Many have spent literallyweeks insisting that the careers and the wellbeings of independents hired by smaller publishers should have been subject to the whims of self-righteous mobs who believe pointing their fingers at others magically absolves they themselves of whatever the sin may be. Some of us pushed back against how utterly lacking in any room for nuance, impartiality, and empathy that would be. And we won.
But now we are being asked to think of those poor filthy rich executives at Wizards of the Coast?
Talk about hypocrisy.
No some of us are saying that maybe, how the internal process in a company works, is not down to the beating mob. We don’t know who or how this idea got as far as it did without anyone internally calling out the potential, or if someone did and was not heard. Wizards made the change, unless your a share holder then no you don’t get to Insist on your pound of flesh because that is not how companies could ever operate.
The same logic could be afforded to any company that implements policies that are a detriment to the environment. Or to anything, for that matter. Because we don't know who was personally responsible and aren't shareholders ourselves we're supposed to just shrug and move on? Listen to yourself, please.
The main point stands: People asked us to not care about the careers and the wellbeings of others. They were demanding pounds of flesh. From anyone who succumbed to the whims of self-righteous mobs, whether or not it was even deserved.
Now they get to beseech us?
Yes, because we're not morally bankrupt. While it's satisfying making an example out of some C-suite, that's ultimately a pointless witch hunt. Someone will just be "taking the fall" and merrily move along.
And morally, it's disgusting to play judge and jury when you have no idea of what's actually going on aside from a gut feeling and some "he said, she said". It goes against what I value in a law-abiding society. If you want to mess with that, I'll be your enemy even if I'm defending a garbage top level executive.
How does it go against the principles of "a law-abiding society" for a company to let go of those whose decisions cost them plenty of goodwill and, with it, plenty of gold? That's smart business.
Witch-hunts? Are you forgetting that much of the pushback against the OGL was because of a clause that would have encouraged precisely that? I'm sorry but I have no sympathy for those who would seek to destroy others based on hearsay, misrepresentation, or oversimplification. I've spent my whole life having to put up with the sanctimonious and the "divinely-appointed" and I ain't about to give a toss if they are thrown from their towers.
The law was not broken, and, we can’t say that the long term impact will be monumental. Wizards will, I imagine, take the long view and wait to see how things look at year end before firing anyone at a C suite level.
The law was not broken?
I'm sure if you're incompetent at your job and you get dragged into your boss's office, where he has every intention of telling you you're fired, you can just say Incompetence isn't illegal, Sir, and it'll occur to him that's you're right, and you'll not only keep your job you'll get to sit in his chair. Talk about gold-medal gymnastics.
I gotta ask, did you seriously join D&D Beyond today so you can post a response 4 pages into the "WotC execs should get fired" thread? Welcome to the community, I guess. Usually we talk about this game called and Dungeons and Dragons.
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Jander Sunstar is the thinking person's Drizzt, fight me.
I don't understand the people who tell us to shut up and stop asking for someone at Hasbro/WotC to be fire, or who say that isn't our "right".
There is nothing that obligates us to stay silent on this. We are allowed to have an opinion on whether or not someone should be fired, and to express that opinion. We have been asking that Chris Cao and/or Cynthia Williams be held accountable within WotC for the decisions made, because they are the ones either responsible for the making the decision, or are none-the-less responsible for putting the decision into practice.
Chris Cao was hired from Microsoft specifically because of his work on video games and digital platforms. Cynthia Williams was also hired from Microsoft. They almost certainly don't understand the community, and they also almost certainly don't care. They were hired to make profit for shareholders, nothing else. They don't care how they do it, just that it gets done.
I am within my rights to express the opinion that WotC/Hasbro management should hold them accountable, or that they should lose their jobs. Hasbro/WotC doesn't have to listen to me (and obviously won't) and if they were fired, believe me, they are already rich enough that they aren't going to go hungry, and they'll end up with a new job in a matter of months.
Expressing your opinion is fine, but "fire Cynthia nao!!" has been the mantra around here for weeks now. You can't blame people for wanting a break from all the negativity.
I don't understand the people who tell us to shut up and stop asking for someone at Hasbro/WotC to be fire, or who say that isn't our "right".
There is nothing that obligates us to stay silent on this. We are allowed to have an opinion on whether or not someone should be fired, and to express that opinion. We have been asking that Chris Cao and/or Cynthia Williams be held accountable within WotC for the decisions made, because they are the ones either responsible for the making the decision, or are none-the-less responsible for putting the decision into practice.
Chris Cao was hired from Microsoft specifically because of his work on video games and digital platforms. Cynthia Williams was also hired from Microsoft. They almost certainly don't understand the community, and they also almost certainly don't care. They were hired to make profit for shareholders, nothing else. They don't care how they do it, just that it gets done.
I am within my rights to express the opinion that WotC/Hasbro management should hold them accountable, or that they should lose their jobs. Hasbro/WotC doesn't have to listen to me (and obviously won't) and if they were fired, believe me, they are already rich enough that they aren't going to go hungry, and they'll end up with a new job in a matter of months.
Expressing your opinion is fine, but "fire Cynthia nao!!" has been the mantra around here for weeks now. You can't blame people for wanting a break from all the negativity.
And in turn you can't blame people for being mad that some want a change in leadership after two debacles in one year. It's not just players either, it's investors. Some of us are even both.
I gotta ask, did you seriously join D&D Beyond today so you can post a response 4 pages into the "WotC execs should get fired" thread? Welcome to the community, I guess. Usually we talk about this game called and Dungeons and Dragons.
Jander Sunstar is the thinking person's Drizzt, fight me.
Expressing your opinion is fine, but "fire Cynthia nao!!" has been the mantra around here for weeks now. You can't blame people for wanting a break from all the negativity.
And in turn you can't blame people for being mad that some want a change in leadership after two debacles in one year. It's not just players either, it's investors. Some of us are even both.