I'm currently converting my old characters into the new rules. I encountered the issue that the alert feat and also aura of the sentinel (Paladin - Oath of the Watchers - TCoE) are both working on their own, but when combined they do not add up. Based on the wording they should not exlude each other and I also have not found something contradictory so I assume its a bug and report it here.
I'm currently converting my old characters into the new rules. I encountered the issue that the alert feat and also aura of the sentinel (Paladin - Oath of the Watchers - TCoE) are both working on their own, but when combined they do not add up. Based on the wording they should not exlude each other and I also have not found something contradictory so I assume its a bug and report it here.
I think this is intentional - there is a general rule in the 2024 PHB that states:
Your Proficiency Bonus can’t be added to a die roll or another number more than once.
Which would seem to apply here as both features add your proficiency bonus to Initiative rolls, but neither says anything about overriding that rule.
That a good point. I have read it in a way that the source for the extra initiative is the aura itself, which is just based on the proficancy bonus.
Aura: You emit an aura of alertness while you aren’t incapacitated. When you and any creatures of your choice within 10 feet of you roll initiative, you all gain a bonus to initiative equal to your proficiency bonus.
Alert feat: When you roll Initiative, you can add your Proficiency Bonus to the roll.
So the difference is "add your proficancy bonus" and "Add a number equal to the proficancy bonus". In my opnion the wording should be different, but if its intended I now know. Thanks :)
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I'm currently converting my old characters into the new rules. I encountered the issue that the alert feat and also aura of the sentinel (Paladin - Oath of the Watchers - TCoE) are both working on their own, but when combined they do not add up.
Based on the wording they should not exlude each other and I also have not found something contradictory so I assume its a bug and report it here.
I think this is intentional - there is a general rule in the 2024 PHB that states:
Your Proficiency Bonus can’t be added to a die roll or another number more than once.
Which would seem to apply here as both features add your proficiency bonus to Initiative rolls, but neither says anything about overriding that rule.
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That a good point.
I have read it in a way that the source for the extra initiative is the aura itself, which is just based on the proficancy bonus.
Aura:
You emit an aura of alertness while you aren’t incapacitated. When you and any creatures of your choice within 10 feet of you roll initiative, you all gain a bonus to initiative equal to your proficiency bonus.
Alert feat:
When you roll Initiative, you can add your Proficiency Bonus to the roll.
So the difference is "add your proficancy bonus" and "Add a number equal to the proficancy bonus". In my opnion the wording should be different, but if its intended I now know.
Thanks :)