Hi there, I'm not 100% sure this is the best subforum for this question and maybe this has been asked before but I'm a bit lost here.
I have the 2014 and 2024 Player Handbooks, and a bunch of other core rulebooks and campaigns. These have been adding up as subclasses that where ellegible and/or viewable from the Classes pages. Today I was checking and it seems that some subclasses that aren't marked as Legacy in 2014 don't appear in the 2024 version, and I'm not sure if this is normal or not but is at least, confusing.
Let me put an example with Barbarian subclasses that appear in the menu (although I understand this happens with other classes):
As I understand, material marked as Legacy, is "overwritten" by the newer version, that is why Berserker and Zealot appear in both versions (don't understand why Totem Warrior is not appearing in 2024 too though).
So, why are the rest of the Paths not seen in the 2024 edition? If I create a new character through the Builder, even if I don't check neither the "Legacy" or "2014 Core Rules", just by having the "Expanded Rules" (which enables supplementary content), most of the paths that can be seen in the 2014 edition are also available for character creation.
It gets even more confusing as at first glance the partnered content paths doesn't seem to appear in the Character Builder. For example the following ones aren't available (partnered content is checked):
Path of the Carrion Raven
Path of the Juggernaut
Shadow Gnawer
So, which content is compatible and which isn't? Wouldn't it be easier if those paths also appeared in the 2024 version of the Class? That way I don't have to go back and forth between versions to check for it and also would understand why some paths are left apart..
So, why are the rest of the Paths not seen in the 2024 edition? If I create a new character through the Builder, even if I don't check neither the "Legacy" or "2014 Core Rules", just by having the "Expanded Rules" (which enables supplementary content), most of the paths that can be seen in the 2014 edition are also available for character creation.
Expanded Rules refers to books like XGTE, TCOE, MP:MOTM, etc.
2014 Core Rules is pretty self explanatory in its description regarding 2014 PHB, DMG, and MM.
Legacy refers to VGTM, MTOF, and a few other smaller publications.
Partnered Content refers to books using non-Wizards IP. Partnered Content includes both official Wizards publications and third party publications. For example, EGTW is official Wizards publication, but it is not Wizard's IP (it is Critical Role's); TCSR is not official Wizards publication nor their IP (again, Critical Role's IP); because both books do not deal with Wizard's IP, they are classified as Partnered Content.
2014 and 2024 content are compatible with each other, and this is easier to implement on paper. Beyond is a convenient digital tool set, but it has very severe limitations in its system where it cannot even support Epic Boons and Spell Points from 2014. Epic Boons in 2024 was only able to be supported because it went under the umbrella of the Feats system. If you want more nuanced and advanced features, I highly recommend checking out other official toolsets.
Hi there, I'm not 100% sure this is the best subforum for this question and maybe this has been asked before but I'm a bit lost here.
I have the 2014 and 2024 Player Handbooks, and a bunch of other core rulebooks and campaigns. These have been adding up as subclasses that where ellegible and/or viewable from the Classes pages. Today I was checking and it seems that some subclasses that aren't marked as Legacy in 2014 don't appear in the 2024 version, and I'm not sure if this is normal or not but is at least, confusing.
Let me put an example with Barbarian subclasses that appear in the menu (although I understand this happens with other classes):
As I understand, material marked as Legacy, is "overwritten" by the newer version, that is why Berserker and Zealot appear in both versions (don't understand why Totem Warrior is not appearing in 2024 too though).
So, why are the rest of the Paths not seen in the 2024 edition? If I create a new character through the Builder, even if I don't check neither the "Legacy" or "2014 Core Rules", just by having the "Expanded Rules" (which enables supplementary content), most of the paths that can be seen in the 2014 edition are also available for character creation.
It gets even more confusing as at first glance the partnered content paths doesn't seem to appear in the Character Builder. For example the following ones aren't available (partnered content is checked):
Path of the Carrion Raven
Path of the Juggernaut
Shadow Gnawer
So, which content is compatible and which isn't? Wouldn't it be easier if those paths also appeared in the 2024 version of the Class? That way I don't have to go back and forth between versions to check for it and also would understand why some paths are left apart..
What am I missing here? Thanks!
Totem Warrior doesn't appear in the 2024 list because it was renamed "Wild Heart".
Thanks! that bugs and support thread message explains a lot. Let's hope they add support for the Partners content then.
That said, I still think that showing all the subclasses that you have available in the 2024 class version of the web would be great for easy consumption of info.
Please include the compatible non-legacy subclasses on the 2024 class pages. It would be much more convenient to have all the class features available on a single page.
Hi there, I'm not 100% sure this is the best subforum for this question and maybe this has been asked before but I'm a bit lost here.
I have the 2014 and 2024 Player Handbooks, and a bunch of other core rulebooks and campaigns. These have been adding up as subclasses that where ellegible and/or viewable from the Classes pages. Today I was checking and it seems that some subclasses that aren't marked as Legacy in 2014 don't appear in the 2024 version, and I'm not sure if this is normal or not but is at least, confusing.
Let me put an example with Barbarian subclasses that appear in the menu (although I understand this happens with other classes):
As I understand, material marked as Legacy, is "overwritten" by the newer version, that is why Berserker and Zealot appear in both versions (don't understand why Totem Warrior is not appearing in 2024 too though).
So, why are the rest of the Paths not seen in the 2024 edition? If I create a new character through the Builder, even if I don't check neither the "Legacy" or "2014 Core Rules", just by having the "Expanded Rules" (which enables supplementary content), most of the paths that can be seen in the 2014 edition are also available for character creation.
It gets even more confusing as at first glance the partnered content paths doesn't seem to appear in the Character Builder. For example the following ones aren't available (partnered content is checked):
So, which content is compatible and which isn't? Wouldn't it be easier if those paths also appeared in the 2024 version of the Class?
That way I don't have to go back and forth between versions to check for it and also would understand why some paths are left apart..
What am I missing here? Thanks!
Path of the Totem Warrior has been updated to Path of the Wild Heart.
Third party IPs are not supported for the 2024 classes. There is no ETA when they will support it. I assume it is a licensing issue.
You can read the bugs and support thread for more info:
https://www.dndbeyond.com/forums/d-d-beyond-general/bugs-support/204813-players-handbook-issues-and-support-thread
Expanded Rules refers to books like XGTE, TCOE, MP:MOTM, etc.
2014 Core Rules is pretty self explanatory in its description regarding 2014 PHB, DMG, and MM.
Legacy refers to VGTM, MTOF, and a few other smaller publications.
Partnered Content refers to books using non-Wizards IP. Partnered Content includes both official Wizards publications and third party publications. For example, EGTW is official Wizards publication, but it is not Wizard's IP (it is Critical Role's); TCSR is not official Wizards publication nor their IP (again, Critical Role's IP); because both books do not deal with Wizard's IP, they are classified as Partnered Content.
2014 and 2024 content are compatible with each other, and this is easier to implement on paper. Beyond is a convenient digital tool set, but it has very severe limitations in its system where it cannot even support Epic Boons and Spell Points from 2014. Epic Boons in 2024 was only able to be supported because it went under the umbrella of the Feats system. If you want more nuanced and advanced features, I highly recommend checking out other official toolsets.
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Totem Warrior doesn't appear in the 2024 list because it was renamed "Wild Heart".
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Thanks! that bugs and support thread message explains a lot. Let's hope they add support for the Partners content then.
That said, I still think that showing all the subclasses that you have available in the 2024 class version of the web would be great for easy consumption of info.
Please include the compatible non-legacy subclasses on the 2024 class pages. It would be much more convenient to have all the class features available on a single page.