Hi, I would pay more for unlimited access to all materials produced on D&D beyond. I love D&D. I have purchased all of the 5E materials in hard cover and I have purchased the Ultimate Bundle on D&D beyond. Please consider unlimited access level for all releases at a (reasonable $10 per month) higher monthly price. I'm in, let me know when you do it. I would do it even though I currently own hardcover and digital.
(i.e. Spotify with Hulu add on = $15 per month and they have an unlimited value whereas D&D beyond is a tiny niche of monthly services available. Upgrade your servers and bandwidth. Love it.) You sport the (Wizards) D&D logo so the argument of copy-write is just a loophole. Step it up a bit and I will never leave. Just don't get complacent.......please. So, good............. I have seen D&D change lives for the good in ways I wouldn't have even imagined.
Unfortunately, paizo also sports the D&D logo on many things, yet they still don't own anything fromt he company that hired them, because thats just it... "hired" they still can't overshot the wizard of the coast stuff. it doesn't belong to them, sporting the logo isn't the same as owning the thing.
as for paying 10$ a month to get full access... it would require you to pay about 40$ a month to full access... why ? because they still have to pay wizard of the coast as well as their servers and their liscences... you act as if beyond had full blown rights to the books and could decide the price and that wizard had no say in it. but unfortunately, out of all the money they do with the books they sell here, what you pay here is really just the service. every book you paid here goes not just to beyond, but to wotc as well. how would they divide the monthly fee for them to be satisfyed ? would they keep 10$ and the remaining 30$ would go to wizard for their books ? how would wizard actually make money out of said books, it would literally render them useless in making books. at that point it wouldn't be a selling point.
what you are asking cannot be done because beyond do not own the books, they do not own the content. they are merely exposing it to the public using their engine. what you are asking is for wizard of the coast to stop selling books and start selling a service instead ! you are asking them to change their whole foundation to something else.
it won't happen !
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Hi, I would pay more for unlimited access to all materials produced on D&D beyond. I love D&D. I have purchased all of the 5E materials in hard cover and I have purchased the Ultimate Bundle on D&D beyond. Please consider unlimited access level for all releases at a (reasonable $10 per month) higher monthly price. I'm in, let me know when you do it. I would do it even though I currently own hardcover and digital.
(i.e. Spotify with Hulu add on = $15 per month and they have an unlimited value whereas D&D beyond is a tiny niche of monthly services available. Upgrade your servers and bandwidth. Love it.) You sport the (Wizards) D&D logo so the argument of copy-write is just a loophole. Step it up a bit and I will never leave. Just don't get complacent.......please. So, good............. I have seen D&D change lives for the good in ways I wouldn't have even imagined.
You can! You just have to make all your monthly payments in one convenient lump sum.
What would prevent you from subscribing for a month and building a couple dozen characters then canceling? You get access to everything for $10 then disappear until you need a another character. The subscription services you list as comps aren’t at all comparable. Spotify and Hulu require the subscription for you to consume their content. Once you cancel you can’t use the content again. With D&D Beyond you can copy/print off the characters and a vast majority of the game’s rules are free through SRD. If Spotify and Hulu let you download songs and shows their pricing model would be different for sure.
Take your $10 / month and buy the content you need. It won’t be long before you have what you need and are spending that $10 on content you may want in the future. After a couple of years you will own everything the site has to offer and can hold off on paying the $10 until a new book is released.
You can! You just have to make all your monthly payments in one convenient lump sum.
I did pay in a lump sum. I don't have access to new releases
What would prevent you from subscribing for a month and building a couple dozen characters then canceling? You get access to everything for $10 then disappear until you need a another character. The subscription services you list as comps aren’t at all comparable. Spotify and Hulu require the subscription for you to consume their content. Once you cancel you can’t use the content again. (Exactly my point, I take the risk. If I don't pay then my account is deleted.) With D&D Beyond you can copy/print off the characters and a vast majority of the game’s rules are free through SRD. If Spotify and Hulu let you download songs and shows their pricing model would be different for sure.
Take your $10 / month and buy the content you need. ( I own both hard cover and digital. I want both, I run 3 games and having new releases for a fee would be ideal. Pathfinder does it and its brilliant. Hard copy comes in the mail and digital access is granted.) It won’t be long before you have what you need and are spending that $10 on content you may want in the future. After a couple of years you will own everything the site has to offer and can hold off on paying the $10 until a new book is released. (Sorry, this part is a bit confusing?)
If your account is deleted you can still use all the characters you copied. If you cancel Spotify you can't listen to your playlists anymore. Not the same.
