There is nothing that says that a Chronurgy can not prepare Graviturgy Spells and vice versa, so they should have them. But they do not and that is not right. Plz fix this quickly!
Wrong. The book shows the full list of Dunamancy spells. While some are untagged, some are tagged specifically as Chronurgy or Graviturgy spells. Only the untagged spells apply to both.
Wrong. The book shows the full list of Dunamancy spells. While some are untagged, some are tagged specifically as Chronurgy or Graviturgy spells. Only the untagged spells apply to both.
RAW, it does not specifically say the tags mean that that spell are exclusive to that subclass, it just says which spells are associated with the subclass.
Wrong. The book shows the full list of Dunamancy spells. While some are untagged, some are tagged specifically as Chronurgy or Graviturgy spells. Only the untagged spells apply to both.
RAW, it does not specifically say the tags mean that that spell are exclusive to that subclass, it just says which spells are associated with the subclass.
"These spells are available to the wizard subclasses previously mentioned in this chapter" does not mean both subclasses automatically have access to them when some of them are specifically tagged as being for one or the other. Slightly better wording could have been used to avoid munchkins trying to take every spell in the list, but the rules and intent align here.
Wrong. The book shows the full list of Dunamancy spells. While some are untagged, some are tagged specifically as Chronurgy or Graviturgy spells. Only the untagged spells apply to both.
RAW, it does not specifically say the tags mean that that spell are exclusive to that subclass, it just says which spells are associated with the subclass.
"These spells are available to the wizard subclasses previously mentioned in this chapter" does not mean both subclasses automatically have access to them when some of them are specifically tagged as being for one or the other. Slightly better wording could have been used to avoid munchkins trying to take every spell in the list, but the rules and intent align here.
Yeah. It looks like both subclasses should have access to both as it's worded. Tags are just part of the DDB system anyway. There is no such concept in the books. There are asterisks to indicate which spells are which, but nothing that seems to limit access to one subclass or the other.
"These spells are available to the wizard subclasses previously mentioned in this chapter" does not mean both subclasses automatically have access to them when some of them are specifically tagged as being for one or the other. Slightly better wording could have been used to avoid munchkins trying to take every spell in the list, but the rules and intent align here.
Yeah. It looks like both subclasses should have access to both as it's worded. Tags are just part of the DDB system anyway. There is no such concept in the books. There are asterisks to indicate which spells are which, but nothing that seems to limit access to one subclass or the other.
If the spells are not restricted to the subclasses that they are marked as belonging to, why is there an indication of which subclass they belong to? There are spells for both, spells for chronurgy, and spells for gravity.
"These spells are available to the wizard subclasses previously mentioned in this chapter" does not mean both subclasses automatically have access to them when some of them are specifically tagged as being for one or the other. Slightly better wording could have been used to avoid munchkins trying to take every spell in the list, but the rules and intent align here.
Yeah. It looks like both subclasses should have access to both as it's worded. Tags are just part of the DDB system anyway. There is no such concept in the books. There are asterisks to indicate which spells are which, but nothing that seems to limit access to one subclass or the other.
If the spells are not restricted to the subclasses that they are marked as belonging to, why is there an indication of which subclass they belong to? There are spells for both, spells for chronurgy, and spells for gravity.
As Hikoolani says, they are simply tags. IDK why they were included in the first place, but there is no restriction on taking spells from the other subclass
I think it's worth pointing out that these are not just tags that appear in the D&D Beyond compendium. All the Dunamancy spells are identified in the book as belonging to Chronurgy, Graviturgy, or neither, by attaching one, two, or zero asterisks to them respectively. This is not just an artifact of how they've been categorized in D&D Beyond; it's part of the text of the book.
Yeah, this is something explicitly called out in the rules text of the book:
Spells with * are chronorugy spells (only available to that subclass), spells with ** are gravitury spells (only available to that subclass) and spells with no asterisk are available to both. These are not tags in the sense of a DDB construction.
Again, these spells are already working as intended. They won't be changed. If you want to change it yourself, you can make a homebrew copy of the spell and adjust its "Available For" field, or you can add them to an Additional Spell List in a homebrew background, species, or subclass.
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Yeah, this is something explicitly called out in the rules text of the book:
Spells with * are chronorugy spells (only available to that subclass), spells with ** are gravitury spells (only available to that subclass) and spells with no asterisk are available to both. These are not tags in the sense of a DDB construction.
Uh where does the book say that the spells are subclass exclusive? That is what is the issue is here. While it labels them as spells themed for that subclass, it does not say they are EXCLUSIVE.
Blame the Critical Role team, they've never been good at clarity.
It doesn't say that spells specified as Chronurgy or Graviturgy are available to the other subclass either, that blade cuts both ways. As a result, the intent is what is used, and it's working as intended.
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There is nothing that says that a Chronurgy can not prepare Graviturgy Spells and vice versa, so they should have them. But they do not and that is not right. Plz fix this quickly!
https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/egtw/character-options-subclasses#DunamancySpells
Wrong. The book shows the full list of Dunamancy spells. While some are untagged, some are tagged specifically as Chronurgy or Graviturgy spells. Only the untagged spells apply to both.
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RAW, it does not specifically say the tags mean that that spell are exclusive to that subclass, it just says which spells are associated with the subclass.
"These spells are available to the wizard subclasses previously mentioned in this chapter" does not mean both subclasses automatically have access to them when some of them are specifically tagged as being for one or the other. Slightly better wording could have been used to avoid munchkins trying to take every spell in the list, but the rules and intent align here.
Yeah. It looks like both subclasses should have access to both as it's worded. Tags are just part of the DDB system anyway. There is no such concept in the books. There are asterisks to indicate which spells are which, but nothing that seems to limit access to one subclass or the other.
If the spells are not restricted to the subclasses that they are marked as belonging to, why is there an indication of which subclass they belong to? There are spells for both, spells for chronurgy, and spells for gravity.
As Hikoolani says, they are simply tags. IDK why they were included in the first place, but there is no restriction on taking spells from the other subclass
I think it's worth pointing out that these are not just tags that appear in the D&D Beyond compendium. All the Dunamancy spells are identified in the book as belonging to Chronurgy, Graviturgy, or neither, by attaching one, two, or zero asterisks to them respectively. This is not just an artifact of how they've been categorized in D&D Beyond; it's part of the text of the book.
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Yeah, this is something explicitly called out in the rules text of the book:
Spells with * are chronorugy spells (only available to that subclass), spells with ** are gravitury spells (only available to that subclass) and spells with no asterisk are available to both. These are not tags in the sense of a DDB construction.
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ModeratorAgain, these spells are already working as intended. They won't be changed. If you want to change it yourself, you can make a homebrew copy of the spell and adjust its "Available For" field, or you can add them to an Additional Spell List in a homebrew background, species, or subclass.
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Uh where does the book say that the spells are subclass exclusive? That is what is the issue is here. While it labels them as spells themed for that subclass, it does not say they are EXCLUSIVE.
Blame the Critical Role team, they've never been good at clarity.
It doesn't say that spells specified as Chronurgy or Graviturgy are available to the other subclass either, that blade cuts both ways. As a result, the intent is what is used, and it's working as intended.