Your practice of martial arts gives you mastery of combat styles that use your Unarmed Strike and Monk weapons, which are the following:
Simple Melee weapons
Martial Melee weapons that have the Light property
You gain the following benefits while you are unarmed or wielding only Monk weapons and you aren’t wearing armor or wielding a Shield.
A Monk using a Scimitar meets the requirements for the Martial Arts class feature. However on my character sheet, although it acknowledges the Martial Arts underneath the Action, it only applies my ability modifier but not my proficiency modifier on my attack roll.
The quote above is from the 5.5e Monk, but are you perhaps using the 5e Monk on your sheet? A 5e Monk (correctly) wouldn’t have proficiency with scimitars.
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So, Scimitars do count as a Monk weapon in the 2024 rules and that part is working fine.
The reason you are not proficient with scimitars is that your first class was Bard, and the Bard class doesn't grant proficiency with scimitars (only with simple weapons). Multiclassing into another class doesn't necessarily give you the same proficiencies as you would get when starting with that class. If you look at the description of the Monk class, under the section "Becoming a Monk..." you'll see that you do not gain any additional weapon proficiencies by multiclassing into the Monk class.
So, Scimitars do count as a Monk weapon in the 2024 rules and that part is working fine.
The reason you are not proficient with scimitars is that your first class was Bard, and the Bard class doesn't grant proficiency with scimitars (only with simple weapons). Multiclassing into another class doesn't necessarily give you the same proficiencies as you would get when starting with that class. If you look at the description of the Monk class, under the section "Becoming a Monk..." you'll see that you do not gain any additional weapon proficiencies by multiclassing into the Monk class.
So I have monk weapon mastery for the scimitar without proficiency?
So, Scimitars do count as a Monk weapon in the 2024 rules and that part is working fine.
The reason you are not proficient with scimitars is that your first class was Bard, and the Bard class doesn't grant proficiency with scimitars (only with simple weapons). Multiclassing into another class doesn't necessarily give you the same proficiencies as you would get when starting with that class. If you look at the description of the Monk class, under the section "Becoming a Monk..." you'll see that you do not gain any additional weapon proficiencies by multiclassing into the Monk class.
So I have monk weapon mastery for the scimitar without proficiency?
The concept of "Monk Weapons" is totally separate from weapon proficiency. Scimitars count as Monk Weapons (and will use the Martial Arts damage die) whether you're proficient with them or not.
Both of these things are also totally separate from "weapon mastery", which is a feature that Monks do not have.
So, Scimitars do count as a Monk weapon in the 2024 rules and that part is working fine.
The reason you are not proficient with scimitars is that your first class was Bard, and the Bard class doesn't grant proficiency with scimitars (only with simple weapons). Multiclassing into another class doesn't necessarily give you the same proficiencies as you would get when starting with that class. If you look at the description of the Monk class, under the section "Becoming a Monk..." you'll see that you do not gain any additional weapon proficiencies by multiclassing into the Monk class.
So I have monk weapon mastery for the scimitar without proficiency?
The concept of "Monk Weapons" is totally separate from weapon proficiency. Scimitars count as Monk Weapons (and will use the Martial Arts damage die) whether you're proficient with them or not.
Both of these things are also totally separate from "weapon mastery", which is a feature that Monks do not have.
Then I'm not sure I understand what the Martial Arts part that says you have combat mastery of monk weapons means when it specifies exactly what the core Weapon Proficiency is for the class.
Why does it exist if not for folks multi-classing into Monk? *edit* Okay I think I see what you're saying. So then I think there needs to be an update to dndbeyond because it lists Scimitar specifically as a weapon proficiency in the left column of the character sheet.
So, Scimitars do count as a Monk weapon in the 2024 rules and that part is working fine.
The reason you are not proficient with scimitars is that your first class was Bard, and the Bard class doesn't grant proficiency with scimitars (only with simple weapons). Multiclassing into another class doesn't necessarily give you the same proficiencies as you would get when starting with that class. If you look at the description of the Monk class, under the section "Becoming a Monk..." you'll see that you do not gain any additional weapon proficiencies by multiclassing into the Monk class.
So I have monk weapon mastery for the scimitar without proficiency?
The concept of "Monk Weapons" is totally separate from weapon proficiency. Scimitars count as Monk Weapons (and will use the Martial Arts damage die) whether you're proficient with them or not.
Both of these things are also totally separate from "weapon mastery", which is a feature that Monks do not have.
Then I'm not sure I understand what the Martial Arts part that says you have combat mastery of monk weapons means when it specifies exactly what the core Weapon Proficiency is for the class.
Why does it exist if not for folks multi-classing into Monk?
To be clear, the Martial Arts feature does not say that it grants proficiency in any weapons. "Proficiency" is a technical term in the D&D rules referring to a specific concept; when the rules refer to that concept, they always use the specific word "proficiency". Phrases like "mastery of combat styles" that might, in general language, sound synonymous with "proficiency" do not mean the same thing in D&D rules.
The set of weapons that count as Monk Weapons is in fact not exactly the same as the weapon proficiencies granted by the Monk class. The former includes simple melee weapons and martial weapons that have the Light property, while the latter includes all simple weapons and all Martial weapons with the Light property — the difference being ranged weapons are excluded from the former.
