The pact of the blade says you can create a pact weapon in your empty hand. Does that mean that you can create two pact weapons? Because it doesn't say that you can't, but neither does it say that you can.
You cannot create two Pact Weapons, but you can have both one Pact Weapon (from your Pact choice) and one Hexblade Weapon (from your Patron choice), both of which can use +CHA for attack and damage.
You cannot create two Pact Weapons, but you can have both one Pact Weapon (from your Pact choice) and one Hexblade Weapon (from your Patron choice), both of which can use +CHA for attack and damage.
You cannot create two Pact Weapons, but you can have both one Pact Weapon (from your Pact choice) and one Hexblade Weapon (from your Patron choice), both of which can use +CHA for attack and damage.
That is good to know! Might just save the build! Thanks man! ^^
Bare in mind that most spells require the use of a hand (somatic) unless you have the War Caster feat.
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DM: Are you sure?
Wizard: Yes. I cast the Wish spell and I wish that everybody loves me!
DM: You transform into an irresistible, magnificent feast. It was so great, all who participated in devouring you tell of the joy they felt with tears in their eyes and all who hear the tale only feel sorrow that they weren't there to eat.
You cannot create two Pact Weapons, but you can have both one Pact Weapon (from your Pact choice) and one Hexblade Weapon (from your Patron choice), both of which can use +CHA for attack and damage.
You can also use the improved pact weapon invocation to use your pact weapon as a spellcasting focus. Which will help a little (at least for spells with a material component).
You can also use the improved pact weapon invocation to use your pact weapon as a spellcasting focus. Which will help a little (at least for spells with a material component).
That's true! That leaves room for a different feat! I totally forgot about the improved pact weapon! Thanks man! ^^
Its not the need of a focus that is the reason you will need War Caster. Its the somatic component, the wiggly finger hand movements, that are not allowed while carrying a second weapon or shield normally. I am considering taking 2 levels of fighter after 3rd level of Hexblade. But he's going to be a variant human with War Caster.
Its not the need of a focus that is the reason you will need War Caster. Its the somatic component, the wiggly finger hand movements, that are not allowed while carrying a second weapon or shield normally. I am considering taking 2 levels of fighter after 3rd level of Hexblade. But he's going to be a variant human with War Caster.
It can help with somatic component so long as the spell has a material component as well. The somatic component can be performed with the same hand that is holding a material component or focus needed for the spell.
Though this does not include eldritch blast, so probably a good idea to get war caster anyway.
I've got a HB Warlock with a magic weapon sword she normally uses, and has done the 1 hour "Pact" with it, for obvious Thirsting Blade reasons.
My question - if she gets improved Pact Weapon invocation, she can conjure a longbow. But, in order for it to be her pact weapon (because TB, Eldritch Smite, Hex, etc...) I assume I have to do a 1-hour "un-pacting" on the sword, before I can conjure a bow. The Pact status of the bow is immediate - but I'd have to do the 1-hour ritual on the sword again when she's done with the bow. I know that in a pinch, I can use the bow without it being a Pact Weapon, but I won't get full advantage.
This is a special sword - a literal gift from her Patron (it's not sentient, or anything) so it's not just "conjure a regular sword, or something...
Why not just keep the sword as a non-pact weapon? If your campaign/DM allows it, have it enchanted. That way, you can keep your pact weapon versatile on its own.
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DM: Are you sure?
Wizard: Yes. I cast the Wish spell and I wish that everybody loves me!
DM: You transform into an irresistible, magnificent feast. It was so great, all who participated in devouring you tell of the joy they felt with tears in their eyes and all who hear the tale only feel sorrow that they weren't there to eat.
Why not just keep the sword as a non-pact weapon? If your campaign/DM allows it, have it enchanted. That way, you can keep your pact weapon versatile on its own.
Well, for RP and mechanics reasons... She's currently level 10, and that sword has gotten her through some tough times. It's the go-to for damage, and having Thirsting Blade, Eldritch Smite, Hex or HB Curse added on has led to some serious damage dealing with it. I think she hit 120 damage in one round (with Armor of Agathys and Hellish Rebuke thrown in...) and her second swing with the blade was a miss.
