Finally, after 11 months, maybe people will chill on this "5.5 is a dog-whistle" non-sense given that now it is the official term. I have straight up heard someone call someone else a bigot when the statement said was "This is the good-stuff, like 3.0 to 3.5 this 5E to 5.5 is the prime cuts." All because they used the wrong term.
Now let's just enjoy the game.
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Funny how these old threads some as old as 2019 aren't locked. 5.5 puts a nail in the coffin of doubters who couldn't come to terms that these are the new rules, if any old ones were brought over or revised, then they don't exist.
Funny how these old threads some as old as 2019 aren't locked. 5.5 puts a nail in the coffin of doubters who couldn't come to terms that these are the new rules, if any old ones were brought over or revised, then they don't exist.
This thread is from June 2024, and no one was doubting these are the new rules. And the 5e rules do still exist, which is why DDB is adopting the 5e/5.5 designation system in the first place
Funny how these old threads some as old as 2019 aren't locked. 5.5 puts a nail in the coffin of doubters who couldn't come to terms that these are the new rules, if any old ones were brought over or revised, then they don't exist.
and no one was doubting these are the new rules.
Except they were. And it's in many threads on here, Reditt and Discord.
When WOTC specifically said "It is not 5.5" on a number of interviews, posts, and the rest, the people claiming it was 5.5 were incorrect.
Now that WOTC has decided to bow to public pressure because they couldn't convince people that it wasn't 5.5, crowing about "See I was always right" is just petty.
The real situation is just that WOTC had no idea how to call it without having similar complaints from 3.0-3.5 so they just refused to call it anything. They got the EXACT SAME complaints, possibly worse, despite being a dramatically smaller shift than 3.5 was, so they gave up fighting the wave.
The Community called it 5.5 because it made sense to, and we recognized what it meant, even if the scope of the changes were smaller. '5th Edition Revised 2024' was a mouthful, 5ER2024 was also cumbersome, 5.24 was better, but still could be mistaken for 5.14 the 2014 version, sooooo.... 5.5 was just the clearest.
WoTC changed it, because people kept calling it that. They kept calling it that because it was clear communication. It wasn't being contrarian, it wasn't some secret sabotage or dog-whistle, it was just clear communication within a group who has a bit of a distinct linguistic culture. In a sense, the 'always 5.5' crowd was right in the sense that that was what a lot of people called it from the jump. The Company just tried to get them to call it something else.
Hells smells, one of the players at my current table still calls it 'D&D one" because he isn't on the boards and we started integrating stuff into our game during the playtests and that was its codename. He to this very day will call it 'D&D one' when he is making sure that a spell of his is working the way he thinks it did, because some stuff that was bad got fixed, and he is trying those out now. Like Witchbolt. So i have been kinda playing 5.5/5.24 since before it released.
The fact that people were so venomous about what it was called was the stupid part. If we all knew what it meant, what was the problem what term people used? The brand confusion came from the "It's not a new edition," but then it systemically gets treated like one by the site. You really gotta ask yourself "why am I upset about what people call it" and come up with an answer while the people (Like me) who are bitter because we were Lambasted for daring to use a term that makes sense, were excoriated in the first place.
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He/Him. Loooooooooong time Player. The Dark days of the THAC0 system are behind us.
"Hope is a fire that burns in us all If only an ember, awaiting your call To rise up in triumph should we all unite The spark for change is yours to ignite." Kalandra - The State of the World
Finally, after 11 months, maybe people will chill on this "5.5 is a dog-whistle" non-sense given that now it is the official term.
I have straight up heard someone call someone else a bigot when the statement said was "This is the good-stuff, like 3.0 to 3.5 this 5E to 5.5 is the prime cuts." All because they used the wrong term.
Now let's just enjoy the game.
He/Him. Loooooooooong time Player.
The Dark days of the THAC0 system are behind us.
"Hope is a fire that burns in us all If only an ember, awaiting your call
To rise up in triumph should we all unite
The spark for change is yours to ignite."
Kalandra - The State of the World
Funny how these old threads some as old as 2019 aren't locked. 5.5 puts a nail in the coffin of doubters who couldn't come to terms that these are the new rules, if any old ones were brought over or revised, then they don't exist.
This thread is from June 2024, and no one was doubting these are the new rules. And the 5e rules do still exist, which is why DDB is adopting the 5e/5.5 designation system in the first place
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Except they were. And it's in many threads on here, Reditt and Discord.
There was someone visiting old threads and trying out their necromancy skills on them across the board.
When WOTC specifically said "It is not 5.5" on a number of interviews, posts, and the rest, the people claiming it was 5.5 were incorrect.
Now that WOTC has decided to bow to public pressure because they couldn't convince people that it wasn't 5.5, crowing about "See I was always right" is just petty.
The real situation is just that WOTC had no idea how to call it without having similar complaints from 3.0-3.5 so they just refused to call it anything. They got the EXACT SAME complaints, possibly worse, despite being a dramatically smaller shift than 3.5 was, so they gave up fighting the wave.
The Community called it 5.5 because it made sense to, and we recognized what it meant, even if the scope of the changes were smaller. '5th Edition Revised 2024' was a mouthful, 5ER2024 was also cumbersome, 5.24 was better, but still could be mistaken for 5.14 the 2014 version, sooooo.... 5.5 was just the clearest.
WoTC changed it, because people kept calling it that. They kept calling it that because it was clear communication. It wasn't being contrarian, it wasn't some secret sabotage or dog-whistle, it was just clear communication within a group who has a bit of a distinct linguistic culture. In a sense, the 'always 5.5' crowd was right in the sense that that was what a lot of people called it from the jump. The Company just tried to get them to call it something else.
Hells smells, one of the players at my current table still calls it 'D&D one" because he isn't on the boards and we started integrating stuff into our game during the playtests and that was its codename. He to this very day will call it 'D&D one' when he is making sure that a spell of his is working the way he thinks it did, because some stuff that was bad got fixed, and he is trying those out now. Like Witchbolt.
So i have been kinda playing 5.5/5.24 since before it released.
The fact that people were so venomous about what it was called was the stupid part. If we all knew what it meant, what was the problem what term people used? The brand confusion came from the "It's not a new edition," but then it systemically gets treated like one by the site.
You really gotta ask yourself "why am I upset about what people call it" and come up with an answer while the people (Like me) who are bitter because we were Lambasted for daring to use a term that makes sense, were excoriated in the first place.
He/Him. Loooooooooong time Player.
The Dark days of the THAC0 system are behind us.
"Hope is a fire that burns in us all If only an ember, awaiting your call
To rise up in triumph should we all unite
The spark for change is yours to ignite."
Kalandra - The State of the World
Except it's still clearly not a new edition, and the people who insisted it be treated like one all along are still wrong.