I can't speak to why it was designed that way, as I didn't write it, but it is nearly universal that multiclassing into a class does not provide all of (or, in some cases, any of) the proficiencies granted by starting in that class.
So, Scimitars do count as a Monk weapon in the 2024 rules and that part is working fine.
The reason you are not proficient with scimitars is that your first class was Bard, and the Bard class doesn't grant proficiency with scimitars (only with simple weapons). Multiclassing into another class doesn't necessarily give you the same proficiencies as you would get when starting with that class. If you look at the description of the Monk class, under the section "Becoming a Monk..." you'll see that you do not gain any additional weapon proficiencies by multiclassing into the Monk class.
So I have monk weapon mastery for the scimitar without proficiency?
The concept of "Monk Weapons" is totally separate from weapon proficiency. Scimitars count as Monk Weapons (and will use the Martial Arts damage die) whether you're proficient with them or not.
Both of these things are also totally separate from "weapon mastery", which is a feature that Monks do not have.
Then I'm not sure I understand what the Martial Arts part that says you have combat mastery of monk weapons means when it specifies exactly what the core Weapon Proficiency is for the class.
Why does it exist if not for folks multi-classing into Monk?
To be clear, the Martial Arts feature does not say that it grants proficiency in any weapons. "Proficiency" is a technical term in the D&D rules referring to a specific concept; when the rules refer to that concept, they always use the specific word "proficiency". Phrases like "mastery of combat styles" that might, in general language, sound synonymous with "proficiency" do not mean the same thing in D&D rules.
The set of weapons that count as Monk Weapons is in fact not exactly the same as the weapon proficiencies granted by the Monk class. The former includes simple melee weapons and martial weapons that have the Light property, while the latter includes all simple weapons and all Martial weapons with the Light property — the difference being ranged weapons are excluded from the former.
I can't speak to why it was designed that way, as I didn't write it, but it is nearly universal that multiclassing into a class does not provide all of (or, in some cases, any of) the proficiencies granted by starting in that class.
Yeah I think I get it now. I think I was misled by the dndbeyond character sheet listing Scimitar specifically as a Weapon Proficiency.
Level 1: Martial Arts
Your practice of martial arts gives you mastery of combat styles that use your Unarmed Strike and Monk weapons, which are the following:
You gain the following benefits while you are unarmed or wielding only Monk weapons and you aren’t wearing armor or wielding a Shield.
A Monk using a Scimitar meets the requirements for the Martial Arts class feature. However on my character sheet, although it acknowledges the Martial Arts underneath the Action, it only applies my ability modifier but not my proficiency modifier on my attack roll.
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ModeratorThe quote above is from the 5.5e Monk, but are you perhaps using the 5e Monk on your sheet? A 5e Monk (correctly) wouldn’t have proficiency with scimitars.
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I believe it is the 2024/5.5e version.
Character sheet: https://www.dndbeyond.com/characters/148057444
So, Scimitars do count as a Monk weapon in the 2024 rules and that part is working fine.
The reason you are not proficient with scimitars is that your first class was Bard, and the Bard class doesn't grant proficiency with scimitars (only with simple weapons). Multiclassing into another class doesn't necessarily give you the same proficiencies as you would get when starting with that class. If you look at the description of the Monk class, under the section "Becoming a Monk..." you'll see that you do not gain any additional weapon proficiencies by multiclassing into the Monk class.
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So I have monk weapon mastery for the scimitar without proficiency?
The concept of "Monk Weapons" is totally separate from weapon proficiency. Scimitars count as Monk Weapons (and will use the Martial Arts damage die) whether you're proficient with them or not.
Both of these things are also totally separate from "weapon mastery", which is a feature that Monks do not have.
pronouns: he/she/they
Then I'm not sure I understand what the Martial Arts part that says you have combat mastery of monk weapons means when it specifies exactly what the core Weapon Proficiency is for the class.
Why does it exist if not for folks multi-classing into Monk? *edit* Okay I think I see what you're saying. So then I think there needs to be an update to dndbeyond because it lists Scimitar specifically as a weapon proficiency in the left column of the character sheet.
To be clear, the Martial Arts feature does not say that it grants proficiency in any weapons. "Proficiency" is a technical term in the D&D rules referring to a specific concept; when the rules refer to that concept, they always use the specific word "proficiency". Phrases like "mastery of combat styles" that might, in general language, sound synonymous with "proficiency" do not mean the same thing in D&D rules.
The set of weapons that count as Monk Weapons is in fact not exactly the same as the weapon proficiencies granted by the Monk class. The former includes simple melee weapons and martial weapons that have the Light property, while the latter includes all simple weapons and all Martial weapons with the Light property — the difference being ranged weapons are excluded from the former.
I can't speak to why it was designed that way, as I didn't write it, but it is nearly universal that multiclassing into a class does not provide all of (or, in some cases, any of) the proficiencies granted by starting in that class.
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Yeah I think I get it now. I think I was misled by the dndbeyond character sheet listing Scimitar specifically as a Weapon Proficiency.
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ModeratorThat part's a known bug that happens when multiclassing into monk.
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I did not notice that before, that is wild that that's a thing that can happen. I don't blame you at all for being confused by it.
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