He AC is low for stealth reasons, and she doesn't have Warcaster, so I was thinking Improved Pact Weapon for spellcasting focus AND longbow ranged attack opportunities. I know, I know... Warcaster / Resilient CON is much more than that, but I'm also focused on ASIs over feats.
I don't have a huge problem with having to spend an hour changing which weapon is the Pact Weapon, but I just wanted to understand that was the RAW. My DM may not enforce that, but I don't want to assume anything.
Thirsting Blade AND Eldritch Smite AND Lifedrinker ONLY works with the Pact Weapon, so signifying one as a Pact Weapon and the other (or, both/all) as a Hex Weapon does not help me.
Ah, gotcha. I didn't realize you wanted more than the +CHA for both weapons. I think that would require some homebrewing - perhaps you can pitch a new invocation to allow a second pact weapon (restricted to only use one per round) to the DM.
I don't know if this will help w/ your AC. If your DEX mod. is higher than +2, you may want to go w/ Armor of Shadows (unless there're RP/utility reasons that are a higher priority).
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DM: Are you sure?
Wizard: Yes. I cast the Wish spell and I wish that everybody loves me!
DM: You transform into an irresistible, magnificent feast. It was so great, all who participated in devouring you tell of the joy they felt with tears in their eyes and all who hear the tale only feel sorrow that they weren't there to eat.
I don't have a huge problem with having to spend an hour changing which weapon is the Pact Weapon, but I just wanted to understand that was the RAW. My DM may not enforce that, but I don't want to assume anything.
Yes, by RAW, she would first need to spend 1 hour doing the ritual to "un-pact" her pact weapon sword:
"The weapon ceases being your pact weapon if you die, if you perform the 1-hour ritual on a different weapon, or if you use a 1-hour ritual to break your bond to it."
From that point on, she could immediately conjure whatever weapon she wanted as her summoned pact weapon:
"You can use your action to create a pact weapon in your empty hand."
To use her magic sword as her pact weapon again, she'd need to spend another hour on the ritual to make it the pact weapon:
"You can transform one magic weapon into your pact weapon by performing a special ritual while you hold the weapon. You perform the ritual over the course of 1 hour, which can be done during a short rest. You can then dismiss the weapon, shunting it into an extradimensional space, and it appears whenever you create your pact weapon thereafter."
You can sheath or unsheath a weapon once as a free action in your turn. So if your weapons are out, you can put one away and cast your spell with the newly free hand. On your next turn, you can ready the weapon again and attack with both.
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The pact of the blade says you can create a pact weapon in your empty hand. Does that mean that you can create two pact weapons? Because it doesn't say that you can't, but neither does it say that you can.
"It also disappears if you use this feature again..." So it isn't that you can't, but making a second auto dismisses the first one.
You cannot create two Pact Weapons, but you can have both one Pact Weapon (from your Pact choice) and one Hexblade Weapon (from your Patron choice), both of which can use +CHA for attack and damage.
Please see https://rpg.stackexchange.com/q/109915/33204 and https://rpg.stackexchange.com/q/111371/33204 for explanations and links to Sage Advice clarification.
That is good to know! Might just save the build! Thanks man! ^^
Oh. I may have missed that bit. Dammit. Alright. Thanks for the help! ^^
Bare in mind that most spells require the use of a hand (somatic) unless you have the War Caster feat.
DM: Are you sure?
Wizard: Yes. I cast the Wish spell and I wish that everybody loves me!
DM: You transform into an irresistible, magnificent feast. It was so great, all who participated in devouring you tell of the joy they felt with tears in their eyes and all who hear the tale only feel sorrow that they weren't there to eat.
That correct. Though I think I'm grabbing that at 4th lvl. I'm starting at 3rd so I might snatch up war caster next lvl. ^^
You can also use the improved pact weapon invocation to use your pact weapon as a spellcasting focus. Which will help a little (at least for spells with a material component).
That's true! That leaves room for a different feat! I totally forgot about the improved pact weapon! Thanks man! ^^
Its not the need of a focus that is the reason you will need War Caster. Its the somatic component, the wiggly finger hand movements, that are not allowed while carrying a second weapon or shield normally. I am considering taking 2 levels of fighter after 3rd level of Hexblade. But he's going to be a variant human with War Caster.