As for pricing, I'll try to break it down. New adventures come out every 6 months or so. Sometimes there is a companion sourcecebook. Things tend to cost right around $30 here. That means if they release an adventure and companion sourcebook it would cost about $60. They will do that at most twice a year for a total of $120, the same price you'd pay for 12 months of a subscription at $10 per month. If they only release an adventure then you actually save $30 over the subscription during that 6 month period.
Paying for 5e adventures alone should cost about $60 per year. $120 if you buy the physical copy too from Amazon. Last I checked the Pathfinder AP subscription cost over $20 / month after shipping. That's twice as much! For the price you pay for the Pathfinder subscription you could buy all the 5e books released each year both physical and digital and probably have money left over.
That's before we even start talking about digital tools. Pathfinder doesn't have an official character builder, encounter builder, or homebrew library. You can pay for a 3rd party character builder or use a publically developed free one that lags way behind sourcebook releases. D&D Beyond's character buider, encounter builder, and homebrew library has access to content as soon as it's relased.
I feel like that person doesnt understand how companies works.
There is just no way to accomplish what hes asking yet continue to say others do so they should...
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They're able to do that because the box sets ship as sealed/wrapped products and thus they can secure the code. Books don't ship like that so it's not viable to ensure the codes are pilfered. They did the same thing with the Waterdeep Dragon Heist platinum edition.
@Withraas: Wizards tried the digital subscription approach with 4E, for better or worse. With 5E, they chose not to offer that model. Beyond is not WotC - they are a third party provider who has to pay for the rights to offer the services that they do here. Without a doubt, they are limited in how they can offer that content. For example, digital content via the app, but not as PDFs. It's most likely that they cannot offer a subscription service as you desire and their hands are tied on the matter.
People have to also realise... Wotc is a provider not a merchant. Hence why they dont have an online store on their web pages. Thus they have the product and other companies fight to get it.
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Just throwing it out there, but D&D Beyond has licensing terms agreed upon with WOTC and cannot pick and choose their pricing models at-will. These sorts of changes have to be drafted on paper and signed off upon by numerous individuals and departments.
Thank you for your feedback; Staff regularly review all submitted suggestions.
It's funny how frequent those topics show up. At least once a month I read a similar topic, with folks asking to pay more, or be able to buy a one-time lifetime subscription for DDB.
It demonstrates the great impact DDB is having on gamers lifes, it being so, so helpful and good that folks want to help even more.
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Hi, I would pay more for unlimited access to all materials produced on D&D beyond. I love D&D. I have purchased all of the 5E materials in hard cover and I have purchased the Ultimate Bundle on D&D beyond. Please consider unlimited access level for all releases at a (reasonable $10 per month) higher monthly price. I'm in, let me know when you do it. I would do it even though I currently own hardcover and digital.
(i.e. Spotify with Hulu add on = $15 per month and they have an unlimited value whereas D&D beyond is a tiny niche of monthly services available. Upgrade your servers and bandwidth. Love it.) You sport the (Wizards) D&D logo so the argument of copy-write is just a loophole. Step it up a bit and I will never leave. Just don't get complacent.......please. So, good............. I have seen D&D change lives for the good in ways I wouldn't have even imagined.
Unfortunately, paizo also sports the D&D logo on many things, yet they still don't own anything fromt he company that hired them, because thats just it... "hired" they still can't overshot the wizard of the coast stuff. it doesn't belong to them, sporting the logo isn't the same as owning the thing.
as for paying 10$ a month to get full access... it would require you to pay about 40$ a month to full access... why ? because they still have to pay wizard of the coast as well as their servers and their liscences... you act as if beyond had full blown rights to the books and could decide the price and that wizard had no say in it. but unfortunately, out of all the money they do with the books they sell here, what you pay here is really just the service. every book you paid here goes not just to beyond, but to wotc as well. how would they divide the monthly fee for them to be satisfyed ? would they keep 10$ and the remaining 30$ would go to wizard for their books ? how would wizard actually make money out of said books, it would literally render them useless in making books. at that point it wouldn't be a selling point.
what you are asking cannot be done because beyond do not own the books, they do not own the content. they are merely exposing it to the public using their engine.
what you are asking is for wizard of the coast to stop selling books and start selling a service instead !
you are asking them to change their whole foundation to something else.
it won't happen !
DM of two gaming groups.
Likes to create stuff.
Check out my homebrew --> Monsters --> Magical Items --> Races --> Subclasses
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--> One Shot Adventure - House of Artwood (DM) (Completed)
You can! You just have to make all your monthly payments in one convenient lump sum.
What would prevent you from subscribing for a month and building a couple dozen characters then canceling? You get access to everything for $10 then disappear until you need a another character. The subscription services you list as comps aren’t at all comparable. Spotify and Hulu require the subscription for you to consume their content. Once you cancel you can’t use the content again. With D&D Beyond you can copy/print off the characters and a vast majority of the game’s rules are free through SRD. If Spotify and Hulu let you download songs and shows their pricing model would be different for sure.
