For the description of this feature, says you can gain hit points from killings creatures with your spells, times two of the level of the spell, or times three if it is a nerco spell. But what if it's a cantrip? Would it be just 2 or 3 hit points then, or nothing? This feature is looking cool, and am thinking on using it in a boss fight where evil necro wizard is purposely killing his own men just to heal himself.
...and spell level is determined by the level of the spell slot you use, not the level of the spell... so you could take a 1st level necromancy spell and cast it with a 3rd level spell slot, killing something and gaining 9 hp back
My favorite use for this, btw, is vampiric touch on all the skeletons I've raised if they've taken too much damage to be worth much in the next fight. Kill them with a concentration spell one by one and gain life from them. Except I just went back and read this and my DM shouldn't have let me do that. Oops. XD Disregard this. It was good in theory.
You know I just re-read that and see it does say 1st level spell or higher. Guess it makes sense to keep the ability from becoming OP. Sorry for not reading the ability clearly, lol
Unfortunately at the end of the ability description it says "You don’t gain this benefit for killing constructs or undead." so sadly killing your own skeletons would not work :( though it would be pretty cool flavor! You at least still get the vampiric heal!
I don't think that works or at least is intended to work as you aren't killing them, the skeleton is. I think its a another level of separation than saying its not me that killed them its the blight spell or whatever. As your spell didn't kill them your spell animated an undead which then eventually killed them. That being said it may fit the RAW.
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For the description of this feature, says you can gain hit points from killings creatures with your spells, times two of the level of the spell, or times three if it is a nerco spell. But what if it's a cantrip? Would it be just 2 or 3 hit points then, or nothing? This feature is looking cool, and am thinking on using it in a boss fight where evil necro wizard is purposely killing his own men just to heal himself.
When a feature says "with a spell of 1st level or higher...", that feature does not include cantrips.
...and spell level is determined by the level of the spell slot you use, not the level of the spell... so you could take a 1st level necromancy spell and cast it with a 3rd level spell slot, killing something and gaining 9 hp back
My favorite use for this, btw, is vampiric touch on all the skeletons I've raised if they've taken too much damage to be worth much in the next fight. Kill them with a concentration spell one by one and gain life from them. Except I just went back and read this and my DM shouldn't have let me do that. Oops. XD Disregard this. It was good in theory.
You only lose if you die. Any time else, there's opportunity for a come back.
You know I just re-read that and see it does say 1st level spell or higher. Guess it makes sense to keep the ability from becoming OP. Sorry for not reading the ability clearly, lol
Unfortunately at the end of the ability description it says "You don’t gain this benefit for killing constructs or undead." so sadly killing your own skeletons would not work :( though it would be pretty cool flavor! You at least still get the vampiric heal!
Necro an old thread :-)
Noting I would not do the following because it would be overpowered but...
You cast a spell to raise the dead, your minions kill something - unless i'm missing something does that not count?
It only specifies not gaining on killing constructs or undead, not the undead doing the killing blow - via the necromantic spell you cast.
I don't think that works or at least is intended to work as you aren't killing them, the skeleton is. I think its a another level of separation than saying its not me that killed them its the blight spell or whatever. As your spell didn't kill them your spell animated an undead which then eventually killed them. That being said it may fit the RAW.