It can help with somatic component so long as the spell has a material component as well. The somatic component can be performed with the same hand that is holding a material component or focus needed for the spell.
Though this does not include eldritch blast, so probably a good idea to get war caster anyway.
I've got a HB Warlock with a magic weapon sword she normally uses, and has done the 1 hour "Pact" with it, for obvious Thirsting Blade reasons.
My question - if she gets improved Pact Weapon invocation, she can conjure a longbow. But, in order for it to be her pact weapon (because TB, Eldritch Smite, Hex, etc...) I assume I have to do a 1-hour "un-pacting" on the sword, before I can conjure a bow. The Pact status of the bow is immediate - but I'd have to do the 1-hour ritual on the sword again when she's done with the bow. I know that in a pinch, I can use the bow without it being a Pact Weapon, but I won't get full advantage.
This is a special sword - a literal gift from her Patron (it's not sentient, or anything) so it's not just "conjure a regular sword, or something...
Why not just keep the sword as a non-pact weapon? If your campaign/DM allows it, have it enchanted. That way, you can keep your pact weapon versatile on its own.
DM: Are you sure?
Wizard: Yes. I cast the Wish spell and I wish that everybody loves me!
DM: You transform into an irresistible, magnificent feast. It was so great, all who participated in devouring you tell of the joy they felt with tears in their eyes and all who hear the tale only feel sorrow that they weren't there to eat.
Well, for RP and mechanics reasons... She's currently level 10, and that sword has gotten her through some tough times. It's the go-to for damage, and having Thirsting Blade, Eldritch Smite, Hex or HB Curse added on has led to some serious damage dealing with it. I think she hit 120 damage in one round (with Armor of Agathys and Hellish Rebuke thrown in...) and her second swing with the blade was a miss.
He AC is low for stealth reasons, and she doesn't have Warcaster, so I was thinking Improved Pact Weapon for spellcasting focus AND longbow ranged attack opportunities. I know, I know... Warcaster / Resilient CON is much more than that, but I'm also focused on ASIs over feats.
I don't have a huge problem with having to spend an hour changing which weapon is the Pact Weapon, but I just wanted to understand that was the RAW. My DM may not enforce that, but I don't want to assume anything.
You can actually have one weapon as your (improved or not) PACT WEAPON and have a second weapon as your HEXBLADE WEAPON.
See https://www.sageadvice.eu/2017/11/16/hex-warrior-can-you-have-both-a-bonded-regular-weapon-and-a-pact-weapon-gaining-the-cha-bonus-benefit-at-the-same-time/
Thirsting Blade AND Eldritch Smite AND Lifedrinker ONLY works with the Pact Weapon, so signifying one as a Pact Weapon and the other (or, both/all) as a Hex Weapon does not help me.
Thanks, though.
Ah, gotcha. I didn't realize you wanted more than the +CHA for both weapons. I think that would require some homebrewing - perhaps you can pitch a new invocation to allow a second pact weapon (restricted to only use one per round) to the DM.
Gotcha...
I don't know if this will help w/ your AC. If your DEX mod. is higher than +2, you may want to go w/ Armor of Shadows (unless there're RP/utility reasons that are a higher priority).
DM: Are you sure?
Wizard: Yes. I cast the Wish spell and I wish that everybody loves me!
DM: You transform into an irresistible, magnificent feast. It was so great, all who participated in devouring you tell of the joy they felt with tears in their eyes and all who hear the tale only feel sorrow that they weren't there to eat.
Yes, by RAW, she would first need to spend 1 hour doing the ritual to "un-pact" her pact weapon sword:
From that point on, she could immediately conjure whatever weapon she wanted as her summoned pact weapon:
To use her magic sword as her pact weapon again, she'd need to spend another hour on the ritual to make it the pact weapon:
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You can sheath or unsheath a weapon once as a free action in your turn. So if your weapons are out, you can put one away and cast your spell with the newly free hand. On your next turn, you can ready the weapon again and attack with both.