Greeting all. I have a celestial warlock that ready to reach 3rd level. I am thinking of going pack of the chain for a familiar. My patron is an angel named Micus, he served Mystra loyally until her death, and now is trying to carrying on her work. Since Mystra was/is the god of magic, and allowed anyone good or evil to worship her as long as they continued the advancement of magic, I would assume my patron would have the same out look.
My question is would he have a problem with me getting a imp for a familiar. I know in the PHB it says "you"the player picks the type of familiar,but I have been having issues with our GM allowing things. He has already told me that a angel would not allow an imp, but why wouldn't one who served Mystra allow it. I believe he is thinking of more of a lawful good god like Tyr. Any suggestions would be appericated
If I am interpreting the Find Familiar spell correctly, you familiar is a spirit that takes the form of another creature. It may have the abilities of the creature, but it isn't that creature. Thus, your familiar my look like, and have the abilities of, but it is a celestial spirit with an alignment equal to you own.
The exception to this is if you try to bind a true imp as a familiar (see the Imp in the monster manual - as a familiar option).
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Watch your back, conserve your ammo, and NEVER cut a deal with a dragon!
The Find Familliar spell says your familiar takes the form of one of the beasts listed, but it's actually a celestial, fey or fiend spirit. There's some dispute about whether you can choose what type of spirit takes the form of one of the special Chain Pact familiar types, my interpretation is that you can. So, nothing in the rules say a Celestial Chainlock can't have an Imp, and nothing in the rules says they can't choose for it to be a Fiend. It's just a question of whether at your table you've got to find a way to justify it from a character perspective. Personally if I was a DM, I'd want a REALLY good reason why a Celestial Warlock had a Fiend familiar.
You can be trying to convert the imp to be good! thus it could lose its infernal status later in the game. I did this once I was playing a good character and bonded a demon to myself. slowly converting it to good. It did take me down a darker path sometimes but it was a fun game.
My Celestial warlock has an imp. Not a celestial in imp form. Not an imp reskinned as something else. Just a regular imp wearing what appear to be golden manacles.
While Red's patron is a being of pure good, Red isn't. He sees nothing at all wrong with enslaving a tiny demon to do his bidding and potentially get sent to it's death repeatedly. Unlike a free range imp that can become a Wizard's familiar with the intent of corrupting him, a Warlock's imp doesn't have the option of leaving the familiar pact. It is the Warlock's to do with what he will. Other Warlocks may have a more friendly relationship with their familiars. Red doesn't.
I could see that as a possible thing, as far as RP goes. Maybe the imp accidentally (or purposefully) absorbed/ate a human soul, and gained a degree of empathy, or fear for its life, and attempted to escape the Nine Hells. Maybe in the war between Angels & Devils, it was captured, and given a chance to redeem itself. Maybe he was just picked on, and abused so much that he just decided to leave, and/or discovered kindness from your warlock?
the spirit is either Celestial, Fey, or Fiendish...the choice is yours.Get you DM permission and you can keep the stat block and have a shoulder angel instead. same stats, just reskinned.
I have a fey familiar and my Imp looks like this: My DM gave permission as I explained my Fey spirit chafed at looking like a fiend.
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Greeting all. I have a celestial warlock that ready to reach 3rd level. I am thinking of going pack of the chain for a familiar. My patron is an angel named Micus, he served Mystra loyally until her death, and now is trying to carrying on her work. Since Mystra was/is the god of magic, and allowed anyone good or evil to worship her as long as they continued the advancement of magic, I would assume my patron would have the same out look.
My question is would he have a problem with me getting a imp for a familiar. I know in the PHB it says "you"the player picks the type of familiar,but I have been having issues with our GM allowing things. He has already told me that a angel would not allow an imp, but why wouldn't one who served Mystra allow it. I believe he is thinking of more of a lawful good god like Tyr. Any suggestions would be appericated
The imp could be in its polymorphed form, disguising itself as a raven/rat/spider while trying to corrupt the warlock.
I stole my pfp from this person: https://mobile.twitter.com/xelart1/status/1177312449575432193
If I am interpreting the Find Familiar spell correctly, you familiar is a spirit that takes the form of another creature. It may have the abilities of the creature, but it isn't that creature. Thus, your familiar my look like, and have the abilities of, but it is a celestial spirit with an alignment equal to you own.
The exception to this is if you try to bind a true imp as a familiar (see the Imp in the monster manual - as a familiar option).
Watch your back, conserve your ammo,
and NEVER cut a deal with a dragon!
Tell your GM to use the Imp Stats and have it be a Celestial instead of Infernal.
You're just reskinning it to fit your flavor.
The "Imp" is just a stat line, that's been decided by the Dev to be balanced for the class. Don't get caught up over what it's exact name.
The Find Familliar spell says your familiar takes the form of one of the beasts listed, but it's actually a celestial, fey or fiend spirit. There's some dispute about whether you can choose what type of spirit takes the form of one of the special Chain Pact familiar types, my interpretation is that you can. So, nothing in the rules say a Celestial Chainlock can't have an Imp, and nothing in the rules says they can't choose for it to be a Fiend. It's just a question of whether at your table you've got to find a way to justify it from a character perspective. Personally if I was a DM, I'd want a REALLY good reason why a Celestial Warlock had a Fiend familiar.
A really good reason a Good character would have a fiend for a familiar would be to prevent it from leading astray anyone else.
Kinda like when Megan Fox had that little Decepticon on a leash in the Transformers sequel? :)
I would reskin the imp and call it a cherub. His sting would be his tiny bow.
ooo Character moment!
You can be trying to convert the imp to be good! thus it could lose its infernal status later in the game. I did this once I was playing a good character and bonded a demon to myself. slowly converting it to good. It did take me down a darker path sometimes but it was a fun game.
My Celestial warlock has an imp. Not a celestial in imp form. Not an imp reskinned as something else. Just a regular imp wearing what appear to be golden manacles.
While Red's patron is a being of pure good, Red isn't. He sees nothing at all wrong with enslaving a tiny demon to do his bidding and potentially get sent to it's death repeatedly. Unlike a free range imp that can become a Wizard's familiar with the intent of corrupting him, a Warlock's imp doesn't have the option of leaving the familiar pact. It is the Warlock's to do with what he will. Other Warlocks may have a more friendly relationship with their familiars. Red doesn't.
It's not an actual imp, it's the literal manifestation of your characters negative emotions purged from his body by the celestial patron?
I dunno, there aren't in-game rules preventing you from having it, but it should have some kind of explanation and that one feels good enough.
I could see that as a possible thing, as far as RP goes. Maybe the imp accidentally (or purposefully) absorbed/ate a human soul, and gained a degree of empathy, or fear for its life, and attempted to escape the Nine Hells. Maybe in the war between Angels & Devils, it was captured, and given a chance to redeem itself. Maybe he was just picked on, and abused so much that he just decided to leave, and/or discovered kindness from your warlock?
the spirit is either Celestial, Fey, or Fiendish...the choice is yours.Get you DM permission and you can keep the stat block and have a shoulder angel instead. same stats, just reskinned.
I have a fey familiar and my Imp looks like this: My DM gave permission as I explained my Fey spirit chafed at looking like a fiend.