Take your $10 / month and buy the content you need. It won’t be long before you have what you need and are spending that $10 on content you may want in the future. After a couple of years you will own everything the site has to offer and can hold off on paying the $10 until a new book is released.
Are you a representative of D&D Beyond?
You can! You just have to make all your monthly payments in one convenient lump sum.
I did pay in a lump sum. I don't have access to new releases
What would prevent you from subscribing for a month and building a couple dozen characters then canceling? You get access to everything for $10 then disappear until you need a another character. The subscription services you list as comps aren’t at all comparable. Spotify and Hulu require the subscription for you to consume their content. Once you cancel you can’t use the content again. (Exactly my point, I take the risk. If I don't pay then my account is deleted.) With D&D Beyond you can copy/print off the characters and a vast majority of the game’s rules are free through SRD. If Spotify and Hulu let you download songs and shows their pricing model would be different for sure.
Take your $10 / month and buy the content you need. ( I own both hard cover and digital. I want both, I run 3 games and having new releases for a fee would be ideal. Pathfinder does it and its brilliant. Hard copy comes in the mail and digital access is granted.) It won’t be long before you have what you need and are spending that $10 on content you may want in the future. After a couple of years you will own everything the site has to offer and can hold off on paying the $10 until a new book is released. (Sorry, this part is a bit confusing?)
Why would you ask if I work for D&D Beyond?
If your account is deleted you can still use all the characters you copied. If you cancel Spotify you can't listen to your playlists anymore. Not the same.
As for pricing, I'll try to break it down. New adventures come out every 6 months or so. Sometimes there is a companion sourcecebook. Things tend to cost right around $30 here. That means if they release an adventure and companion sourcebook it would cost about $60. They will do that at most twice a year for a total of $120, the same price you'd pay for 12 months of a subscription at $10 per month. If they only release an adventure then you actually save $30 over the subscription during that 6 month period.
Paying for 5e adventures alone should cost about $60 per year. $120 if you buy the physical copy too from Amazon. Last I checked the Pathfinder AP subscription cost over $20 / month after shipping. That's twice as much! For the price you pay for the Pathfinder subscription you could buy all the 5e books released each year both physical and digital and probably have money left over.
That's before we even start talking about digital tools. Pathfinder doesn't have an official character builder, encounter builder, or homebrew library. You can pay for a 3rd party character builder or use a publically developed free one that lags way behind sourcebook releases. D&D Beyond's character buider, encounter builder, and homebrew library has access to content as soon as it's relased.
I feel like that person doesnt understand how companies works.
There is just no way to accomplish what hes asking yet continue to say others do so they should...
DM of two gaming groups.
Likes to create stuff.
Check out my homebrew --> Monsters --> Magical Items --> Races --> Subclasses
If you like --> Upvote, If you wanna comment --> Comment
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--> One Shot Adventure - House of Artwood (DM) (Completed)
I understand DnDPaladin, thanks for the help. My eyes have been opened.
I love that they are including a D&D beyond unlock code for the module in the new starter kit. I hope that’s a sign of things to come.
They're able to do that because the box sets ship as sealed/wrapped products and thus they can secure the code. Books don't ship like that so it's not viable to ensure the codes are pilfered. They did the same thing with the Waterdeep Dragon Heist platinum edition.
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@Withraas: Wizards tried the digital subscription approach with 4E, for better or worse. With 5E, they chose not to offer that model. Beyond is not WotC - they are a third party provider who has to pay for the rights to offer the services that they do here. Without a doubt, they are limited in how they can offer that content. For example, digital content via the app, but not as PDFs. It's most likely that they cannot offer a subscription service as you desire and their hands are tied on the matter.
People have to also realise... Wotc is a provider not a merchant. Hence why they dont have an online store on their web pages. Thus they have the product and other companies fight to get it.
DM of two gaming groups.
Likes to create stuff.
Check out my homebrew --> Monsters --> Magical Items --> Races --> Subclasses
If you like --> Upvote, If you wanna comment --> Comment
Play by Post Games
--> One Shot Adventure - House of Artwood (DM) (Completed)
Just throwing it out there, but D&D Beyond has licensing terms agreed upon with WOTC and cannot pick and choose their pricing models at-will. These sorts of changes have to be drafted on paper and signed off upon by numerous individuals and departments.
Thank you for your feedback; Staff regularly review all submitted suggestions.
It's funny how frequent those topics show up. At least once a month I read a similar topic, with folks asking to pay more, or be able to buy a one-time lifetime subscription for DDB.
It demonstrates the great impact DDB is having on gamers lifes, it being so, so helpful and good that folks want to help even more.