Hi. My DM and I had a 2 minute talk at the end of our session about upcasting. On our brief look over the rules it looked like warlocks non-arcanum spells upcast capped out at 5th level. Is this correct? That feels super bad. If its not. Where is the fine print that says they upcast right to 9th?
Warlocks pact slots cap at 5th level. And no this is not bad. Yes you can't upcast a spell too 6th+ but warlock still gets mystic arcanum which allows the casting of spells at equal levels to full casters.
Warlock gets far more 5th level casts than any other class. At level 11 getting a 3rd pact slot means being able to cast... 11 5th level spells per day assuming 2 short rests. This goes too 14 at level 17. Add on to this that warlock has the best cantrip in the game and can easily be specced into melee at the cost of a few invocations... at 20th level it becomes 16, altho I had hoped for a better capstone than an additional 2 5th level casts... 14 to 16 isn't a big deal.
I'll note that some warlock spells would become far too powerful if they could be upcast to 9th level like Armor of Agathys (45 temp HP & 45 cold damage!). Given that Armor of Agathys only ends from duration or not having temporary HP any more, that can get even more broken (Power Word Fortify)
Sadly 5th level. I wish the current capstone had been slotted into 18th level and the true capstone had been pact slots upcast to 6th or 7th level. Still capped at learning 5th level spells but pure upcasting up a level or two for a capstone.
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Hi. My DM and I had a 2 minute talk at the end of our session about upcasting. On our brief look over the rules it looked like warlocks non-arcanum spells upcast capped out at 5th level. Is this correct? That feels super bad. If its not. Where is the fine print that says they upcast right to 9th?
Warlocks pact slots cap at 5th level. And no this is not bad. Yes you can't upcast a spell too 6th+ but warlock still gets mystic arcanum which allows the casting of spells at equal levels to full casters.
Warlock gets far more 5th level casts than any other class. At level 11 getting a 3rd pact slot means being able to cast... 11 5th level spells per day assuming 2 short rests. This goes too 14 at level 17. Add on to this that warlock has the best cantrip in the game and can easily be specced into melee at the cost of a few invocations... at 20th level it becomes 16, altho I had hoped for a better capstone than an additional 2 5th level casts... 14 to 16 isn't a big deal.
I'll note that some warlock spells would become far too powerful if they could be upcast to 9th level like Armor of Agathys (45 temp HP & 45 cold damage!). Given that Armor of Agathys only ends from duration or not having temporary HP any more, that can get even more broken (Power Word Fortify)
thanks for clarifying and putting it in perspective.
Sadly 5th level. I wish the current capstone had been slotted into 18th level and the true capstone had been pact slots upcast to 6th or 7th level. Still capped at learning 5th level spells but pure upcasting up a level or two for a capstone.