group so I'm not too worried. I appreciate the insight though and will take it into account. Do you know of any particular demon lords or devils that could be my patron?
PM me the words tomato and/or banana!
Check out my homebrew.
I love dragons.
So... anything but Celestial? Its pretty easy to go evil and dark magic here. The only question is... what kind of evil? Evil is just a broad philosophy in DnD. It doesn't really tell us much.
So, the question really becomes... what do you feel like playing? Something necromancer-ish? Hellfire and burning? Mind controlly? Tentacles swallowing you?
I play a CE Fathomless with Cthulhu as a patron and the group is generally good alignment. It works fine for us.
I game plan is; how far can I push the envelope without crossing the line and fracture the group?
I made a post in the Story and Lore section of this forum (Cult of the Silver Star) describing how he is starting a cult. The cult leans towards chaos rather than acts of evil and “willingness” by member instead of being forced. The motive is self-serving on my characters part but should generally work with our group. I hope!
Alternate evil patrons that I like are the demon lords, arch-devils and other Mythos gods. So, Undead, Great Old One, Fiend and Hexblade seem cool.
Maybe, Beelzebub patron with Cloak of Flies invocation with jacked Deception skill.
Devils are very lawful, so would be very much opposed to your chaotic nature, that is an option but it should lead to tensions between you and your patron.
A Demon Lord is the obvious parton for a CE character.
Regarding which specific patron, that depends on what you want and what fits your campaign, I do not know what would even exist your campaign multiverse discuss options with your DM.
If you intend to take the Chaotic Evil path, and if your DM allows you to take a path that could warp the campaign (the player characters are supposed to be 'heroic' not 'villianous'), then one of the Devil Lords should be your patron AND your Master (Darth Vader is compelled by the Dark Path to serve Emperor Palpatine) as well as the Owner of your pitiful worthless soul.